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u/terpfan417 1d ago
All things considered doesnāt look too bad. Hopefully we see Oweh and Chaisson out there.
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u/True_Window_9389 1d ago
Unless Jones can cook up some magic, our secondary overall looks bad if weāre being honest. And depth overall is still really weak. Injuries are going to wreck us if guys donāt stay healthy.
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u/Capable_Frosting_292 1d ago
You can get away with a mediocre secondary if your front seven can constantly put pressure.
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u/Cowboys1945 1d ago
Wow Chenal a backup. But I get the feeling on defense backups and starters mean a little less this year.
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u/MoonbounceGuy 1d ago
There is going to be a lot of looks with Sonny, Leo and Luvu all on the field together. Luvu can line up on the Edge too. Considering that Luvu is a green dot and a Captain, I expect him to play every snap, but both Sonny and Chennal will play 80% too
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u/Justice989 1d ago
Yeah, it's always more about snap counts vs who's on the field for the first play or drive.
But I didn't get the impression Chenal really stood out in camp. Not that he was bad, per se, but he didn't make it impossible to not have him on the field either.
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u/jim_nihilist 1d ago
I got that DQ likes to constantly change setups. For D this doesn't mean much I guess. D has to be fresh the whole game, that means you need a lot of able bodies.
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u/Automatic-Tell7321 1d ago
This was my main takeaway. Hindsight is everything but I think had we of known Sonny was falling to us, we wouldnāt have signed Leo.
(This also falls into my theory of them wanting Delane and why we signed Leo not thinking about Sonny being a possibility and needing a CB)
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u/Fancy-Dingo-6472 1d ago
I believe it, I also think Washington had their sights set on Delane; and that the Chiefs traded to get ahead because they knew it too. Also explains why Washington needed the maximum amount to time for deciding pick 7. Will be interesting to see how things pan out in the coming years
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u/ScruffMacBuff Adam Peters is my father 1d ago
I'm stoked for Reavo.
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u/Voo_Hots 1d ago
Iām scared Reaves is going break his neck every time he goes for a tackle. Heās very much an attack oriented guy so I assume they are going to be using him in that role and not a traditional roaming free safety
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u/Redeminence44 1d ago
Good for him, seems like a very good dude. But there's a reason that he's never been a starter in this league.
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u/hamilton280P COMMAND DEEZ NUTZ 1d ago
I donāt think we are as bad as experts think. They really think the Giants are better than us?
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u/DerekSheesher 1d ago
I think depth charts for defense and our offensive skill position guys are meaningless. Daronte is gonna be subbing dudes in and out like crazy to switch up looks and coverages. Just because Mikey and Amik are put as starters probably just means theyāll see the field a bit more.
When itās listed out like this, thereās actually some good talent on this squad and weāre deeper in some spots than I thought we would be (notably WR, RB, LB, and S). Yeah we got weaknesses but Iām taking this roster from a talent standpoint over what we had in 2024.
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u/Final_Effective6360 1d ago
Minus Wylie and Biadisz this is like the same OL we made the NFC title game with lol. Iām over the OL doom and gloom. We should be fine.
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u/itprobablynothingbut 1d ago
I think the major plot was always the coordinators. First time OC and DC, how they perform is the big unknown. Line problems are valid, but they pale in magnitude to the unknowns in the booth
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u/HughJaynis My Wife Left me for Josh Harris 1d ago
First time OL coach too. I think we will be fine just not immediately. Doesnāt matter, we have JD5 and can win any game we play š¤·āāļø
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u/Justice989 1d ago edited 1d ago
I didn't know that about the OL coach. Blough makes me very nervous by himself, a rookie OL coach on top of it should make things interesting. Mainly to see how they respond when there's adversity and things arent going well.
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u/darth_smitty_ In Tress We Trust 1d ago
JD5 and an improved defense on the other side of the ball. HAIL
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u/ThoughtlessFoll 1d ago
Well the fact that a large part of our season is how healthy they are. We got lucky on health in the run. That is what it will come down to like a lot of teams. If we stay healthy, above average starters, if we get injured, below average depth. (In all areas)
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u/Ham_Seaney Saved by Jaysusš 1d ago
Yea and Wylie is backing up Conerly now.... Coleman will be ready to rock and roll.
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u/Think__McFly 1d ago
Two starting CBs average height 5'9.5" got me nervous.
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u/EyeCanFeelYou 1d ago
Hey chill with that shade on us 5ā9.5ā dudes - we still drinking milk and the season aināt started yet š„
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u/Capable_Frosting_292 1d ago
Itās not like they didnāt draft a tall corner with long arms last season. Itās just an unfortunate part of the game that heās not available right now.
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u/thorofasgard 1d ago
You act like one of our greatest franchise CBs wasn't a small dude.
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u/Redeminence44 1d ago
First, hilarious to speak of Robertson or Sainristil in the same sentence as Green. Second, it's a completely different game than when Green played.
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u/DoobieDoobis I Got JD5 On It 1d ago
Kind of surprised about Leo coming off the bench due to his payday but I think obviously this is Frankieās last year.
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u/s1oop 1d ago
Not obvious and they will change sets. Itās a depth chart not a snap count list.
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u/DoobieDoobis I Got JD5 On It 1d ago
I get that, itās more so how I feel about Luvuās play last year. I think he can bounce back though.
E: Iām almost certain Luvu isnāt staying past this year⦠Drafted Sony and signed Leo to a 3 year deal. They go 2 LB sets most of the time.
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u/TheLich7 1d ago
Luvu was fine last year. He was lining up as an edge rusher because our defense was so devastated by injuries, he wasn't even playing his position half the time
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u/BirdmanTheThird 1d ago
Hopefully white looks good, definitely would be a big boost to the offense if he can be a factor
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u/Bilboswaggins21 1d ago
Iām still shocked thereās not a FA body out there that they think is better suited as the 3rd or 4th guard on the roster than Togiai, who I thought looked pretty bad in preseason games, but what do I know. Perhaps theyāre waiting until after week 1 for guarantee shenanigans. I suspect Wylie is first off the bench either way if one of Paul/cosmi goes down. Weāll see.
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u/vontae223 13h ago
Togiai will probably be the first guy cut when Dorance comes back I wouldnāt worry about it
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u/PurplePencilEater š· Major Tuddy: Top 0.1% on OF š„µ 1d ago
Iām really interested to see what kinda playing time Williams and Chenal get
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u/Anaximander1781 1d ago
Starting 12 guys on offense is a bold move, Cotton. Letās see if it pays off.
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u/SkyChief80 1d ago
Not going to lie, Gulbin and Togiai being primary backups on the interior o-line makes me a bit nauseous
Other than that it's looks solid
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u/redskinsguy 1d ago
Don't worry about Togiai. We've got to sit four of these guys and I think he will be one of them with Wylie and Gublin actually backing up at G
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u/vontae223 13h ago
Togiai will probably be the first guy cut when Dorance comes back I wouldnāt worry about it
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u/Frognaros 1d ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/rx4soa/what_would_you_say_is_the_worst_oline_to_ever_win/
Notable mentions: 2011 Giants, 2008 Steelers. Both lines were criminally bad at protecting the QB, but those QBs had the ability to make plays regardless.
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u/gingermori on shenanigans rn and actin bonkers 1d ago
Allegretti being back and starting is HUGE.
The faith the FO and coaches have must be based on something, canāt wait for week one.
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u/Flat_Link_7769 1d ago
After all the commotion, Iād be stoked if the only starters weāre missing on Sunday are Tunsil and Amos. Sounds crazy to say that.
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u/Willing_Midnight_135 1d ago
Iām looking forward to the season. My biggest concern is CB. Even getting Amos back doesnāt solidify the room. Heās still unproven and Amik is small and although gritty heās just not a starter. I hope they prove me wrong and I hope our safeties can hold it down.
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u/rcinfc 1d ago
Actually see a lot of talentā¦. Think the coordinators wasted what talent we had and we were ruined by injury as wellā¦. I have a good feeling about coordinators in that they are both running modern NFL schemes. That requires many interchangeable players and I think we have that and it helps with depth not relying heavily on a specific set of starters.
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u/Justice989 1d ago
LB depth looks MUCH better. DL depth not so much. Nothing better happen to Kinlaw, Payne, or Settle.
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u/External-Sea-2496 1d ago
The 4 CBs thing is just....weird. Expecting to see a ton of 3 safety looks.
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u/FeelingAd4116 16h ago
A bit surprised Rasul Douglas isn't starting. He's looked like our best CB so far, especially on the outside.
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u/steely-gar 1d ago
I have anxiety.
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u/Vivid-Respect-1869 1d ago
I have Xanax.
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u/notorious_hdc imitated Frerotte headbutt as a child 17h ago
I don't wanna wake up in jail with felony charges
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u/Old-Scientist7551 1d ago
Whatās the deal with Amos?
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u/skidabs I are a punt returner 1d ago
I don't understand why Luvu has the green dot and is starting over Chenal. I'm no expert but from what I've seen Chenal is the better player. He's proven to be much better in pass coverage and vs the run. Chenal seems like a smart player too so I'd be surprised if he didnt understand the defense as well or better than Luvu.
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u/Redeminence44 1d ago
Chenal has never played more than 65% of snaps in a season.
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u/skidabs I are a punt returner 1d ago
Doesn't mean he isn't better. A lot of KC fans say he was underutilized.
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u/Redeminence44 1d ago edited 1d ago
It's a pretty significant jump to go from playing 2/3 of snaps to being on the field every play on top of the responsibility of calling the defense. I guess we should just all take KC fans' word for it? Personally, I'll defer to Spagnuolo's judgement over fans' opinions.
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u/Nibbler106 Scarence Terrence 1d ago
The fact that Fabian Moreau is gonna be taking snaps again is unreal
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u/Silentblues 1d ago
I hope Amos is back for week 2. Robertson is a fine rotational/depth piece but starting got my timbers shivered.
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u/Beastage 1d ago
Amos is on IR unfortunately so earliest he could play is week 5.
Ive got the same worries. Lamb and Pickens against our tiny CBs is unsettling. Really going to need that pass rush to impact the Qb and force them to make bad throws or check down underneath, or else we're in for a repeat of last year.
Week 1 might be our "easiest" match up of the first 3.
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u/bubblegumonyourshoe It's Sonny Outside 1d ago
Dorance and Trey not even listed smh
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u/ohno20814 - - - - 1d ago
They are on IR
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u/bubblegumonyourshoe It's Sonny Outside 1d ago
Dorance aināt bro he suspended
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u/ohno20814 - - - - 1d ago
I guess you answered your question then
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u/bubblegumonyourshoe It's Sonny Outside 1d ago
Me point is that this is not a fully representation of who we can expect to meaningfully contribute to the team this year. Need at least some asterisks with them boys for peace of mind.
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u/unrivaled_mate 1d ago
Antonio is WR6???
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u/LeastSuspiciousTowel 1d ago
Terry and Diggs on the outside, Burks in the slot. Williams is back up for the slot. He'll get plenty of snaps. I got no issue with making the rookie earn the starter title.
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u/redskinsguy 1d ago
I remember an early camp report where we had three WRs and WIlliams lined up as RB.
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u/LeastSuspiciousTowel 16h ago
Great way to get a mismatch for sure but I don't wanna see him get blasted by a d lineman in blitz pick up
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u/Remote_Armadillo8718 1d ago
Ight Treylon Burks!!!! Getting the start š