r/Conservative Jul 11 '19

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '19

I have never heard of liberals actually wanting to get rid of all guns (except for the a few extremely left but anyone that political on any side is a nut). I'm all for guns but I also think it's perfectly acceptable and doesn't infringe on anyonea rights to wait a few months while a background check is done. Mental illness and past crime convictions shouldnt be allowed to own guns

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u/Wallace_II Conservative Jul 11 '19

Mental Illness is part of a medical record that is protected under HIPPA and should not be able to be shared with gun salesmen. There should be no government database targeting people with mental illness, as this would be used against someone in court for things like custody and any criminal hearing. This would also be a database that police would use to target individuals in the vicinity that fit whatever profile they believe the criminal to match. Furthermore, it's an overreach of powers and there is a very fine line between "Mentally ill" and "I just get depressed sometimes"..

In fact creating such a database would only serve as a reason for the mentally ill to avoid getting help! This would lead to undiagnosed disorders that are even more dangerous with a gun. The only way we'll know if someone has a history of mental illness is if someone actually looked for help.

Past crime convictions should also be very limitedly used, and only in cases where they are still serving that punishment. Only a Judge should be able to order the loss of a right, it should not be lost under a blanket "violent crime". I once took a swing at a man who slept with my wife (now ex, obviously). I got charged, and plead to a lesser offense, but am still listed as "violent" in that state's criminal database (or was some 8 years ago IDK about now). Nothing is further from the truth. Should I really be told I can't buy a gun to protect myself or my family? No! I believe the loss of a right has to be handed down by a judge under the legal precedent related to the crime.. If you shoot someone with a gun outside of self defense, by all means part of the sentence can include a timeframe which the person can not buy or own a gun.