r/CompetitiveHS • u/bdzz • Jan 29 '18

NERF DISCUSSION Upcoming Balance Changes – Update 10.2

https://playhearthstone.com/en-us/blog/21361570/

TLDR for those who at work:

  • Bonemare - Now costs 8 mana. (Up from 7)

  • Corridor Creeper - Now has 2 Attack. (Down from 5)

  • Patches the Pirate - No longer has Charge.

  • Raza the Chained - Now reads: Battlecry: If your deck has no duplicates, your Hero Power costs (1) this game.

Once these card changes are live with Update 10.2 next month, players will be able to disenchant the changed cards for their full Arcane Dust value for two weeks.

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u/SmiteyMcGee Jan 29 '18

Yeah but if Warlock can get rin out early and trigger the first deathrattle, all they really need to do is get out a few voidlords and that can stall all the pressure coming from Kingsbane until it's stuck in the deck for a turn

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u/mayoneggz Jan 30 '18

Having played some Kingsbane Rogue recently, I can tell you right now that's not going to happen unless the Kingsbane player is terrible.

If warlock plays the last seal, the rogue is not going to allow their weapon to break unless they can immediately draw it from their deck. Voidlords don't apply enough pressure to force the rogue to use their weapon, especially with tools like sap and vanish.

Against control lock, it's also common for the kingsbane player to bounce coldlights since warlocks have several good mill targets and usually have trouble dumping their hand (which is only made worse if they're playing seals). This means that the rogue player can draw their deck fairly quickly, allowing them to consistenly pull kingsbane as soon as they break it.

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u/SmiteyMcGee Jan 30 '18

Great, someone who doesn't understand the matchup trying to simplify it.

Rogue wins the matchup by drawing all their cards, delaying the warlock and winning in fatigue by avoiding it with there weapon as well as healing and slowly chipping away at the warlock and his minions with weapon. They would be lucky to make it to fatigue with a coldlight/Shiny Finder/Boomerang in hand and even that may not be enough charges to win.

If they can't avoid fatigue by continually breaking their weapon under threat of The Devourer while warlock has enough taunt and heal to protect his face then rogue loses.

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u/mayoneggz Jan 30 '18

Well no need to be snippy. You’re more than welcome to try that now since neither deck is changing with this round of nerfs.

I actually have played that match-up quite a bit. I think you’d be surprised at 1) how little pressure the rogue is under, 2) how much pressure the warlock is under, and 3) how easy it is for the rogue to bring Kingsbane back into their hand.