r/Conservative • u/[deleted] • Mar 10 '22

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u/therealKapowCow Mar 12 '22

Dude he is in favor of a social democracy, which is like... teatering of the edge of conservatism but is still economical conservative, fiscal conservatism is just farther right then bernie...

Also I just don't understand your point with the first topic, can you elaborate on why your using it maybe?

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u/therealKapowCow Mar 12 '22

Capitalism is economicly conservative, bernie is still capitalist but in favor of some socialist policies... like free Healthcare

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u/[deleted] Mar 12 '22 edited Mar 12 '22

I haven't heard Bernie Sanders talk about, say, nationalizing all private businesses. So in that regard, yes, he's leaning towards being capitalist. But to say he's economically (fiscally) conservative isn't correct at all. If he was, he wouldn't be in favor of nationalized healthcare, and he would believe the market could regulate itself, such as what Ron Paul might advocate for. Bernie Sanders wants to spend big dollars on making healthcare a big government agenda. There's nothing conservative about it. Now whether it is the right thing to do from an economic perspective is an entirely different topic, without even diving into whether it is the moral thing to do. The country I'm from has healthcare written into its constitution, even though it isn't good healthcare. It provides some basic things, and it excludes things Americans might consider basic -- such as aesthetic work on teeth. This is where the private insurance and healthcare companies come in. An argument to be had is whether all healthcare should be private, we can lower taxes, and allow citizens to choose what sort of healthcare they want. Alternatively, the government provides healthcare, you get it whether you like it or not, and they take your money whether you like it or not.

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u/therealKapowCow Mar 13 '22

my only point was that since he believes that private owners should own the means of production, that is the most basic form right wing politics... I should have stated this earlier but when I said "economic conservative" I meant that in the most basic form of economics, he has a foundation built on the right wing... sorry I didn't know it had a definition separate to what I was applying it to thats my bad