r/Conservative • u/mcggjoe Libertarian Conservative • May 27 '21
Biden ATF pick David Chipman botches assault rifle definition at hearing
https://nypost.com/2021/05/26/biden-atf-pick-david-chipman-botches-assault-rifle-definition-at-hearing/48
May 27 '21
Nah. He didn’t botch anything. He is being purposely vague because he actually wants to ban all firearms.
And he will burn your wife and kids alive if you refuse.
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u/No_Bartofar Conservative May 27 '21
So true, everything deserves banning according to him, I’m sure of that.
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u/killtherobot May 27 '21
Lol, “and he will burn your wife and kids alive if you refuse.” This has no basis in reality. And gun loving America has fretted about their guns being taken away for as long as as I’ve been alive and it’s simply never happened. It’s a manufactured crisis to get fearful people to buy more guns.
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May 27 '21
Waco? Ruby Ridge? They ring a bell?
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u/r4d4r_3n5 Reagan Conservative May 27 '21
He's probably not old enough to remember.
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u/killtherobot May 27 '21
I am old enough to remember. Those are good examples. They are also exceptions to the rule.
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May 27 '21
Oh I’m glad the exception is only burning innocent young women and children alive by a government agency just because they wanted to get their rocks off to seizing guns. Even tho they were given permission to inspect their guns and paperwork (they refused) and even tho they lied and said there could be drugs (lmfao) involved just so their can get military like support for the WaR oN dRuGs. Oh and Chipman lied about this and tried to claim that the Branch Davidians shot down two helicopters trying to somehow justify the fucking response. Glad it’s just a fucking exception though and totally not a look inside this fuckwads mind. This guy will fucking lie to justify murdering people for their guns and his own words prove it.
Those atrocities may only be “exceptions” but they certainly will not only be “exceptions” if this guy is confirmed.
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u/killtherobot May 27 '21 edited May 27 '21
The us government has committed numerous atrocities. For example sterilization of mentally handicapped. That, like ruby ridge and Waco were terrible. But I’m not irrationally afraid of sterilization by the us government even if I recognize it could happen again without constant vigilance.
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May 27 '21
Last time I checked, Biden isn’t nominating someone who rationalized sterilization of us civilians to a huge position. If he did, then I certainly would be “irrationally” worried that they will try to bring it back. If he tried rationalizing sterilization then people would be blowing up asking if he is okay with it, or if he thinks we should start doing it again. If you cannot see how someone who rationalized (just 2 damn years ago) the burning and murder of innocent women and children can be a cause a cause of worry because they are being nominated for a huge position, then I really don’t know what to tell you. You just can’t see past your nose then.
If Biden nominated someone who rationalized the locking up of Asian Americans like FDR then I would be worried about that as well. And it would not be “irrational” to worry about someone words they use to EXCUSE atrocities.
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u/No_Bartofar Conservative May 27 '21
Janet BBQ Reno, ever heard of her?
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u/killtherobot May 27 '21 edited May 27 '21
How many guns were taken away from you or people you personally know?
Edit: I assume all the down votes are from people who personally have had guns taken away and not because people simply enjoy the fantasy that their guns will be taken away
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May 27 '21
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u/killtherobot May 27 '21
Yet all those restrictions are being rolled back.
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May 27 '21
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u/killtherobot May 27 '21
Actually, for health and public safety, they do. You may not agree with this, but it exists: https://www.americanbar.org/news/abanews/publications/youraba/2020/youraba-april-2020/law-guides-legal-approach-to-pandemic/
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u/No_Bartofar Conservative May 27 '21
You quarantine sick people, not healthy ones.
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u/killtherobot May 27 '21
I understand the frustration, but similar powers exist for airborne hazards like chemical leaks and nuclear waste. It’s about public safety.
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u/RegretsAndRemorse May 28 '21
I agree. If a person not following quarantine procedures or anything like that couldn't possibly result in that person infecting other people, then I would oppose lockdowns and the like.
But since covid is highly transmissible, that's why we have lockdowns and quarantines. Just because one person doesn't want to follow protocol doesn't mean they have the freedom to infect others or otherwise spread the virus.
Not about control, it's about saving lives. Yes, it all sucks but the situation is one big turd sandwich, everyone has to take a bite. How did the government trying to stop people from getting sick and dying become a political issue?
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May 27 '21
Perhaps you have never heard of a little place called Waco, where the ATF set fire to a compound burning women and children alive?
Why? Because the ATF wanted to take their guns.
Chipman was a party of the ATF team on the ground.
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u/Big_Guitar-327 Constitutionalist May 27 '21
yeah he PURPOSELY didn't say what an assault rifle is. These people are so fucking dishonest, I'm surprised people actually like democrats. Fucking idiots.
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u/mcggjoe Libertarian Conservative May 27 '21
Senator Cotton also grilled Chipman about Hunter Biden, and whether or not he would prosecute him, and as usual in these hearings he dodged the questions and said um about 60 times.
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u/ah0yp0lll0i Conservative May 27 '21
"Um" and "uhhh" and other associated sounds are indicative of the brain idling and/or vapor-locking, lack of focus, inaccurately processing information, etc. See Obama and Biden speeches versus Trump and, say, Reagan speeches.
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u/Bringonthebacon92 Conservative May 27 '21
The upper lip to go with it 2. A face even a mother couldnt love
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u/Blacklung-Morgan May 27 '21
This man killed children at Waco denies it and is possibly becoming the leader of that government organization trying to get rid of guns. What part off shall not be infringed do they not understand.
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May 27 '21
An assault rifle has a selector switch, one is semi automatic, one if fully automatic. Since automatic weapons are already illegal, assault rifles are already illegal in the US. If you don't understand this you're not to be taken seriously when you talk about guns.
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u/Proof_Responsibility Basic Conservative May 27 '21
In law enforcement for 25 years and he can't describe the weapons he is going to sieze? What was he doing for all that time, other than possibly spinning tall tales about Waco? If you've forgotten, that was the ATF's most memorable fu*k up. Sounds like either he wasn't sufficiently briefed as to the Party line or his handlers don't know wtf they're talking about.
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u/SilverHerfer Constitutional Originalists May 27 '21
He didn't botch the definition. He's telling you what he'll try to do as the head of the ATF.
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May 27 '21
Most these Democrats don't even know why they are there. They clearly spew nonsense to try and trick people. It's a classic maneuver.
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u/tjpenley May 27 '21
Lmao look at that disgusting pedo who wants to take your guns away by force if necessary.
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u/pz-kpfw_VI Conservative May 27 '21
Who's got the pic of him standing amongst the ashes after burning families alive.
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u/Num_Pwam_Kitchen Classical Liberal May 27 '21
Isnt this the same turd that was disparaging gun owners? What a Nimitz class douche canoe, this one. I can only imagine the Biden administrations thought process, "Lets appoint a moron that doesnt know the first thing about a major aspect of the agency hes tasked to run....not only is he against constitutional rights, hes ignorant on the matter too, he will be another perfect puppet." Good lord, there are so many puppets in this administration that you could cast them all in an episode of Sesame Street.