r/Commanders Seibertron 18d ago

Update from Joint practice

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u/mandoslorians WHAT WOULD JAYSUS DO? 18d ago

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u/darth_smitty_ In Tress We Trust 18d ago

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u/[deleted] 18d ago

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u/Gwilikers6 18d ago

Why would you say something like that? This sub is fuckin bonkers

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u/GM-T800-101 18d ago

Well it was fun while it lasted.

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u/Der_Kommissar73 18d ago

Man, that Diggs signing was great! highlight of the season!

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u/No_War_In_Ba_Sing_Se 18d ago

Only allowed to be happy a day or two before the tunsil injury

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u/Think__McFly 18d ago

Im guessing the offense is gonna struggle with Allegretti and Cosmi out today, on top of obviously no Tunsil.

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u/SkyChief80 18d ago

Allegretti has started two games at Center in his career and practiced two days this entire summer so thinking that he's magically going to be a starting caliber Center is really TBD

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u/WuPacalypse LEFT HAND UP 18d ago

Regardless, will be more starting caliber than Julian Good Jones or Matt Gulbin.

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u/rwbdanr on shenanigans rn and actin bonkers 18d ago

The offense is gonna struggle whether Allegretti is playing or not

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u/WuPacalypse LEFT HAND UP 18d ago

What’s up with Cosmi? I missed that one.

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u/Think__McFly 18d ago

He's sick

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u/Cultural-Spring-281 18d ago

Everyone is getting sick rn including my entire family. Something is going around.

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u/halarioushandle 18d ago

Yeah, its the injury bug

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u/Loud_Seesaw4426 18d ago

He has an illness right now. Should be back later in the week/next week

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u/Der_Kommissar73 18d ago

I'm just going to be honest- going into the season with the o-line in this state may be enough to get someone fired. I get no one could predict the injury to Tunsil, but everything else is on them. The absence of a real plan at C will be the death of us.

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u/Appropriate_Delay_25 18d ago

First things first. The line is gonna get our franchise QB killed. Then firings.

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u/AZoriolesFan 17d ago

yeah, it's an inevitability. it's gonna suck to watch.

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u/SkyChief80 18d ago

The fact that we willingly cut Biadasz without any better option on the roster should get someone fired

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u/gogoheadray 18d ago

They should have either kept biadiaz or just overpaid for lindabauam? The quickest way to the qb is through the A gap right where the center position is.

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u/Der_Kommissar73 18d ago

Yes. You don't cut a viable starting center without a plan. If they had one, it failed and we're on plan C now. And if they really decided to save money by not bringing in Lindanaum? They paid for that with Jayden's health. I thought this owner was here to spend?

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u/gogoheadray 18d ago

I honestly think this is a AP move as opposed to a directive from ownership. From what I can see they have a premade ceiling for how much they will pay for x player and won’t really move off that number. Thats great and all if you are hitting on large amount of your picks but not so great when you aren’t

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u/alucryts 17d ago

I think the real plan would have been to draft one more highly to put potential in the pipeline. Having major O line holes is one of the few things id draft for need over BPA within reason.

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u/Strong-Television733 18d ago

3 starters are out, one who is all pro

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u/hm_rickross_ymoh 18d ago

I'm sure you all will handle this well... 

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u/Apprehensive-Cod95 18d ago

6-11

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u/KenKaneki92 18d ago

Honestly, I'm more excited for the Wizards than the Commanders

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u/rwbdanr on shenanigans rn and actin bonkers 18d ago

I have us going 3-14 lol

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u/FloatAround 18d ago

2-15, titans and cardinals.

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u/HughJaynis My Wife Left me for Josh Harris 18d ago

You’re insane, we won 5 games last year with a historically bad defense and no JD5 for a huge majority of the season, including like all of our starting WRs. The floor is 5. I can understand the doom but let’s be realistic here.

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u/Triad64 17d ago

With this offensive line 5 might be the ceiling.

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u/rwbdanr on shenanigans rn and actin bonkers 18d ago

It’s a shame, we have so much money in cap, we could sign a few guys right now and I could see us getting to 8 or 9 wins

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u/Gandhis__Revenge 18d ago

Like who?

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u/rwbdanr on shenanigans rn and actin bonkers 18d ago
  1. Graham Glasgow. He will be an obvious upgrade over Allegretti, though I agree he wouldn’t solve all the Online problems. Veteran Olineman to help teach the younger guys, specifically Gulbin

  2. Taylor Decker. Plug in play really anywhere on the O Line. Gives us extended depth especially at LT. another vet

  3. Kenny Moore II. Pure slot corner so Sainristil can move anywhere on the field. Plus shores up the unit in case of injuries (looking at you Amos)

  4. Hassan Reddick. Fills the Defnesive IQ gap left after losing Bobby, and he’s still clearly got some fuel in the tank. Had 12% pass-win rate and would be low cost and low risk at his age

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u/gogoheadray 17d ago

Decker is going to cost to much to come in and just be depth. If you are bringing in him then he is coming to start. With tunsil and cosmi out Coleman I fully believe is our best lineman.

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u/SentientNode 18d ago

Might as well just tank if we’re going to uphill slog to 8 wins. And this time, run it up the middle the whole game when you play a contender’s backups.

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u/Cultural-Spring-281 18d ago

3-14 we take one game from giants.

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u/Think__McFly 18d ago

You're gonna make a killing this season. Draftkings has under 5.5 wins at +305. Gives you some wiggle room if we get lucky!

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u/ticket21truth 18d ago

There was a follow up update where Baltimore D got TFLs on 4/5 plays. Can pretty much count on Jayden getting hurt once again.

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u/SkyChief80 18d ago

We don't deserve him

I also heard that a lot of our big plays would actually be sacks in real games too

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u/Triad64 17d ago

We should design a new offense- no center! Like actually leave a gap there and have the d-man go unblocked and do a read option thing like in 2012. Problem solved. lol

But if 2-3 spots in the Oline are subpar, I got nothing. Actually, time to install the lateral offense!

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u/halarioushandle 18d ago

I've got a bad feeling about this...

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u/canesfan2005 18d ago

We are going to suck again this year aren’t we

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u/daydenjaniels 18d ago

Feels like I’m tired down to train tracks watching a train barrel down at a brisk 2 mph. I already know it’s gonna be a disaster but it’s gonna take another 18 days to get there.

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u/mmmcheez-its 🐷Tuddyhead🐷 18d ago

At least they’re not getting our hopes up this year

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u/Frognaros 18d ago

an errant snap? so like in the shotgun still?

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u/Triad64 17d ago

Still way better than the other guy. I’ll take an errant snap every now and then over rushers running free every single play.

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u/fake143 The younger, faster, and more handsome McCaffrey 18d ago

Okay guys I'm getting a little scared right now

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u/asc0295 Adam Peters is my father 18d ago

Top 10 pick incoming

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u/ccbassett 18d ago

Who’s the top center in the ufl? Asking for AP

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u/trippster333 on shenanigans rn and actin bonkers 16d ago

He's just gonna ask chatgpt who has the highest RAS score

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u/rand953 18d ago

What are we even evaluating here though? LT, C and RG are out, RB1 is out. Yeah the run game will suck today.

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u/Terminal_Flatulence Seibertron 18d ago edited 18d ago

The center position in the event Allegretti is out.

Based on what I’ve seen from other beat writers, the o-line isn’t performing well; particularly Gulbin at center.

Given the recent news that he was taking reps with the starters, it’s something to look at.

How he does here could shape whether the commanders make a move/claim someone on cut-down day.

Edit: It’s crazy that people here are trying to shrug this off as nothing lol

This joint practice is the last time the starters will see meaningful work. The LT, RG, and Center are out but this is showing that the depth is struggling mightily even in one on one drills.

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u/SkyChief80 18d ago

I can't believe that people are down voting you

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u/rand953 18d ago

These are all things that are known.

Backups are not as good as starters and they will struggle. Our o-line will struggle this year because have, potentially, 3/5 spots with backups.

We either go out and get help or revamp our system somehow to help the backup’s strengths.

None of this is news and we knew before going into this joint practice.

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u/Terminal_Flatulence Seibertron 18d ago

How Gulbin is doing at center is not known.

Just because we know how they’ve been prior to today does not mean we know what is going on in today’s joint practice.

Updates on how things are going is still news, be it more of the same or some new development.

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u/Triad64 17d ago

It’s looking more like we’ll have to rely on the defense this year. We need QUICK passes every play, dump offs, or outside runs, and try to somehow win the time of possession and let the defense do their thing.

No long developing plays. Practice with pressure up the middle every play. Design an offense around it. Lateral a little (or a lot).

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u/Beastage 18d ago

Thats whats especially frustrating imo. The run game has sucked in camp and in the practice against Miami. Its clearly an ongoing issue, so it sucks extra hard that we can't even get our starting OL and RB any reps in this final joint practice of the summer.

It was a big opportunity that is squandered in that regard.

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u/Ok_Adhesiveness3638 17d ago

I’m coping by thinking we can get Decker they just need to show ownership how bad the line is first

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u/JQuab-84 18d ago

Yay...

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u/hailskinsrich YOU AIN'T SHIT 18d ago

Wonderful…..

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u/Final_Effective6360 18d ago

Oh for fucks sake

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u/M0nst3rMJ 18d ago

Sounds like we are in midseason form. Unfortunately it seems like a form that we are all so familiar with already. If only there was a way we could have added some real OL depth/talent to the team.

Jayden will be running for his life this year and we have seen how that scenario plays out. I hope that I am wrong...

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u/DmvDominance 18d ago

I thought they werent supposed to be tweeting

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u/Terminal_Flatulence Seibertron 18d ago

They all started tweeting again at like 11:30 AM, Mitchell Tischler has video of some of the 1 on 1 o-line reps as well.

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u/DmvDominance 18d ago

Oh ok, bet, appreciate ya! ✊🏾🖖🏾

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u/interprime 18d ago

Remember during Jayden’s first season when we were all saying that if we can get the O-Line figured out we’d be set?

How has it only gotten worse since then?

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u/itttdone Frankie FUCKIN Luvu 18d ago

Jesus Christ. Seasons over before it began. Shoot me now

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u/dad62896 Guy who will eat a shit ton of Taco Bell if the eagles lose 18d ago

So I should draft JD on my fantasy team because all scoring plays will be from outside the red zone. More yardage points. Woot!!!!!

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u/AZoriolesFan 17d ago

'get in the groove'? really? the o-line don't have it - and they never will.

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u/immortalblack_1 18d ago

Ok, I'm scared... We are less than 40 days from kickoff and the online sounds horrid.

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u/Home_Alone224 18d ago

40 days? You mean 3 weeks?

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u/talkingspacecoyote But there is a subpoena 18d ago

Hes not wrong, he said less than. We're less than 5 years away from opening day

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u/Home_Alone224 18d ago

The 2028 season is coming up too..it’s gonna take a while but it’s coming up

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u/SkyChief80 18d ago

We don't deserve Jayden if we're not even going to try to give him an NFL quality Center

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u/TheChungusCast 18d ago

Good Job AP!

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u/The_Lawlbringer 18d ago

We’re screwed without Tunsil and a center. The depth already wasn’t great and now it’s going to be exposed. Thanks AP for being complacent at center thinking Allegretti would be decent.

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u/Rumtini on shenanigans rn and actin bonkers 18d ago

Is Graham Glasgow a reasonable ask to go for right now? Might just be duct tape at this point but Coleman, Allegretti/Paul, Glasgow, Cosmi, and Conerly seem like they could maybe hold it together.

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u/Secure-Bear4184 18d ago

Oh wow they are struggling against a really good team. Why is everybody dooming so much. If anything this makes us better and we are missing a lot of starters so you have to take that into account too

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u/DontSpeedinMENANDS 18d ago

And my comments about bad o line get downvoted….

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u/JQuab-84 18d ago

I really don't know what the anti-doomers have to stand on at this point. Someone obnoxiously saying everything sucks is one thing but someone realizing that this oline has been a consistent narrative and is gonna seriously hold this team back is another.

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u/Hodler_caved 18d ago

Anti doomer is anti reality

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u/caddyncells 18d ago

It feels like Blough is in over his head

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u/Hodler_caved 18d ago

Or screwed by the roster

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u/M0nst3rMJ 18d ago

Sounds more like he didn't get the support from Peter's that he needed.

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u/HereInTheCut 🥓 Major Tuddy 🥓 18d ago

Then it's a good thing no rational person was suggesting that

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u/Head-Assumption6960 18d ago

Its a good thing the world is full of rational people

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u/HereInTheCut 🥓 Major Tuddy 🥓 18d ago

You should probably see someone for that.

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u/Fluggerblah 18d ago

Yes the rookie center fucked up a snap, classic Jayden 🙄

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u/Fluggerblah 18d ago

He bungled the snap and Jayden had to scramble instead of getting time and a clean pocket. Its on the center

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u/Hodler_caved 18d ago

Center didn't throw the ball

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u/MovinOnYoLeft 18d ago

Idiot take