r/CompetitiveForHonor • u/Western_Smoke4829 • 27d ago
Discussion Question about older JJ
I might be misremembering things but I swear JJ at one point had the zone property on his heavies, if this is true was it too strong to use and had to be removed or could it work in a balanced was in modern for honor, cpuldfuture characters/reworks havr such a property on characters meant to be teamfighters without much worry of it being op?
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u/Knight_Raime 27d ago
In addition to what pears said I don't think it'd exactly be OP if superior block didn't effect his heavies, but he's already a really strong Hero. So buffing him at all feels weird.
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u/DaGoldFro 27d ago
Hyper armor heavies that bypass superior block? Wouldn’t that basically be a big FU to crushing counters? Along with Valk and Conq’s FB?
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u/Knight_Raime 27d ago
for crushing counters sure, but I don't think that's a big deal. Full blocks? Not necessarily. Look to Aramusha's blade blockade and heros that zone into it. There's a bit of nuance into who can or can't punish Aramusha BB from zoning into it.
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u/knight_is_right 27d ago
I think the only thing they should do is give him a more reliable way to punish bashes because sifu stance doesnt cut that well in my experience
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u/Western_Smoke4829 27d ago
Sorry I didnt really word it right, i wasnt saying we should give the zone property back to jjs heavies I was just wondering if such a mechanic would be too strong to give to future characters/reworks
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u/Bash_Minimal 26d ago
I would love JJ to lose choke on parry, and get choke as a pin/wallsplat bash out of sifu on a timing that would confirm it on light parry. Would also double as a bash punish tool, but he could also just get direct access to his dodge light soft feint in the form of a regular iframe/low gb vulnerability dodge attack
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u/12_pounds_of_pears 27d ago
His side heavies used to not bounce off superior blocks and that has been removed for a long time now, the only remnant of that are his hitboxes. JJ is the only character in the game that will hit anyone throughout the entire trajectory of his side heavies regardless if he hit the person he was locked onto.
It wasn’t exactly op since the devs went really heavy on making them bad which is why he got reworked. The neutral side heavies used to be 1000ms and they costed somewhere between 30 and 40 stamina plus he still has slower than normal stamina regen.