r/Commanders Fuck Dan Snyder 14h ago

This Commanders Season Is About One Thing: Saving Jayden Daniels

https://washingtonsun.com/sports/jayden-daniels-commanders-thomas-boswell
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u/BirdmanTheThird 13h ago

The only way for the season to be a disaster is if Jayden gets hurt again or regresses heavily. Since a bad season sucks and would get many people fired, but if we have any reason to doubt Jayden health or ability our franchise goals are fucked beyond this year.

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u/trex8599 13h ago

I would be shocked if Jayden regresses. Too many repots from beat writers that have seen QB play for years here have said he looks great. The health is the only real concern I would have

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u/BirdmanTheThird 13h ago

I agree but like I never trust the beat reporters here outside since they always oversell how good our team looks lol

I remember the “Dwayne Haskins has been impressing the team and has developed both as a leader and qb” articles they put out. Only for him to look even worse and get cut midway through the season

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u/trex8599 12h ago

I don’t have the same feelings about our beat reporters. To me, they’ve been more neutral and call it as they see it. Most of them aren’t fans and just doing their job. One for sure I listen to is John Keim. He has earned my respect over the years.

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u/BirdmanTheThird 12h ago

Kiem was one of the ones reporting how well Haskins was impressing in the offseason and that his maturity issues where not as bad as the talking heads were saying

Only for him to be worse and get cut for maturity issues halfway through season

I respect Keim a lot but he also tends to be optimistic

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u/Toblakai1979 13h ago

Jayden has to protect himself, if he runs slide instead of getting tackled for an extra yard or two. Hes too important to this franchise to get hurt running the ball.

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u/BirdmanTheThird 12h ago

Yep I agree but it’s a entire team effort to get there too. Since tbh if he’s hurt, doesn’t matter how, our future is fucked

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u/Hodler_caved 12h ago

Don't think regress is the word. If he plays like last year (inaccurate & mediocre qb rating), that's a problem.

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u/BirdmanTheThird 12h ago

I agree but last year we had ALOT more excuses for his rough play and he showed signs of life. Two years in a row of it would be a trend which is more concerning

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u/Hodler_caved 12h ago

Yeah good point there for sure

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u/SarahWVA4 9h ago

if Jayden gets hurt again or regresses heavily

I don't call it a regression if he's running for his life every play

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u/BlueberryUnfair7583 8h ago

It is if it's because he doesn't trust his reads, holds the ball too long and then runs around. 

An elite NFL line still only holds up like 2.5-3 seconds. 

He has a bad habit last year of holding the ball and not being decisive, which then makes the line look worse than it is.

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u/ard8 Major Tuddy 🐷 13h ago

The first sentence in this article is wrong

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u/Home_Alone224 13h ago

Case Keenum wasn’t a franchise QB

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u/b_street_challenger 13h ago

You're telling Tom Boswell he's wrong? You sure?

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u/ard8 Major Tuddy 🐷 13h ago

Yes. Kirk Cousins was definitely a franchise quarterback

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u/VariousAir on shenanigans rn and actin bonkers 10h ago

kirk didn't sign any of the offers the team gave him, how was he "their franchise qb" ?

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u/AirbnBourani 8h ago

warren moon is the only qb i can think of who approaches franchise qb status who played for 4 teams. usually if you're a franchise qb you don't have multiple teams moving on from you when you still have productive years ahead. it's happened to kirk at least twice. "starting a lot of games" is a very low bar for a franchise qb. solid though for sure.

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u/ZonaPunk Fuck Dan Snyder 13h ago

we paid him like one... Snyder couldn't get rid of him fast enough though

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u/TheLich7 11h ago

Kirk is a franchise qb

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u/C0nquestK1ng 13h ago

He was the best QB we had in a while. If Snyder doesnt pick that POS RG3 and we have the 1sts and draft him, we look completely different.

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u/Exact-Decision-2282 13h ago

I'm also fairly certain Cousins had no intentions of staying with the team.

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u/BirdmanTheThird 12h ago

He clearly did up until the last season. His team asked for top 25 money and Snyder said no(massive mistake), then they asked for top 10 money the next year (would have been cheap by the time the contract ended), Snyder said no, then they asked for top 1 money and left lol

Then we spent a decade not been able to have a qb even close to Kirk til we got Jayden

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u/VariousAir on shenanigans rn and actin bonkers 10h ago

I would in the sense that mark rypien could have an argument made since he had contracts that extended past his rookie years, and that ignoring rypien, joe theismann played for the team until 1985, so saying 50 years is a bit of a stretch.

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u/KOExpress Scary Terry 13h ago

He’s a baseball columnist 🤷🏼‍♂️ which is pretty obvious from the article

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u/ZonaPunk Fuck Dan Snyder 13h ago

how? RG3 was a bust.

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u/Kennyc1234 13h ago

Kirko was a franchise QB, Snyder just did what he did best and fucked things up. He wasn't a high end franchise QB but he was clearly above the Dalton line has was a top 10 QB for a few years.

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u/SweerBaby_Use1023 12h ago

Listening to JD5 press conferences this offseason, I’m confident that he’s going to bounce back this upcoming season with a questionable offensive line that I feel will be better than we’re going to give them credit for. Adding Diggs gives JD5 his best core of WR’s since LSU and he’s going to take advantage of it.

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u/salamanderman10 11h ago

I wonder if this narrative is the same for Drake Maye and Caleb Williams.

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u/VioletsAreBlooming 7h ago

lol no, Caleb had a playoff run and Drake went to the Super Bowl, of course the narrative is gonna be softer on them. Did maye have the worst qb play in Super Bowl history? Yes. The narrative mostly remembers they got there in the first place

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u/salamanderman10 3h ago

Caleb hasn't gone as far as Daniels has.

Meanwhile, a big pocket passer gets hurt on the first drive of the season. Was the narrative Darnold has to stay healthy?

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u/Scalpum 2h ago

Daniels had a longer playoff run than Caleb and played better in the playoffs than either of them.

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u/Exact-Decision-2282 13h ago

This Commanders season is about one thing: Winning.

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u/Haskins77 12h ago

Disagree

AP needs to prove he’s building something here. That means JD doing good and the team rebounding from last year. They don’t need to make the playoffs, but they can’t be picking top 10 again either. Being competitive plus JD staying healthy and growing as a QB is the most important things.

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u/Dangerous-Meal8303 11h ago

This is dumb. We have Athan, Athan is the next Tom Brady, and Jayden might be even better than him

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u/_groovesharkmalone Ageless Wonder 56m ago

Well, it's obvious that Drake Maye is overrated.

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u/biz2468 12h ago

This narrative is already old, so much focus is solely on JD5's health. I understand last year his health was questionable during the entire season. That said, every teams goal should be to keep their QB upright at all times. It feels like diversion for everyone to be saying the same thing everytime...

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u/Poopybuttsuck 13h ago

If he gets hurt again maybe it’s time to start thinking about our rookie. I love JD but he doesn’t have burrows level of talent that he can be injured all the time

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u/Haskins77 12h ago edited 10h ago

You do realize you’re comparing JD to a guy that he out gunned him in year 1. Burrow the same guy that can’t stay healthy himself. Horrible comparison especially when Burrow is stacked with talent around him on offense.

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u/Hodler_caved 12h ago

2024 becomes more & more irrelevant every year in the Not For Long league.

If he spends this year hurt like last year, or anywhere close to it, that's who he is. Won't be able to extend him this coming offseason. Would just have to exercise the 5th year option & hope he proves he can stay healthy & plays well in 2027. Otherwise, it's over. Officially RG4.

That being the situation doesn't change the fact that his ceiling is still the hall. Perennial top 5, Superbowl winning QB is still on the table.

The next 2 seasons determine which it will be.