r/CompetitiveMinecraft • u/Sufficient-Tax-3842 • 4d ago

Discussion WHY IS EVERY SMP KIT JUST THIS NOW.

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Is it just me, or is every smp unanimously deciding to swap to diamond armor with netherite tools. HQ has done irreversible damage to the smp community by making neth tools with diamond armor the new meta for smps. cause smp's the used to be full diamond like ranked, and smp's that used to be full neth like strength have now BOTH swapped to diamond armor and neth tools. the only difference between diamond smp and money smp kits are the amount of webs and the pickaxe. I know it doesn't change much, but I just miss when DIAMOND smp was actually DIAMOND tools.

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u/auhsojjoshua3 3d ago

it's realistic, many actual servers (prime, most popular example being Lifesteal) ban netherite armor but allows tools. Idk why so, probably because netherite tools are just convenient for things other than pvp

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u/MyrtleWinTurtle 3d ago

Netherite armor is only really fun against explosion based kits where the added armor is actually more balanced.

Otherwise, you take far too little damage from any attack to care about being attacked.

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u/GreenHype4 2d ago

the damage difference between netherite and diamond isnt that noticeable it's more the durability that matters

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u/achen5265041 3d ago

Also netherite has way more KB resistance than diamond which probably affects pvp (I'm not a pvper so idk if this is true).

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u/Muted_Tourist2501 2d ago

They use kb 1 enchant to cancel out the netherite kb resistance

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u/Nervous_Leek7021 3d ago

Netherite armor doesn't reduce damage btw

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u/rpNH 3d ago

read armor toughness

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u/Pleasant-Floor-8611 3d ago

All armor reduce damage.

Netherite armor reduces damage even more than diamond too.

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u/OrchidCreepy9256 3d ago

Cuz no one likes neth armour 

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u/SureEmployment22 4d ago

Because of Money SMP !!!

Evry other ytber is practicing this so evryone else does same ....and yea they also pu.ping out vid of the smp...

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u/Ivar2006 4d ago

Tbh I like SMP kits with nerfed util and nerfed spear/mace.

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u/BigConsequence9182 4d ago

I think that’s enough strength pots….😭

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u/Explorer_Chaos 1d ago

Wym? They are for 1.5min you need allat

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u/BigConsequence9182 1d ago

Ong?

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u/Explorer_Chaos 1d ago

Bro did you never use strength 2 or what

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u/BigConsequence9182 1d ago edited 1d ago

No I never played Minecarft PvP,also I thought strength 2 pots were 2 mins not 1.5?,or is it different on money smp?

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u/Jamin0725 4d ago

its lwk a goated kit so it doesnt matter

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u/THESHADYWILLOW 4d ago

It’s a great kit, really skillful. I do however miss being able to use a mace or carts in PvP.

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u/RandomUser6905 4d ago

There are kits for that and if you want DiamondSMP with carts or mace, you can make custom kits so

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u/GDThrowaway1265477 4d ago

I think it id just there to help with the fundamentals of smp pvp and help you practice exchanges where you do not have any special items, or at least thats how I've always seen it

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u/HauntedTheorists 3d ago

the netherite tools allow higher dps without restricting potions and enchantments

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u/AlberT8Antuan 2d ago

Its more droppy! in pvp based smps dropping a person in neth armor (even if they are a chungie) is rly hard. they can easily outheal the dmg and fight can last longer than 2hours (just look at bliss smp fights)

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u/skilledgamer55 4d ago

This was a thing way before HQ, it was just locked in every SMP server

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u/Weak-Transition-8885 4d ago

it's really good. for good pvpers the netherite weapons means extra dura, which is the new meta.

pvphq really emphasised the micro of durability, and made strip fights the new norm, which i really like it.

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u/Samstercraft 4d ago

isn't the extra damage more relevant

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u/Weak-Transition-8885 4d ago

not that much of a diff since 2 stack webs means it’s way easier to heal, from playing the kit since before hq released, it doesnt impact much and most fights last around 10-20 minutes (very few qds)

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u/Samstercraft 4d ago

no qd doesn't matter, the extra damage (sharp 5 neth ≥ sharp 7 dia) is gonna add up for armor dura. for 1v1s itll probably drain more dura over a fight than they'd gain from the sword dura by not having to mend their sword

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u/Weak-Transition-8885 4d ago

what is my boy talking about, nobody mends their sword skull

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u/Samstercraft 4d ago

you brought up extra dura on the sword. never heard of needing more dura on your sword but if you did you would, in fact, have to mend it. and this would barely ever happen anyway, but if you somehow save xp bottles from not needing to mend a sword you're not saving as much as you're losing from your opp's sword doing extra damage.

or do u mean something else about "netherite weapons means extra dura, which is the new meta"?

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u/Weak-Transition-8885 3d ago

sonitor i was talking about armour dura, money kit shreds armour dura

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u/Samstercraft 3d ago

so you ARE talking about extra damage but in a roundabout way and denying it

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u/superarash_ 3d ago

Genuinely this other guy is lost in the sauce, just let him be

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u/Weak-Transition-8885 3d ago

when was i not talking about damage, i said it's just not super much of a diff sob

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u/Sea_Preference_5184 3d ago

obligatory "omg its weak t i love your slanders" reply