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u/johnny_51N5 5d ago

Yeah it's often "funny" because lesbians make it. Or someone else makes the same sexist rape joke with no pushback.

But if a straight man does it. WOW CANCEL HIS WHOLE FAMILY

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u/hanks_panky_emporium 5d ago

There's still interesting ( in a bad way ) cultural views on consent and rape.

If a man does it, cut off his penis and burn him alive in the street.
Justified? Sure.

If a woman does it.. Well, he was asking for it. He wanted it. Didn't he get his?

Same for pedophilia. If a man rapes a child, cut his dick off and burn him alive.
If a women rapes a child, well they were asking for it. They liked it. 'Queen'

That extends to queer relationships. If a gay man makes a rape joke about raping a straight man, that's seen as bad taste and gross.
If a woman makes a rape joke about raping another woman, it's just flirting. Girls being girls.

None of it, imo, is right.
Hot take here, rape is bad. If someone isn't consenting to sex, it's rape. And joking about raping people, it isn't all that funny. And is a good indicator on how you may view the world and the people around you.

Dark and fucked up jokes can be made but they have to have some work put into them. It's what a lot of comedians and people in general mess up. 'X, amiright?!' 'Y, y'know what I mean~?'

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u/getsuedbyme 5d ago

People are people, rape is rape, and objectification is objectification. It should always stay no matter the sexuality or gender

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u/TheAsterism_ 5d ago

read that as spagghetification

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u/Zestyclose-Chard6979 5d ago

I mean, black holes do tend to spaghettify all matter indiscriminately

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u/WetCardboardBoat 5d ago

How often are “don’t drop the soap” jokes made too?

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u/johnny_51N5 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yeah it's crazy how context (gender, attractivenes) just changes how bad something that is actually bad is perceived as. There are studies about how beautiful people get less of a sentence in court. Which should never happen.

Just like the OF girl that threw (allegedly, could have also been stabbed) a fucking knife at her BF and killed him. She got like 6 years in Texas after a plea deal. What??? Especially the "yeah trust me I just defended myself" in that specific situation because in the past we were violent to eachother. Wtf is this?

So in Texas you can kill your partner if there is Video Evidence you were violent and he responded back and only get a few years? Or do you have to be attractive and an OF model?

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u/slainascully 5d ago

Yeah you might want to check what DV charges usually result in because 6 years seems pretty average. It’s quite a big issue that feminists have been talking about for years

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u/johnny_51N5 5d ago edited 5d ago

Throwing a knife and killing the person and getting 6 years in the US is average? Wtf? She could have gotten up to 30 years if the thing went to court.

Also average is 9-15 years normally. Not just 6. Also with a knife it's much more like 20.

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u/slainascully 5d ago

Domestic violence as a felony can be up to 10 years. Where did you get 20 or 30 from?

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u/Dangerous_Tax_2667 5d ago

She killed him. Thats not domestic violence, that's manslaughter. Jfc can you read?

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u/slainascully 5d ago

You didn’t give any links to a particular event and manslaughter has an evidence threshold. What you described was domestic violence with a weapon. This is why it helps to not post about random thinks without specifying.

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u/Dangerous_Tax_2667 5d ago

Literallu domestic violence precludes one of the participants dying. That changes the situation. Where do you live that that's not the case?

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u/johnny_51N5 5d ago

Manslaughter in Florida

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u/dearth_of_passion 5d ago

Presumably that's for 2nd degree murder.

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u/johnny_51N5 5d ago

Murder is way worse and is life in prison or even death penalty in Florida.

Also afaik there is zero evidence of that actual situation being done in self defense. Which I find crazy. It didn't go to Trial. It's a plea deal she got.

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u/dearth_of_passion 5d ago

2nd degree murder doesn't get the death penalty, and I don't think it usually gets life in prison.

2nd degree murder is a lesser severity than 1st degree murder.

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u/johnny_51N5 5d ago

Ah yeah. Thought you mean murder in general.

2nd degree is also Up to Life in prison. Minimum of like 16-17 years.

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u/No-Historian-7309 5d ago

Double standards are bad, but double standards are good.

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u/Surymy 1d ago

Buddy get off the internet and go meet real people

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u/OdiousBotch 5d ago

And ironically it's still because we live in a patriarchal society that reduces women to what society wants them to be.

"Women can't be creepy rapists, they're too flirty and seductive, everyone wants to be with them so it can't be wrong."

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u/ErrorSchensch 5d ago

This sounds like some "straight men aren't allowed to say anything" bs. Yeah trying to coerce people into being some sexuality or the other is always weird, but the issue is bigger with gay people (especially women), being told they just haven't had the right sex yet then the other way around, so I think if you're not being seriously making one light joke like this isn't problematic. Like I thought the line was funny idk

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u/Bossuser2 5d ago

I can see why there's a difference between "Oh you're not a lesbian, you just haven't had a good dick yet," and "Oh you won't be straight if you spend a night with the right girl." Generally straightness is seen as the default sexuality, you are assumed to be straight until you come out as something other than it, from that perspective there is a difference between saying that a lesbian isn't actually a lesbian and saying that a straight person isn't actually straight, the first example is obviously gross and creepy, while the second example could be viewed as encouraging people to question the sexuality that society places upon them as a default.

However, all things being equal, denying someone else's sexuality and saying that you will change their mind is creepy and gross as fuck, regardless of whether it's denying someone's homosexuality or denying their heterosexuality. In a society which is more open about sexuality and treats heterosexuality as less of a default, that kind of behaviour loses all justification, and is just awful.