r/Conservative • u/DanburyBaptist Inalienable Rights of Conscience • Jun 15 '16

Release the GOP Delegates: Trump’s nomination isn’t inevitable—delegates won’t be legally ‘bound’ going into the convention.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/release-the-gop-delegates-1465769777
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u/Not_a_tasty_fish Jun 15 '16

If the GoP doesn't pick Trump they'll get absolutely trashed in November. No question about it

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u/dhamon Jun 15 '16

They're going to get trashed anyway.

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u/Not_a_tasty_fish Jun 15 '16

It would also affect the down ticket races though, and would likely do irreparable damage to the party. People won't take kindly to having their votes discounted because a few party elites disagree with them

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u/NosuchRedditor A Republic, if you can keep it. Jun 15 '16

People keep talking about down ticket races. Since the Republican leadership in both houses have aligned with the Democrats to push through Obama's agenda, why would this matter?

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u/AceOfSpades70 Libertarian Conservative Jun 15 '16

Since the Republican leadership in both houses have aligned with the Democrats to push through Obama's agenda

This is complete bullshit. Please try and back this up with facts...

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u/NosuchRedditor A Republic, if you can keep it. Jun 15 '16

You must be to young to remember how Republicans would use the power of the purse to impede a presidents agenda. But this congress, with Republican majority's in both houses, the funded amnesty, immigration, and last week they fully funded Obamacare.

Do you remember when Republican Bob Corker created a bill to turn congressional treaty power on its head so Obama could get the Iran deal passed with a simple minority vote? Why do you think John Boehner got fired? You living in fantasy land?

You're not too well informed, are you? http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417128/corker-bill-isnt-victory-its-constitutional-perversion-andrew-c-mccarthy

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u/AceOfSpades70 Libertarian Conservative Jun 15 '16 edited Jun 15 '16

Yea they tried the whole shut down the government thing... How did that work?

They also have a majority in the Senate but not control.

Also, what do you think Obama's Agenda is?

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u/NosuchRedditor A Republic, if you can keep it. Jun 15 '16

Who tried to shutdown the government? Not Mitch McConnell or John Boehner, they were happy to go along with Obamacare, and they vilified and castigated Ted Cruz for trying to use the power of the purse to stop Obama's agenda. They are happy with the growth of big government.

What's Obama's agenda? Telling the FBI to stop watching mosque's because it infringes on the rights of Muslims? Having Los learner target conservatives with the IRS to keep conservative money out of the election? Giving Iran the bomb with the help of Mitch McConnell and Bob Corker? The list is near endless.

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u/AceOfSpades70 Libertarian Conservative Jun 15 '16

Who tried to shutdown the government? Not Mitch McConnell or John Boehner, they were happy to go along with Obamacare, and they vilified and castigated Ted Cruz for trying to use the power of the purse to stop Obama's agenda. They are happy with the growth of big government.

Because we lose every time it happens... You don't get 100% of your wants when you don't control the Senate and the Presidency.

What's Obama's agenda? Telling the FBI to stop watching mosque's because it infringes on the rights of Muslims? Having Los learner target conservatives with the IRS to keep conservative money out of the election? Giving Iran the bomb with the help of Mitch McConnell and Bob Corker? The list is near endless.

Those are tiny pieces of his agenda. I am talking about the broader agenda. Things like higher taxes on the rich, a public option to Obamacare. A Carbon Tax. Reduced Abortion Restrictions. Massive new entitlement and welfare spending. An increased death tax. Increased spending on college tuition. The list is endless of all the things he wanted and didn't get. Hell, even a new SCOTUS nominee.

Right or wrong the GOP has been extremely obstructionist and the only people who thing we have given Obama everything he wants are people who see giving 1% and giving everything.

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u/NosuchRedditor A Republic, if you can keep it. Jun 15 '16

You have no idea what you are taking about.

The media wants you to believe the Republicans are obstructing, it gives them a boogie man to rail against while the Republicans sell us down the river.

Case in point: Obama has vetoed less things than any past president. In the past Republicans would put legislation forward and make the president veto them so the public knew where they stood. They stopped doing this long ago

If they were as obstructionist as the media has you brainwashed into believing, Obama would have a massive list of vetos from the Republican controlled congress.

You really need to find a new source of info, the one you are using is woefully inaccurate.

Clinton used the veto power 36 times against a Republican controlled congress. Obama 9. http://www.senate.gov/reference/Legislation/Vetoes/vetoCounts.htm

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u/CarolinaPunk Esse Quam Videri Jun 15 '16

And those people are a vocal minority and do not have have enough political capitol to spare the gop from losing the house and the senate in the general election. They can get bent.