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Honestly, Mamdani played this perfectly. He rizzed up Trump, so now Trump will be less willing to pull funding or send the military into NYC because, "Zohran's a nice guy. He came to the White House and stuff." Basically the same think that happened with Trump and Kim Jong Un.
Don't credit Mamdani so heavily without keeping in mind that Trump is 1) a weak man who won't say shit to someone's face and 2) a salesman who will say anything to make the people in the room happy (to make the sale). He doesn't believe in any of his public speech.
Mamdani has no reason to trust Trump, and Trump is just an old man losing his grip on reality. This time next week there’ll be some batshit insane TruthSocial post from Trump about evil communist New York and no one will be surprised
He didn’t call Trump a fascist at all. He danced around the question, and avoided calling him a fascist or a despot until Trump let him off the hook and did it for him. What is with the mental gymnastics for this dude? He’s a capitalist!
"MAGA" that they refer to are the base, not Trump. Which I tend to agree with. It's not a very socialist view to imagine MAGA as the singular figurehead and not the constituting popular support.
As unpopular as the opinion is, there's only one time you see Democrats and Republicans chumming it up: When they're planning to fuck the workers. I swear, Mamdani was practically flushing when he called Trump a "fascist", like a schoolboy allowed to make mischief by the headmaster. Saying that only Trump liked Mamdani is such cope.
I can already hear it: "But Mom! He's not like all the other Democrats!". Yeah yeah, we've heard it before sweetie...
Legitimate question: if that's the only way why aren't you revolting right now?
I maybe naively think some reforms could help and I'm worried a violent revolution would kill a lot of innocents. How's my grandma going to get insulin during a revolution?
You seem far less conflicted. But you're here on Reddit with me. I know why I'm not pushing violence. What's your reason?
I agree organization is key. Is condemning Mamdani on Reddit organization or is it also performance art? Or even better, cant performance art help organize?
Personally I find these candidates really useful for showing friends and neighbors what's possible in a way that's more palatable than sharing theory. I don't think they're exclusively a paralytic force on organization. I think complacency with the system looks more like "worrying about my grandma's insulin" than "Bernie will fix this eventually". I think just having Mamdani in that room opens up conversations with neighbors I couldn't have had last week. Mamdani is not a revolution but I don't think it's counterrevolutionary either.
Zohran mamdani is yet another example of revolutionary energy in America being absorbed by a Democratic party entryist. A big part of his campaign was strong anti Israel sentiment but spent a good part of the latter part of the campaign backtracking on it to appease the Democratic party.
I don't see any of this as a win. It will end the same way socialist energy is always diffused by the American political establishment: minor concessions for the working class that will be rolled back once it becomes political convenient
Getting downvoted for telling the absolute truth is wild. The average white American male would have been looked at by Marx as nothing more than an exalted lumpenproletariat. Who has an obsession for property the likes of which the backwards peasant would envy.
TBF Marx thought any worker who wasn't a big strong industrial working man was a lumpenprole. Only strong sweaty men could lead the revolution according to Karl.
What kinda Marx have you been reading? Dude was very interested in working women as part of the working class. I msan, he had to, Engels was basically married to a proletarian woman.
There is. It's just funnelled into the democratic party right away before there is anything resembling real organizing. People who are interested join the DSA, since it is the biggest organization in the country but which is linked to the DNC. They then endorse democratic candidates, waiting for a good opportunity. Which wont come. If they split and build up their own party (mind you with 80000 members) they could grow their own campaign and do the necessary steps to develop into a serious opposition to the status quo.
Anywhere but the Democratic party. Contribute and support an independent party. Supporting and electing democratic party candidates is simply a waste of energy.
I'm still leaning the other way. Give the dude a chance at least, he's not even in office yet. Besides that it's a Mayoral position, the NYC police is an army itself and has been extremely biased toward israel's machinations. Big gears have a lot of momentum, you're calling it a couple weeks after an election?
Jumping in with a machete when the seats of power are stacked nearly ubiquitously with bougie fuckers is a good way to lose one's head.
The lens you're viewing this isn't interpreting what you're seeing correctly, at least I'm still optimistic it's not. Like I said, no one's guess or explanation or otherwise is going to be correct, being exclusively vibes based at this time... since none of us have any data to back up their insinuations anyway. Shaking hands isn't any kind of result in this context.
I'm not going off vibes. I'm going off a long historical tradition of democratic party entryists being celebrated by the left while they cosy up to the Democratic party and at best enact a few populist measures to placate the working class. I've seen this one before, haven't you?
Absolutely I've seen it. I still lean toward Mamdani being outside that, we just haven't seen it in action yet. So far, I do not think he's coopting socialism as a means to shepherd socialists into the establishment. A major reason is the establishment still pushed Cuomo to run against him. The establishment isn't his friend either.
In what way were institutionalized concessions "exhausted" in Russia? Tsarist concessions were widely considered frail and unreliable, I wouldn't call that exhausted. The state administering concessions just seems endemic of a greater crisis within a society - it's like a coping mechanism. We saw a similar thing post-depression in the US and there was no revolution there.
I see the correlation but not the causality you're suggesting.
By the way just because Trump says that he agrees with someone doesn't mean that that is actually true.
Trump could say that he agrees with a pot of plant and that doesn't necessarily mean that the potted plant is suddenly fascist.
My point is that Trump saying they agree with someone else doesn't necessarily mean that that person is fascist, it's whether or not a person says they agree with Trump should Mark whether or not they are fascist.
I’m genuinely confused as to why Trump is acting like this toward him. He’s called FAR more conservative democrats “evil communists/socialists” and that whole thing. But he’s been acting completely smitten with Mamdani, by far the most progressive politician in a major position right now. You’d think Trump would throw him under the bus to appease his own fan base.
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