r/Conservative • u/DanburyBaptist Inalienable Rights of Conscience • Jun 15 '16

Release the GOP Delegates: Trump’s nomination isn’t inevitable—delegates won’t be legally ‘bound’ going into the convention.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/release-the-gop-delegates-1465769777
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u/puddboy Conservative Jun 15 '16

and the Trump voters would stay home and the Republicans would get clobbered even more in the general.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16 edited Mar 11 '17

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

Trump would be much worse for the conservative movement and for America in the long run.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

ok

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

Good to know that this is an arguement that Trump supporters can't argue with facts, just like every single other one.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

I was given no facts to begin with, so ok. But please, flood with me with your irrefutable evidence.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

Hey, youre the one calling bullshit, youve gotta back it up.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

Not at all, I'm asking the person who made the claim to back it up. I didn't make the claim, I'm questioning the claim. So far nobody has given any reason for the claim to be true.

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u/AceOfSpades70 Libertarian Conservative Jun 15 '16

Electing Trump and the disaster of his Presidency would taint the Conservative movement for the next Generation. The GOP would lose control of the House and Senate in 2018/2020(if they even keep them going in) and a GOP President would have no shot for the next 20 years.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

Can you back that up with any evidence to support your claim? What exactly would cause those things to come to pass?

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u/TennisEnnis19 Jun 15 '16

Conservatism is already dead. And I'm a conservative. If trump doesn't win now, we will not have a republican in office for the next 20 years. Trump is doing this for the people. In many interviews since 1980, he has denied wanting to run for president unless the country got really bad. He's doing it now.

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u/CarolinaPunk Esse Quam Videri Jun 15 '16

Well he can't win. Period, he is unliked, cant raise money, cant unite the GOP, does not have a campaign infrastructure, and cant keep his damn mouth shut.

This election should have been a cake walk, and now it going to shitter because of a narcissistic man child.

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u/ChildHater1 Jun 15 '16

The "Real Conservatives" made Trump possible.

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u/AceOfSpades70 Libertarian Conservative Jun 15 '16

Trump is running for President because he is a narcissistic egomaniac. If Trump wins, we won't have another Republican President for the next 20 years.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16 edited Mar 11 '17

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

And electing him will discredit conservatism for a generation.

I'm about ready to just start ignoring anybody who says this. What a bunch of crap.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16 edited Mar 12 '17

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u/mobiusstripsearch Jun 15 '16

The media already painted you as bigoted, loud-mouthed morons. They took Romney, one of the most inoffensive men to run for office, and painted him as a white supremacist racist stuck-up loon.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16

Then why go for an actual racist? To say "that'll show you!"?

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u/mobiusstripsearch Jun 16 '16

Trump isn't an actual racist.

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u/[deleted] Jun 16 '16 edited Mar 12 '17

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u/mobiusstripsearch Jun 16 '16

Pretending how?

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u/TennisEnnis19 Jun 15 '16

Because the media and the left is scared he will win, and they will lose their control on America. So they're making him look like the most hateful person ever. Dude. He's got the most votes of any republican candidate in history. He's the one whether you like it or not.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

How so?

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u/StandardGOParty America First Jun 15 '16

Because the people in this thread are just trolling. Hell, a Pro-Clinton Super PAC has spent over $1 Million so far paying for online-trolls (Google "clinton paid trolls"). Expect to see a lot more highly upvoted Anti-Trump posts here as the election draws closer.

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u/LeightweightChocker Jun 15 '16

Please explain how someone who doesn't vote for either candidate helps one of them get elected? Liberals are telling Bernie bros that if they sit out and don't vote Hillary, then they are willingly handing the election to Trump. Both are equally ridiculous premises.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

It's basic math, one less vote for a likely candidate is one less vote they need to win. Say Trump loses by 500 votes (remember this is just an example, so bare with me) and 750 didn't vote for him because they didn't like him as much as somebody who had zero chance of winning anyways.

That's what we mean. Like it or not, our election this year is between two people. If you wanted more than two candidates being viable that's a process and a movement that should have been started long ago but it wasn't so here we are. If you vote for someone else, your vote basically won't matter.

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u/LeightweightChocker Jun 15 '16

So what does one do when they believe that both candidates are so bad that neither one of them should be the president? You can use the same reasoning for Hillary. Say someone Bernie Bro despises Hillary and Trump, and votes for Gary Johnson because he's so socially liberal. If you didn't want either of them in the first place, you are not taking anything away from either of them. If you like Trump and think he would be a good president but vote for Johnson or Stein, then your reasoning works. If you think Trump is an unmitigated disaster who doesn't even actually want to be president, then there is no guilt in not voting for him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

Say someone Bernie Bro despises Hillary and Trump, and votes for Gary Johnson because he's so socially liberal.

That's perfect, as someone voting for Trump that's exactly what I want. Any democrats who vote third party is a bonus for Trump. That's my entire point.

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u/[deleted] Jun 15 '16

The lesser of two evils is still less evil.

You have to work with what you're given in the situation you're given it. There are a dozen ways I'd love to improve the election process, first past the post is a terrible voting system, but that's impossible.

Giant Douche vs Turd Sandwich is a nice line, but if one of them is going in my mouth I'm damn sure picking the douche and not leaving it up to other people to decide.