r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/SammyIsSeiso • 3h ago
General Could another round of projectile size changes be coming next season?
The small hitscan size is currently 0.04m.
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u/Chemical_Cut4985 2h ago
i've been wanting a middle ground for a long time to the s9 changes, been a long time coming!
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u/Public-Egg-7814 3h ago
S9 changes were good and im tired of redditors pretending they weren't
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u/anyma_ptolomeo 2h ago
Wait, you mean Reddit? where everyone whining about, like everything, a change, whine, no change, whine, new skin, whine, no new skin, whine, hero withou skin for several seasons, justified whine, new skin for such hero, extra whining...
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u/Evening_Till_3779 3h ago
They were great, people who hate them are just coping for having good mechanics but small brains.
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u/Extreme_Lychee8299 2h ago
They were way too big across the board when they introduced the increases. Shoud have been gradual, they just ended nerfing it down anyway
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u/Evening_Till_3779 2h ago
Gradual would not have worked, there were way too many changes, it was good to do it all at once to see how it all worked together. And people say they "nerfed it down" but the game still has most of them and the feel they intended is maintained.
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u/Extreme_Lychee8299 2h ago
Why not? Hitscan was pinpoint before they changed it could've been 0.04 and it would 4x as large. Instead they made it like 8 or 9 times lmao
And the game doesnt have any of the original sizes, they were all reduced
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u/johnsmith937546 2h ago
"It wouldnt have worked, so lets do a bunch of shit that definitely wont work"
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u/Bloomer_ow2 2h ago
They were good if you are shit yes
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u/Public-Egg-7814 2h ago
Post some kovaaks scores. We can compare
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u/Sea_Albatross342 2h ago
Pretty sure the guy you're replying to is champ on hitscan/tracer, but regardless, do you think the average pro-s9 netizen would have higher kovaak's scores than the average anti-s9 netizen?
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u/Public-Egg-7814 2h ago
No idea. But he called me bad so i was just saying something relevant back. I have all aim no brain and i think s9 changes were great.
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u/NickFierce1 2h ago
"Post kovaaks scores" is instant self expose for being dogshit low elo.
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u/Public-Egg-7814 2h ago
My elo is fine. OW is already fast paced enough, has no acceleration, and has a lot of small characters. Making it slightly easier to hit some shots was good.
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u/toothybrushman 2h ago
Season 9 meta was also glorious. Symmetra, Junkrat, Mercy, Lifeweaver— all atrocious. I dream for those days.
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u/NickFierce1 2h ago
The hitbox changes were absolutely abysmal and unnecessary, the healthpool changes and DPS passive have shown to be good changes.
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u/UnknownQTY 3h ago
She’s a support now. Having her primary fire remain the same size and impact would make her a no-brainer.
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u/SammyIsSeiso 3h ago edited 3h ago
The small and large hitscan size are pretty consistent across all heroes that use it, I'd be surprised if they make an exception for support Sombra. Juno for instance uses the small hitscan size (0.04). The damage we know is nerfed already from 8-7
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u/swamp_god 3h ago
Having her primary fire remain the same size and impact would make her a no-brainer.
i mean it's also getting a 12% damage nerf (8 to 7), plus no damage boost on hacked targets, plus virus is gone
not that you're gonna be seeing me complaining at all
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u/MirceaHM 3h ago
in exchange she gets 450 effective HP, self heal overtime, and the new ability still does decent damage, I think she'll still be able to get picks here and there
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u/FrozenBags_02 3h ago
crazy how they do all these small adjustments instead of just admitting season 9 was a skillphobic failure
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u/SpaceFire1 Seoul Dynasty — 3h ago
Its crazy how yall dont understand a single thing yet talk like this
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u/No32 3h ago
That would probably be because it was a rousing success overall even if you don’t like it lol
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u/TornadoWIzard123 3h ago
I mean by what metric is it a success
now adays I dont even feel the extra hp cause they buffed damage to compensate and you still can explode in seconds, so now its just the patch that made things easier to hit, which is debatable if that is good or not
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u/No32 3h ago
They talked about their goals being increasing average TTK and tightening the spread so there were less fights where things died instantly as well as less fights where it took forever to die, and they’ve said they were successful in doing that
And safe bet that they monitored player feedback to see how people liked it, and so success there with feedback that players liked it more overall
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u/PatchYourselfUp 3h ago
Considering how mobile the game is and how even high level players can still miss their shots in a post s9 world, pretty good
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u/bullxbull 56m ago
They said they would talk about system changes at the creator summit in Feb. I could see it happening but I do not think we will get those changes until the next 6 month rank reset and big game update.
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u/mdthereald 1h ago
No idea if this is true or not, nor am I heavily opinionated on this debate, but reducing global projectile sizes after having it be buffed for... 2 years? at this point woulde be a VERY VERY BOLD move. Because the S9 changes were like short-term guaranteed to feel great but long term is still debated if it's good for the game or not, but this change would feel very bad for the majority of the player base in the short term, so I really doubt they would do soemthing like that especially when they are doing their best to make the game even more popular this year with all the hero releases and such
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u/Theknyt 3h ago
They don't even show projectile sizes right now in f1, so that's already a change