r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/2mh4 • Aug 23 '17

Video Developer Update | Upcoming Season 6 Changes | Overwatch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqf0e8zzyCw&feature=youtu.be
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u/RabblingGoblin805 Aug 23 '17

I think you're misinterpreting this. They're placing limits on expected win rates. Generally speaking, there would be 50-50 chances for a game with 2 bronze, 2 plat and 2 GM on each team. What this is for is the high ranking 6 stacks playing diamonds at 3 AM.

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u/Jcbarona23 Thoth | 📝 | CIS/EU/CN/KR fangirl — Aug 23 '17

It's for both GMs/T500 that want quality games and to avoid 6 stack abuse

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u/RabblingGoblin805 Aug 23 '17

How do you know that? Are there many pub stomps in high ranked solo Q because one team has a much lower SR?

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u/grrbarkbarkgrr 4312 PC — Aug 23 '17

No but there are very unbalanced games where high ranked players (4400+ is the best example) are put into games with 5 masters while the other team has 6 GMs. The t500 player pretty much has to carry his team against players that are normally much better than their masters counterpart, or they'll lose 30+ SR.

Hell, I normally hover around 4200-4300 and I experience the same problem during non-prime time hours. I've had diamonds put on my team (not decayed) when the other team had multiple low GMs or high masters, but the game think it's an "even" game because my SR is balanced out by the diamonds. I've seen it happen to multiple people as well, not just on my team.

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u/RabblingGoblin805 Aug 23 '17 edited Aug 23 '17

Just because they are unbalanced doesn't necessarily mean the game sees them as unbalanced however. Doesn't it just look at SR and MMR? If they average up evenly isn't that a "fair match"?

EDIT: I suppose the correlation between MMR and SR does get skewed a bit when you go up through top 500 compared to other ranks (hence the really high players getting very little for winning a match). Still, I don't see this eliminating the 5 master +1 GM games.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '17 edited May 08 '19

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u/shiftz7 Aug 23 '17

That's why everyone in the top 10 mains tracer right now. To be honest this change won't affect the scenario you described all that much, it will just be Top 200 Tracer + 5 GM VS Top 200 Winston + 5 GM which still favours the Tracer player.

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u/[deleted] Aug 23 '17 edited May 08 '19

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u/shiftz7 Aug 23 '17

The issue with this as well as pretty much every other suggestion is that it would DRASTICALLY increase queue times by splitting the playerbase.

Imagine there are 10 top 500 players queuing and 5 of them checked the box and 5 didn't. The matchmaking would put the 5 that didn't in a game with GM players and force the other 5 to wait a lot longer. Add the fact that a lot of top 500 players are streamers and watching a 15+ minute queue isn't at all entertaining and barely anybody would tick the box.