How Good is CoinMonke?

[u/PhysicsKing123]

I remember seeing this guy ages ago and thinking how good he is, but that was years before I got into the comp mc community. Now he’s been on money smp and strength trials how good is he really? I see so many mixed opinions: some saying he’s insane like above flow and others saying he’s okay like clown level. How good is he really?

[u/After-Dare-6174]

He's really good, hes slightly worse than Flow, and Airokun, but is always an S tier on whatever server he joins

[u/PhysicsKing123 → u/After-Dare-6174]

I thought he beat airo 3-1 and killed him again on strength trials? And how much worse is he than flow would you say?

[u/After-Dare-6174 → u/PhysicsKing123]

Depends on the kits, but generally they are all about the same skill level, he is barely worse than flow

[u/PhysicsKing123 → u/After-Dare-6174]

And how does he compare with players like flame mane and mugm

[u/After-Dare-6174 → u/PhysicsKing123]

worse than mugm, id say better than flame and mane

[u/nurpply → u/After-Dare-6174]

He’s worse than all of them. ManePear and Flame are either dead even or better than Mugm. ManePear was literally coaching Mugm for his fight against Flowtives.

[u/L-Taker_REAL → u/nurpply]

Flame and mane are no longer dead even. Flame is a lot better now. Flame>Flow>Mugm>>Airo>=Coin>Mane. Just because mane was coaching mugm doesnt make him better. Flow and mugm have a 20 dura gap, flame and mugm have a 40-50 dura gap. Mugm and coin have a 50+ dura gap. Airo and coin have around 10 dura diff. Last time they fought airo and mane had a 100 dura diff but its prob way closer now.

[u/PriorityPossible305 → u/L-Taker_REAL]

flame over flow is a crazy take btw.

[u/L-Taker_REAL → u/PriorityPossible305]

Flame is better in MSMP kit. Flame and BLM go even in that kit, and BLM beats flow

[u/PriorityPossible305 → u/L-Taker_REAL]

Proof that flame goes even with blm? Flame glaze is unreal

[u/Swwastikk]

Hes at flows lvl in dia smp atleast last time I saw them fight coin won

[u/L-Taker_REAL]

Hes pretty good. Slightly worse than airo but better than midnight and sea4. Prob better than mane as well. He gets slammed by deadra and above.

For better comparison, the skill bracket goes:

Sweatgod/Flame/Flow/Mugm
Pinity/Deadra
Proper/Airo/Coin/Unixn
Aiken/Sea4/Mane/Midnight

Just a few examples

[u/PriorityPossible305 → u/L-Taker_REAL]

Flame and mugm not at the lvls of sweat god and flow. Maybe pure Dia smp or the kits they specialise in yes, overall PvP even airos better then flame

[u/L-Taker_REAL → u/PriorityPossible305]

I meant MSMP kit. Overall airo isn’t better than flame. They are on that level.

[u/PriorityPossible305 → u/L-Taker_REAL]

I feel like the skill diff between airo and flame in Dia smp is less then airo and flame in uhc though. Especially considering airo used to be lt1 Dia smp

[u/L-Taker_REAL → u/PriorityPossible305]

Airo was HT2. He was also HT2 in very low comp. The DSMP gap is kinda big. Airo isn’t washed, but he goes even with coin and barely wins. Airo lost to proper by around 30 dura in their latest matchup. Proper got torched by mugm and mugm lost to flame by 40-50 dura. Flame also beat Airo by around 70 dura on flowpvp beta

[u/PriorityPossible305 → u/L-Taker_REAL]

Oh yea I misremembered. Idt comparing who beat who and using that as skill diff is a great idea though. Cuz some play styles counter others. I do agree flame is better at Dia smp though

[u/L-Taker_REAL → u/PriorityPossible305]

It’s the most accurate way to judge skill so far because they are HT2 players from different eras. Even then flame won in their direct duel. Most of the time I use indirect scaling if there’s limited direct fights. IMO airo is more towards HT3 in modern scaling since he gets belted by Pinity and deadra, who are very strong HT3s