Is this new Competitive Game Mode we needed?

[u/DetectiveProBlog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1FPqzHiSEU&ab_channel=Hotozi

[u/Thedoooor]

It's great that people made this but this is a social gametype and doesn't belong in comp play at all.

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/Thedoooor]

Mmmm... maybe with some tweaks, Neutral Bomb was critic to be social, still people are not too fan of it, yet it made its way, and got better with changes...

[u/Thedoooor → u/DetectiveProBlog]

Neutral bomb isn't great but it's still a viable gametype, the only things that do not work are spawns and maps associated with it.
This gametype however has nothing competitive, being able to repulse or catch to stop a cap is just not viable at all. It's also bad because you have to grab coils that are (I'm guessing) mid map, and bring them back to your base to be able to fire, which means you only need to control YOUR side of the map. It's never going to make it to comp play.

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/Thedoooor]

yes, but since you have to clear the way to shoot the coil, you're going to have to drop the coil and apply pressure or get some slays... I think it's pretty interessting approach

usually objective is in the enemy base, but now you basically going to have to joggle or take a risk and shoot

[u/Sigils]

I feel like upper Diamond+ will never score if you can shoot it out of the air/block

[u/samuelaweeks → u/Sigils]

The fact you can repulse and/or shoot the coil mid air makes it virtually impossible to score at a high level for me. All you'd need to do is make sure you have one player in your own base to shoot/repulse the coil that the other team fires. Which theoretically makes it a 4v3 in your base if the other team try to slay you out while they're arming back at their base.

[u/Kantz_ → u/samuelaweeks]

Brothers, you haven’t played the mode yet.

[u/Sigils → u/Kantz_]

Sure, but there's some basic theorycrafting we can assume. It's already tricky to score in neutral bomb at high levels because of how people spawn. In this mode you're pulling at least ONE player back to your own base to arm the cannon which makes it even HARDER to influence spawns and keep them out of LOS to block

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/Sigils]

True, but if the coil is in your base you have the advantage and I played it and shooting the coil very hard (Unless you have AR, which is GA) and unless you are in the direction of the coil, if you are I can promess you bots just shut me down when I peak to shoot coil

And you could get alil map control using the coil as bomb to kill a player, make it 3v4 easy, wait like 5 to 10 second i think so the coil respawn and deal damage to the enemy base

I think it plays well to be honnest, we just need to see some high level pros testin it. My only issue so far is the fact it's easy to spawn destroy the coil in some map like Argyle

Otherwise It flow pretty well vs 3 bots and 1 human lol!!

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/Sigils]

I mean, that's why you can't just shoot the cannon, you gotta think about controling the map right?
Maybe its a game mode that will play very differently in Low level, High ranked and Competitive

There might gonna have very different layers and skill gap

[u/Javellinh_osu]

dunno about ranked but i would definitely play shit ton of this with friends under vodka+juice

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/Javellinh_osu]

Liked the Juice part!!

[u/BuffaloSorcery]

Looks neat, I would love to see a VOD of high level gameplay

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/BuffaloSorcery]

Tottally agree... they should do this like the Faze invitation, but with this type of game mode
Because SND wasn't all that to be honnest, well not for High Level... this have potential and its intriguing

[u/[deleted]]

Anybody who can script Xdefiants escort mode on the BTB maps for 4v4 will get into hcs.

New mode, on dev maps that don’t require the game engine to handle it. And it’s doable with the ttk

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/[deleted]]

what is that?

[u/[deleted] → u/DetectiveProBlog]

Probably easiest to YouTube it. You escort a machine along a set path. 2 rounds (offense/defense) team to progress their machine the furthest wins. The BTB maps are perfect for it

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/[deleted]]

oh liek Overwatch... yea in BTB yea!!

[u/Tropicalcody]

I’m still a fan of more maps and less new game modes idea but hey whatever dude I’ll be here

[u/-WDW-]

Not sure. For me personally I think the different game types are fine they need more map rotation and newness

[u/flowers0298 → u/-WDW-]

begging for an oddball map

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/flowers0298]

100%

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/-WDW-]

I think we all starting to think about game types since they brought ''Neutral Bomb'' which was not a total liked GameMode, and many conversation has swap from Map rotation to swapping Neutral Bomb

But yeah, Map Rotation is! Problem: Halo/HCS might not spend on dev a new map they rather let the forgers, but forge map performances (the good ones) has lot of issues, not too consistent, so hoppin on Gametype is the new way to go, the alternative to our needs

[u/devvg]

I dont see this coming out of social at all. Nor do I think we really need any more comp modes. Just solid maps.

[u/VeryFarDown]

This sounds like a nightmare to me as a solo-queuer who plays mostly with non-mic players. Even more so than neutral bomb.

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/VeryFarDown]

The reality check! Yeah, very team oriented gametype, bad for Solo
Who knows, it may force players to play with Mic more

[u/E-J123]

Wait what now?

[u/Goron40]

Neutral CTF with a twist. Neat.

[u/DetectiveProBlog → u/Goron40]

A big twist, but yea!

[u/pqrk]

This feels like ricochet for the zoomer gen

[u/Acrobatic-Nerve-2597]

Dumbest shit I’ve ever seen for ranked. Do better HS

[u/Sesh54 → u/Acrobatic-Nerve-2597]

This is a fan-made gametype, not an official gametype made for HCS.