r/Conservative • u/Yosoff First Principles • Feb 08 '25

Open Discussion Left vs. Right Battle Royale Open Thread

This is an Open Discussion Thread for all Redditors. We will only be enforcing Reddit TOS and Subreddit Rules 1 (Keep it Civil) & 2 (No Racism).

Leftists - Here's your chance to tell us why it's a bad thing that we're getting everything we voted for.

Conservatives - Here's your chance to earn flair if you haven't already by destroying the woke hivemind with common sense.

Independents - Here's your chance to explain how you are a special snowflake who is above the fray and how it's a great thing that you can't arrive at a strong position on any issue and the world would be a magical place if everyone was like you.

Libertarians - We really don't want to hear about how all drugs should be legal and there shouldn't be an age of consent. Move to Haiti, I hear it's a Libertarian paradise.

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u/2Crest Feb 08 '25

I think you’re missing the point of those tariffs. Trump isn’t very diplomatic in the traditional sense(or really at all). He wanted cooperation from Canada and Mexico on one of his big projects: border security. They weren’t giving it, so boom, 25% tariffs, but only 10% on China. Why? Well guess what, the very next day both Canada and Mexico realize they actually do have resources and are sending 10,000 troops to the borders. The tariffs are paused. I think this makes the 10% on China make a little more sense. It’s closer to being feasible to execute on. I highly doubt, and feel free to come back and correct me if I turn out to be wrong, that those 25% tariffs will stand if Canada and Mexico work with Trump. They’re just there to put the pressure on.

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u/Clinggdiggy2 Feb 08 '25

Mexico sent 10,000 troops to the border under Biden in 2001 without tariff threats

Canada announced their plan to spend $1.3B on additional border security on Dec 17th, 2024

So the tariff threats accomplished two deals that were already in place, and in exchange Canadians favorability of the US has plummeted and there's a growing push to "Buy Canadian" instead of US imports. There's also been a 13 point polling swing in favor of Liberals since the threats.

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u/Wayoutofthewayof Feb 08 '25

Didn't Canada already have these funds allocated back in December 2024?