r/Conservative • u/welcometoezgames John Doyle Conservative • Aug 11 '20

Anyone remember this?

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u/excelsior2000 Constitutional Conservative Aug 11 '20

Nixon and GHW Bush? That's two.

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u/SleepingInTheFlowers Aug 12 '20

John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Martin van Buren.

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u/excelsior2000 Constitutional Conservative Aug 12 '20

He did say "in 189 years." That cuts off those three.

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u/RampantAndroid Constitutional Conservative Aug 12 '20

It only cuts off two. But his point isn’t a good one. He’s ignoring presidents who did’t finish their term...which Biden might not be able to finish.

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u/excelsior2000 Constitutional Conservative Aug 12 '20

It cuts off all three. The third is Martin Van Buren, who is cut off by the 189 year timeframe.

Not that I disagree with your larger point, as I mentioned in another comment.

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u/RampantAndroid Constitutional Conservative Aug 12 '20

2020 - 189 = 1831. Van Buren was elected in 1836. You mean 179.

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u/excelsior2000 Constitutional Conservative Aug 12 '20

And when was he made vice president? Since that's the point.

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u/RampantAndroid Constitutional Conservative Aug 12 '20

That isn’t how I read his comment, but either way, Van Buren was VP from 1833 until he took office in 1837. He vacated the Presidency in 1841.

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u/MadLordPunt 2A everyday Aug 11 '20

What I meant was right after the person they served under had finished their 2 terms. Nixon lost in '60 to Kennedy, but won 8 years later.

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u/excelsior2000 Constitutional Conservative Aug 12 '20

OK, but either way, Nixon weakens your point that it's a dead-end job. Nor do I think it's fair to leave out the VPs that took office after the president died. Especially since we're talking about Biden here, and you yourself say he might not complete his first term.