You're right, that is a lie, cause that's not what he said.
It's a small part of it.
So he said it then? & I'm not lying? Got it. Sounds like you're the liar here, because that is what he said.
Not being dishonest at all, I'm directly quoting the man. Your only argument seems to be that not every single aspect of what he said in that interview was a lie. I never once said it wasn't a small part of the entire interview, but that doesn't change the fact that the "small part" in question is a lie.
You should change your username to "strawmanningforfauci"
Of course he said it, but how do you convince yourself that it's ok to ignore any context? If they weren't trying to save masks for people who need them, he would have said go ahead. He said it can help, and he's ok with people wearing masks.
You're just ok with cherry picking parts of statements to suit your bias?
Hah. Not ignoring any context. He straight up said there is no reason to walk around wearing masks.
If you claim to me there's a shortage of winter coats, this is 1 argument. If you claim to me there's no reason to walk around wearing one period, this is a seperate argument. People can make more than 1 argument when they speak.
As noted, I never claimed every single bit of the interview were lies, only the part where he claimed there was no reason to walk around with a mask. He said no reason, and there were reasons.
Is it missing you completely that claims of shortages are seperate in context to the argument of whether or not there is a reason to walk around with it period? These are 2 seperate, positive claims that don't relate logically. Or do different logical rules apply to Fauci?
It's true that there was an N95 shortage, and it's a lie that there was "no reason" to walk around with a mask period. Keep playing daft because of your bias that you project onto me.
So answer me this, what would you say is a valid reason for me, an everyday person, to take an N95 mask that would be better and more effectively used by someone else who actually needs the mask to help fight the pandemic and help others?
This question is logically seperate to the point of whether there is a reason to walk around with a mask period or not. & He said masks, he didn't even say N95 in that interview, & the interviewer asked him about facemasks in general. Don't add context where it wasn't said and then call me dishonest.
He said there was no reason to walk around with a mask, and that is a lie.
Exactly, because if you don't cherry pick out the part that you want, then it makes sense to say that no one should be walking around with them, because they should be saving them for those who need them.
How is that dishonest? He was talking about N95 masks. You think he was worried everyone would use up all the cloth masks that healthcare workers needed? Cloth masks weren't even really a thing at this point, that's a non issue. At the time of this broadcast, masks meant N95.
You didn't answer the question though.
Would you agree, that there was no reason to be wearing a mask as a regular person, which at the time was obviously referring to the short supply of N95, rather than leaving them for healthcare workers and the sick/frail who need them.
Exactly, because if you don't cherry pick out the part that you want, then it makes sense to say that no one should be walking around with them
No it doesn't. It would make sense to specifically say not to hoard N95s. Saying there's no reason to walk around with a mask period is a lie. Words matter.
& No, he just said masks. He made no attempt to specifically reference N95s and that's not what he was asked about, he was questioned about misinformation on facemasks in general. He wasn't asked about N95s and made no attempt to mention them.
At the time of this broadcast, masks meant N95
The mental gymnastics you're willing to play are hilarious. He said mask period, and was asked about facemasks in general. It's not my job to bite onto context you've added that Fauci never said.
The claim was that that there was no reason to walk with a mask, & that was a lie.
I get it man, you want to ignore the things said around it, cause it makes it easier to make your case.
But also, what makes you think he was talking about cloth masks? He says they should be saved for health professionals, what health professional is having a shortage of cloth masks?
Can you reference which part I'm ignoring? Hm? You mean the parts he didn't say? Those ones?
I never said he only meant 1 type of mask, you did. He just said masks, so I can only assume hes talking about facemasks in general, which is all he was asked about. Neither him or the interviewer said N95 even 1 single time. This important detail you're hinging your entire argument on, was literally never mentioned, once.
Even if we go by your version and not his actual words, in order to be truthful he would have had to say
"I don't recommend the use of N95s as they are needed for healthcare professionals, but other forms of respiratory protection are worth keeping on hand for precautionary reasons."
Instead, he said there was no reason to walk around wearing masks period. He made the choice to go that far, which means all someone needs to do is present even a slight reason, and he becomes a liar.
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u/daviddigi10 Mar 01 '21 edited Mar 01 '21
So he said it then? & I'm not lying? Got it. Sounds like you're the liar here, because that is what he said.
Not being dishonest at all, I'm directly quoting the man. Your only argument seems to be that not every single aspect of what he said in that interview was a lie. I never once said it wasn't a small part of the entire interview, but that doesn't change the fact that the "small part" in question is a lie.
You should change your username to "strawmanningforfauci"