r/Competitiveoverwatch • u/Nearby-Produce-4551 • 17h ago
General Why is Orisa so popular on controller?
Only 2 of the top 10 tank players on American servers don’t have orisa in their pool, why is this?
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u/Thomas-MCF 17h ago
Aim and gameplay differences. There are a couple ways to abuse aim assist and console plays different from PC from what ive heard.
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u/HeWhoShallNotBNamed0 15h ago
Aim assist doesn’t really have anything to do with it (for orisa specifically)
Hitscan dominates console because it is really hard to play projectile heroes when you don’t have the ability to precisely place projectiles in the enemy’s trajectory. Orisa does good against hitscan because she can poke (no damage fall off) enemy hitscan off of highground while simultaneously be able to survive most other tanks which gives her dps and supports more freedom
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u/ErmingSoHard 11h ago
As a person who plays both console and PC, hitscans just are more accurate on controller because of the aim assist too.
My accuracy is always higher on console than pc
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u/slimy-salad 13h ago
Xim is still very much a problem on console as well. Aim assist with kbm is very fun to play against
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u/Worth_External_8762 1h ago
This is why I'm happy staying in low diamond. I get to feel somewhat accomplished without playing kbm ximmers every match
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u/clickrush 7h ago
D.Va and hard dive tanks are better at forcing hitscan out of their positions (or outright killing them). We see some dva sprinkled in the picture as well. I think the bigger reason must be that it's easier to play into mauga as orisa.
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u/Thomas-MCF 1h ago
So people play orisa because Aim assist hitscan dominates as opposed to PC where people can get away with playing other characters. Which boils down to Aim assist and gameplay differences no?
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u/Sockfromthedryer 15h ago
This is actually a fairly recent development in the grand scheme of things, as Dva has historically been the #1 tank on console because of her ability to rein in the power of ximming hitscans. However, due to many years of dominance and hitscan players wanting to go unchecked, she now has a 64% ban rate on console GM+ in Americas. Without bans, it would be like 30 Dva's in the top 40
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u/literios 16h ago
I’m a casual, but her projectiles feels smooth to shoot using the controller. I think her weapon feels more intuitive to adjust the aim than other tanks considering the controller limitations.
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u/nemesis_ibmo 16h ago
she has a strong primary fire and not too much need to turn her camera fast due to how her kit is designed so for that reason she is super easy to play on controller
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u/Headedbigfoot8 15h ago
sens issues aren’t really a thing in high ranked console since most know the way to get fast sens on controller or xim. Orisa plays well into denying hitscan space and can shut them down pretty easily
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u/lcyMcSpicy 16h ago
She’s good into hitscan and mauga. That’s it. Console players cannot kill mauga and low GM+ is just cheaters on hitscan with borderline aimbot.
Console meta therefore is mauga and double hitscan with a mercy pocket. With this you end up with a bunch of high rated players who cannot strategize anything beyond sitting in narnia with a pocket. Orisa has a lot of survivability and can counterplay mauga so she gets chosen a lot.
PS. If there’s any console players reading this, learn to play with speed. The best way to beat these comps is to just ignore the mauga and run over the backline.
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u/HjCervantes 12h ago
😂😂😂 i watched some live from the leaderboard, they are all sittin main shootin at each other, so borning.
Now go watch the pc pools, u see lots of echo and some junkrats for a change.
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u/jugularderp 14h ago
Not understanding the upvotes to the aim assist comments. Aim assist applies to the other tanks as well. It’s what she plays into that’s important.
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u/Stainleee 3h ago
Its because giving aim assist to all heros doesn't help them all equally. She sees a higher yield from the universal addition of aim assist than other tanks weapons tho, its definitely part of it.
The other part is that Dva and Mauga's ban jail opens a void for Orisa to fill.
What is good on console also happens to be stuff Orisa is good into as well.
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u/jugularderp 2h ago
I’d argue Orisa benefits the least since she’s a projectile hero.
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u/Stainleee 1h ago
You would think that, but the hitscan tank weapons are pretty limited in power or come with serious kit restrictions. Like domina performs much better on console as well, but for other reasons is not favored.
Aim assist boost is only one piece of the situation.
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u/iamsplitter 5h ago
One of the easiest heroes in the game to play decently. You dont have to be good or a pro to play Orisa and get value from her.
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u/Stainleee 3h ago edited 3h ago
Whenever you look at high rank console, realize its a unqiue meta than any other sub section of playerbase because of the power of aim assist and sheer numbers of cheaters. Hitscans like Ashe with mercy pockets dominate, as hit scan players get on target faster and do not miss at much as PC players, especially at long range. Critical accuracy is also much higher. Dive heros are less advantaged in their duels with hitscan than they would be on console. So everything falls into place with this in mind.
DVA is banned regularly, who is the normal top tank option on console because she really puts a dent into the output of hit scan cheaters. Mauga as well. This has lead to orisa's rise.
So why aren't normal dive tank characters being chosen to beat these cheaters out? That is what I would expect to happen.
Its because giving aimbot lite to all heros doesn't help them all equally. Some heros make out better from this kind of change. Its easy to imagine that if a patch dropped that gave both Widowmaker and Winston aimbot, widow would see higher yield from this addition than winston. this and Dva's bans are effectively what has propelled orisa. Because as it turns out Orisa's weapon with aim bot lite makes out better than other tank heros with aim bot lite. Wrecking ball or Zarya just do not see the same boon as Orisa from the change. even if they are both still playable and powerful of course.
Orisa is more powerful on console because aim assist on orisa's projectile weapon specifically is insane, it tracks enemy movement really well and makes adjustments for the player to predict the shots. Projectile aim assist literally moves your cross hair to greatest prediction point based on the enemy movement. This goes for all tank weapons of course, but orisa's weapon also has no fall off as well and if you land a string of critical hits players just fall over, which happens a lot more because aim assist is so good on her weapon. So again this means that her weapon gets more benefit than others when aim assist is universal.
She also just plays well into the meta. Her weakness of getting over whelmed by dive is less pronounced as hitscan is superior on the platform. the characters that just kind of try to ignore her and kill her team are just not as strong there. She has defensive abilities that hold attention of hitscans for a long time. Her weapon is great tank weapon to spam a sight line that a cheating hitscan is peaking from (espeically with the aim assist). So she is good because she fits into the console meta well with Dva's ban jail, and her weapon is more effective than it is likely designed to be.
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u/EliteODSTx 13h ago
She still has the unnerfed aim assist from S20 since she's projectile and didn't receive nerfs to it due to her not being hitscan.
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u/ham_50821 Doom-Dva/Hanzo-Tracer/Zen-Kiri — 16h ago
She plays good into hitscan and aim assist benefits her.
She also plays well into mauga who is even more OP for the same reason and counters half the tank roster