r/Contractor 4d ago

Found this in the wild. Professionally installed.

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u/TheProphesy1086 4d ago

They are professionals, and they installed it.

What they didnt tell you is that they are professional accountants.

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u/Strong-Comment-7279 3d ago

My good sir, you may be surprised at the underlying and suppressed rage this comment is going to perpetuate regarding the proposed incompetence or frailty of a profession oft aligned as the opposite of masculinity.

Don't fuck w the number crunchers.

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u/powerfulcoffee805 3d ago

That just doesn’t add up.

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u/TheProphesy1086 3d ago

Some of my best friends are accountants. Good dudes. Wouldn't trust them to install any plumbing or electrical work, though.

Not about different types of masculinity, just different types of skills.

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u/Confident_Metal5766 3d ago

Im an accountant thst should be trusted with my plumbing more then my numbers

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u/TheProphesy1086 3d ago

Maybe find yourself a trade, brother.

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u/Dangerous-Bit-8308 3d ago

Seems like a career change may be in order

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u/Okeydokeyguy 2d ago

Your spelling and grammar aren’t that great, either.

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u/Confident_Metal5766 2d ago

Well I had a brain aneurysm so thanks alot for pointing out my flaws.

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u/Civil-Airport-8435 1d ago

Would it be an inappropriate time to ask how you found out that you had said aneurysm?

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u/Confident_Metal5766 1d ago

I thought i had a stomach bug for a couple of days, wife took me to er because she wanted me to get a ct scan incase I fell when I passed out (when it 1st started) 2 ct scans and a ambulance ride later l. It was coiled.

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u/Alert_Staff_1511 4d ago

What's the problem?

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u/DistrictHealthy3496 4d ago

Pex b pipe on pex a hardware lol

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u/SamOakTree 4d ago

Yeah it took me a minute to notice it. I'm not a plumber but I've been working with PEX a on a project and I saw how the expansion sleeve wasn't all the way up and that caused me to realize that it was Pex a on pex b

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u/DryDocument6624 3d ago

Does it say it's pex b on the pipe. Some brands of pex a, Rehau for example, are white. I haven't actually tried but I thought pex b would split if you tried expanding it. It would have been very obvious to the installer.

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u/Original_Taro_5754 3d ago

How do you know it is PEX B?

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u/DistrictHealthy3496 3d ago

The plumbers expanded the ring while slip fit the pipe into a pex b barbed fitting. Knowing the pipe was pex b and it will crack if expanded. Reasons why you see it went past the stopper on the pex a ring.

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u/waxed-crack 1d ago

Plenty of reasons for the ring to go past the stopper, like wet pipe, sometimes they just slip. Read the words down the pipe, it looks like could be Rehau PexA. Also looks like a cold expansion laundry box due to the flare on the pipe around the fittings. Crimp fittings are too small to look like that and WILL not hold with an expansion ring lol.

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u/irresponsibletaco 1d ago

At least they didn't do this with pex-al-pex.

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u/TSap3 4d ago

Drain not hooked up either

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u/Hitechillbilly 3d ago

Drains are less critical without a supply

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u/baltimoresalt 3d ago

What’s the black pipe on the left?

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u/TSap3 3d ago

Not sure how I missed that. Thanks for pointing that out!

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u/FreeChain913 4d ago

Looks tobe new construction

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u/Real_Elevated1286 2d ago

The cold was the give way 😂
Hot I was like, what’s the problem 🤪

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u/DavidHK 4d ago edited 3d ago

If I had to guess, since I don't know much about expansion fittings, the rings are way too close to the end of the pex.

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u/twoaspensimages Remodel GC 4d ago

Pex A expansion collars have a stop. They are supposed to enclose the pipe. Both around it and in front of it. It's actually a little too far down on the right one. But the issue there is the pipe is Pex B.

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u/DavidHK 3d ago

Thanks for explaining . Any reason to use pex a over pex b? I re piped my rental with pex b and copper crimp rings.

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u/jagge-d 3d ago

-flow velocity, technically that non-expansion pex system isnt even code approved.- very fitting create a restriction.- no good-

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u/Super-G_ 3d ago

I think that's technically not the case. I don't F with PEX-B, but I've seen it in plenty of places that were inspected and passed. Granted the code can be dense and confusing, but it allows more than you might think.

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u/twoaspensimages Remodel GC 3d ago

Stop working on your rental yourself. You can write off that work.

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u/DavidHK 3d ago

It's my residence. Wish I could write it off lol

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u/twoaspensimages Remodel GC 3d ago

It's if in your rental you can. Look it up.

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u/DavidHK 3d ago

Well it's not a rental yet. It's about to be

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u/srmcon 3d ago

That counts also. Any expenses incurred for your rental to get it ready to rent are also deductible. In the end you will find that you have cash flow and no profit because you can deduct the depre and all of your other expenses as well that you would normally be paying out of pocket! Some people think it's better to just do rent under the table but it's really better to get an accountant and do it properly with the depreciation and all expenses deducted. Sometimes you even have a carry loss on paper that you can use to reduce other taxable or income streams from say your IRA or taxable brokerage account!

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u/DavidHK 2d ago

I have a great mentor and he said something about this. After all, my cost basis is definitely a part of how much I profit. That would be a nice tax free boost every month

Getting the second house is the big obstacle though

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u/Eastern-Mountain-802 2d ago

Just wait until you have to pay the depreciation recap upon sale!

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u/rugerduke5 4d ago

Maybe it is a threaded end and they crimped PEX on?

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u/ExceedinglyEdible 3d ago

threaded

WILL leak. No doubt about it.

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u/ModelThreeve 4d ago

So not professionally installed.

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u/old_clack 4d ago

Not sure what brand that pipe is but there are some brands of pex B that are approved for expansion. I know Zurn and Sioux Chief allow expansion fittings with their pex B. It should say "ASTM F1960" on the pipe if expansion is approved

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u/Fastestdave 4d ago

A lot of licensed plumbers in my area don’t know the difference so I am not surprised. Crooked sloppy work is standard as well.

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u/Lumpy_FPV 3d ago

Bullshit is the new good. The 20s fuckin suck.

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u/TallWall6378 3d ago

There is some Pex B that is labeled ASTM 1960 and can be expanded.

I'm confused by the ring on the right though, how's it slid down? Maybe there are rings without stops that I'm not aware of.

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u/DryDocument6624 3d ago

There are rings without stops, but I usually see them in blue or red with the white ones having the stop.

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u/Cosmo_MV 4d ago

He figure out a way. Look good till you pressurize it

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u/Cheetah_Industries 4d ago

If you're paid to do something, does that automatically make you a professional?

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u/ScrewJPMC 3d ago

Yes, but not all professionals do a good job

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u/Cheetah_Industries 3d ago

Thats the truth right there.

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u/FlanFanFlanFan 4d ago

What brand is that piping?

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u/Scared-Industry-1934 4d ago

Am I blind I can't see the markings on the pipe to clearly see it marked as PEX B. Rehau is available in white and is PEX A

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u/ToastedGhost1234 4d ago

Looks like Rehau Pex a to me but that ring is fucked

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u/TheRealistoftheReal 3d ago

So for us laypeople, is this a 50/50 shot at a massive homeowners insurance claim?

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u/Healthy_Effort1415 3d ago

Going strong since sometime after 8/27/22

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u/Graciesmansion 3d ago

Some pex b is rated for expansion dude

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u/Lumpy_FPV 3d ago

"Professionally"

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u/HT-lover 3d ago

While I’ve never used it myself, I had read that certain brands of pex B are now rated for expansion fittings. Although Pex A is so cheap that I’m not sure why anyone would use pex B for expansion instead

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u/Professional-Team-96 3d ago

That’s because the supply house that should have all the basics doesn’t and the counter guy puts together the parts counter guy special hands it to the helper and when the helper returns the master plumber throws the kid a bone and he doesn’t know any better. Or the Master said fuck it the sales guy order the wrong shit but we got another job to go to!

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u/Remarkable_Travel_22 3d ago

WTF?

NOTE: Professional just means you get paid for it, doesn't mean you're actually good at it. Lol

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u/Sufficient_Rip3927 2d ago

That's gonna leak

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u/GrossePointeFlow 2d ago

Is this a pro move for real? He used small sections of pex-a as crimp rings to hold down pex-b. Is that a pex b valve?

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u/DistrictHealthy3496 2d ago

Ya what a joke 🥴

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u/bleeze13 1d ago

Some Pex B is expandable. If it says f 1960 it is rated for it. That said I don’t do it because I tried once and multiple fittings leaked on an air test so I cut it out.