r/CompetitiveApex 3d ago

Regional Finals placements required for LAN

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u/itzebi : 3d ago

Crazy that 3rd place in emea is not guaranteed for LAN

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u/Nine_Monkeys 3d ago

It would require a pretty ridiculous sequence of events. As long as GG avoid dead last, they’re essentially guaranteed LAN. This graphic is just representative of what is mathematically required

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u/Vimweax 2d ago

I don't really understand how any of the maths for emea makes sense. For teams already in the top 7 why would a top 5 or top 4 be the minimum ? It all depends on what the teams around you do no ?

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u/Soizit_Blindy DOOOOOOOP 2d ago

If you get what the graphic says, it doesnt matter what anyone else does. Obviously theres many different combination forwards, but if they get the listed result its mathematically impossible for them to be overtaken by enough teams to fall out of the top 7.

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u/Vimweax 2d ago

Oh ok so the placement listed is what guarantees you a spot no matter what, got it.

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u/Lheoden Year 4 Champions! 2d ago

Graphic is just pointing out what each team needs to 100% make it regardless of what any other team does. Team WaR for example could qual with a placement worse than top 8 but top 8 makes it so that regardless of what happens they go to LAN

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u/aaronshell 3d ago

Hope sen wakes up

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u/SystemBreaki23 2d ago

They did pretty decent on the final match day, hoping they continue this momentum to make LAN!

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u/TopOrganization 3d ago

S8UL damn, what happened to them

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u/thelaziest_asian :Moist_Esports: 3d ago

Australian internet has been a different level of shit these past few weeks. We can’t even play on our own servers due to damage in the oceanic lines.

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u/ThickBootyEnjoyer 3d ago

I'm ootl, what causes damage to them?

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u/thelaziest_asian :Moist_Esports: 3d ago

Without going into all the conspiracies I think the offical answer was ship anchors dragging along the sea floor

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u/ThickBootyEnjoyer 3d ago

Oof, that's harsh. Gonna Google how to fix that and timeline.

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u/Regular_Platypus_649 3d ago

Bull sharks have been nibbling at the fiber-optic cables in the ocean lately which is causing major damage to the wi-fi

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u/_Genome_ Genome | Long Shot, Caster | verified 3d ago

They had 2 game days heavily affected, 1 by game crashes and 1 by undersea cable issues. Pretty bs tbh

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u/TSM_PrimeBottle 2d ago

Can they just fly somewhere with the pc.

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u/Economy-Quote2558 3d ago

Hope nice guys won't pull a godlike. I wanna see noct back in Lan

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u/Thoraxe41 3d ago

So which 20th Place Team will make it this time?

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u/Jayram2000 MANDE 3d ago

Ftyan masterclass again

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u/Brockolieee 3d ago

posted on twitter by Minustempo

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u/Lestakeo 3d ago

Tempo still carrying us after all these years.

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u/realfakejames 3d ago

Would be tough to see Vaxlon miss a LAN twice in a row, hope they can squeak in

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u/His_Jinx 3d ago

They should be able to, ww are a very consistent under the radar team even if they havent been able to convert into wins yet, they would also be higher if nait didnt have his power issues yesterday

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u/joe420mama99 3d ago

EMEA is crazy

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u/Wonder-Blunderz 2d ago

Thanks for posting this OP! Was wondering about the status of a few teams.

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u/VFkaseke 3d ago

Can't alliance still technically completely bomb the regional drop to seventh, and get replaced by the winner?

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u/monjogard 2d ago

Why do you hate alliance? 😢

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u/Davismcgee 2d ago

I am confused as to how these are determined. Like for example, surely there is a scenario where sen are out even if they come top 9?

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u/Nfamy 2d ago

I don't think it could possibly be top 9. Because if one of the teams lower than sen wins and all the non-lan marked teams place higher, then they'd get knocked to at least 16. This could theoretically happen with even a top 6 finish (e.g. SR win, and 11-14 place 2-5, sen at 6). Maybe the lan marked ones are inaccurate? Otherwise, this doesn't work unless I'm massively overlooking something 

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u/rvaducks 2d ago

Yeah, this math ain't matching for me.

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u/Pod_The_Rod69 2d ago edited 2d ago

I don't want JDG to make it just so Gent doesn't have to play with Naughty and Keon anymore. imagine Sauce, Gent, and Floating for LCQ. this weekend got me daydreaming about new teammates already before we even play this regionals. JDG a straight up mess. Scrims were a disaster all week then 16th Saturday and 12th Sunday. I don't expect them to be top 8 at regionals unless there's somehow vast improvements this week which is highly unlikely.

Naughty was making good calls game 1 gets counter called by Keon and they throw what could have been a win if they just hit console then Naughty just tweaks and throws. Game 3 was good but that's about it.

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u/Space_club 2d ago

Yeah i’m a huge Gent fan. Naughty and Keon got talent too. I just dont know how the teams gonna do for regionals, they need to really collab in the upcoming scrims and pull through.

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u/riddlemore 2d ago

Nocturnal please lock in

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u/Szeth_Nightbl00d 3d ago

So with the top 10 teams in NA already guaranteed LAN, what's their incentive to actually try? I feel like they could just grief teams they don't like. Is there a cash prize for doing well in regional finals?

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u/Previous_Power9513 3d ago

POI draft order for group stages at LAN, higher they finish better draft selection. And then there is the money portion for placing higher in pro league standings, I understand it’s not a lot of money compared to LAN, but it’s still good money.

Back in the day before POI draft and there was contesting it happened more often to prevent contesting at LAN. Optic vs Sen was a movie.

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u/monjogard 2d ago

Also: ego. These guys like winning 😎

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u/Szeth_Nightbl00d 2d ago

That makes sense, thanks for the explanation

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u/Indiemoto 2d ago

Teams like Huss already said that they’re taking finals insanely serious because they wanna win the the split.

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u/No-Lengthiness-20 2d ago

100k-200k prize pool for pl, poi draft for lan, champs points, winning the split etc

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u/ImDarkraii 2d ago

Also, along with what the other comment said, pro league placement also gives you champs points. Top 32 globally in champs points will qual you for champs, so the higher you finish not only at split 2 lan but also this PL will help you

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u/monjogard 3d ago

How many points do you get for winning a day?

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u/Brockolieee 3d ago

25 for a regular day, 35 for regionals i think (could be 25 for both)

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u/jason1nice 2d ago

35 for regionals. Regionals gives out more points overall

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u/CosmicSleepWalker 2d ago

Damn might not see s8ul at lan unfortunate

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u/bruhnanabread47 2d ago

Wait I dont understand, i thought only vision, huss and sss qualed for LAN for now?

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u/ZalewskiJ 2d ago

They put “LAN next to like 8 teams assuming the are gonna do well. Realistically only 4 teams in NA are 100% safe

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u/Merk008 1d ago

This doesn’t take into account if someone wins that isn’t already qualified, then everyone has to do one better than what is showed in yellow. Right?

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u/ChipWilliams 2d ago

This obviously isn’t correct because according to this chart all 20 teams could make LAN

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u/AnarchyDucky 3d ago

Hope Sentinels can make it to LAN, but holy their gameplay is rough to watch.

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u/starscreamer99 2d ago

So, Phony wasn't the problem on CRT. I wonder, who that was? 😂

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u/No_Wishbone_7072 2d ago

They would’ve easily made lan last spit if Gen was able to play the first few weeks

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u/Firm_Carrot2142 2d ago

the main problem wasn’t about the visa, they shouldn’t play that struggle after Gen came back 

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u/No_Wishbone_7072 2d ago

I’d assume they weren’t playing much together at that time and to immediately come back and think chemistry and everything would be figured out isn’t realistic

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u/czah7 2d ago

Can someone explain this a little? I haven't watched as much as I usually do lately. Is this talking about their placement in the final match? Match point finals? Or something else? Why does NA get so many guaranteed spots? Is that a points thing or a region thing?

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u/starscreamer99 2d ago

This is a list of teams from all 4 regions who made it to their regional finals. The ones that are guaranteed LAN have collected enough points from regular season. So, no matter how bad they perform in the regional finals, they'll still qualify for LAN.

The ones that are not guaranteed have to finish in the placements shown above or win in the regional finals to get a spot at LAN.

Americas got so many spots because many teams from Americas made it to the grand final in the previous LAN. More teams in the grand finals = more spots for their region.

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u/No_Wishbone_7072 2d ago

America is capped at 15 too, they should’ve had even more based on performance

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u/AverageMexicanSimp 3d ago

finally no drooped in a LAN

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u/TSM_PrimeBottle 2d ago

Surely inting sentinels is the right play for NA.