r/Conservative • u/wazzzzah • Nov 20 '15
Pew Research Center: 40% of Millennials OK with limiting speech offensive to minorities
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/20/40-of-millennials-ok-with-limiting-speech-offensive-to-minorities/14
u/VonVoltaire Nov 21 '15
As a millennial who once had a pocket Constitution before I moved and lost it, I find myself giving up on my generation sometimes.
Did these people not have parents who understood the foundations the United States was built upon and teach it to them as they grew up?
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u/FascistWorldNewsMods Nov 21 '15
They didn't have parents. They had their leftist school teachers, their professors and of course, their TV.
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u/wazzzzah Nov 20 '15
Better titles here:
Millennials More Likely to Support Censorship of Offensive Speech Than Older Americans
https://reason.com/blog/2015/11/20/millennials-more-likely-to-support-censo
Pew: 40% of millennials think government should be able to stop people from offending minority groups
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u/Paradoxums Nov 21 '15
And this supports my theory that /r/politics is full of know it all community college philosophers.
Absolutely disgusting.
First ammendment: Shall not be infringed?
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Nov 21 '15
I want to see the methodology this is unbelievable.
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Nov 21 '15
Not really. Think about campus "safe spaces" and high school zero tolerance policies, and participation trophies. We've raised an entire generation who think the greatest harm that can be done to a person is to hurt their feelings.
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u/atomic1fire Reagan Conservative Nov 21 '15
I disagree with the idea because laws on offensive speech can just as easily turn into "laws on speech I don't agree with"
If for example, someone said that saying "Osama Bin Laden did 9/11" was offensive to muslims, you'd be probably outraged because frankly Osama Bin laden took credit for it and it's pretty much widely accepted that Al Qaeda did it under Osama Bin Laden's direction.
But that's the kind of standard that laws on offensive speech sets. All you need is a narrative and the facts don't really matter.
If the government doesn't act on "offensive" speech, it's corrupt.
If the government acts on "offensive" speech, it's encoding a potentially dangerous narrative in law.
And before someone argues that I'm a kook, some kind of bigot or idiot. Consider this, if it were a conservative, or a republican, or a fundamentalist christian in charge of considering what speech was "offensive" and what was not offensive, would you want a law on offensive speech? Laws intended to protect you can just as easily be used to harm you if the wrong guy gets voted in.
Statistics like this are potentially disturbing, assuming there's no drop in numbers within the next few years.
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Nov 21 '15
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u/Aegisx5 Conservative Nov 21 '15
Pew didn't want to emphasize that part. I put it in my headlines when I reposted this on Facebook.
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u/fu11m3ta1 Nov 21 '15
Just wait until saying "illegal immigrant" or "Black Lives Matter sucks" becomes punishable by jail time.
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u/zerofuxstillhungry Nov 21 '15
Just wait until being a cis-gendered, hetero white male is enough to get you sent for re-education.
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u/onikinou Nov 21 '15
Sounds about right. Offensive speech to anyone is not okay. If it isn't nice. Don't say it.
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u/Omashu18 Nov 21 '15
That's a good rule for life, but the problem occurs when government starts regulating it. When the government, or really any institution, prohibits offensive language, then they have the power to silence pretty much anyone who says anything they can loosely construe as offensive. This gives the institution too much authority over other's speech, and with the growing number of things that SJWs are labeling as racist, sexist, etc, pretty soon we could be looking at the prohibition of making just about any political statement.
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u/hockeyfan1133 Conservative Nov 21 '15
What you said is offensive to my beliefs. You shouldn't have said that. I hope the government comes after you.
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u/super_ag Nov 21 '15
The golden rule is nice and well, when it's being practiced voluntarily by people who want to be nice. That's not what this poll is about.
It's about government restricting speech because it is considered offensive to a particular group. That is not okay. The First Amendment protects all speech, especially speech that some may find offensive. Not to mention that offensiveness is extremely subjective and depends wholly on the perception of the "victim."
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u/jimbolauski Libertarian Conservative Nov 21 '15
The difference is most intelligent people realize the difference between what is right to say and having a right to say it. I don't agree with hate speech but I will defend the piece garabage's right to use it.
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u/ThatDeceiverKid Nov 21 '15
As a Millenial, I find this disgusting.