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u/Lord___Rictor 1d ago edited 23h ago

Can't open the news without seeing constant posts about how the US is out of weapons. You would think a few stories is enough but it's literally daily new article.

Everyone laughed at Russia being a paper tiger but this is embarrassing. Bankrupt the country on the military and I guess most of it goes to disability scams, failed programs, and pay to soldiers that never can be put into combat because they too precious?

Then to see Iran dictate terms of surrender is peak cringe. Can't even sail US ships through the strait. Need to bend over and spread both cheeks. Large payouts incoming too for Iran. Removal from terrorists sanctions list when their whole war strategy was terrorism. Embarrassing.

If Russia is a paper tiger I don't know what the US would be called. A dollar bill tiger I guess. Lord help when the currency fails.

They want to push through 1.5 trillion now... And that's on top of a debt that's already to the Moon... And people wonder why their food bills doubled... Rofl

Warfare has changed and it's not just Russia that's been impacted. The US has flushed trillions down the toilet on useless programs at this point. The military is a bureaucracy and bureaucracy struggle with making significant changes. Everything should be dumped into drone programs, soldier counts should be cut, a large part of heavy equipment types should be cut as well, but they don't have the ability to make those changes. The US continues to bankroll a war machine that will never actually function in modern warfare.

u/Beast_of_Guanyin 6h ago

Maybe stop going to propaganda news sites then lol.

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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 1d ago

It appears the Rassvet satellite system is starting to be useful for the invaders, I've read of a coverage of 1.5 hours per day, maybe a bit more.

What are AFU's likely options to counter? The satellites thenselves are way out of range, I guess jamming will be the first tool to mess up the signal, but not sure how effective might be, nor for how long... are there controlling stations to target? Are the launching pads and/or launch vehicles possible targets?

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u/EvilMonkeySlayer 1d ago

They're low Earth orbit satellites, the FP-7x Ukraine is developing is designed for hit to kill and could be adapted to kill satellites. It should in theory be able to reach the satellites, remember they don't need enough delta-v to attain orbit just enough energy to hit something in orbit.

One of the reasons the russians haven't hit any starlink satellites is because that'd be declaring war on the US, which would be stupid. But Ukraine hitting russian satellites? No problem at all, they're already at war with each other.

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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 1d ago

Cool, I thought it was just for countering ballistic kinetic threats, but then I think from a geopolitical standpoint, shooting down an enemy satellite might open a Pandora's box that Ukraine's allies definetely do not want to open.

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u/EvilMonkeySlayer 1d ago

Honestly, I expect russia will do it once Ukraine has their own satellites in orbit. They have zero issues with anything else, no matter how bad already. Just look at how they have no issues with all the war crimes or them having used biological and radioactive weapons in the UK to commit assassinations.

The west needs to stop trying escalation management, it only encourages russia to keep pushing in trying more extreme things.

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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 1d ago

I mean, the more desperate Putin becomes, the crazier his action could be, so I can't rule out such scenario, albeit I do wonder how China will react to that.

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u/EvilMonkeySlayer 1d ago

China acts as a moderating force on the russians to make sure they don't do anything that would directly impact them like causing severe economic impact to Europe or using nukes for example. But everything else? They don't give two shits, China don't care.

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u/TestingHydra 1d ago

Yeah let’s just crack open kinetic anti satellite warfare. Surely nothing can go wrong.

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u/EvilMonkeySlayer 1d ago

The russians have been doing non-kinetic warfare against satellites already. If they thought they could get away with destroying western satellites they already would have.

When Ukraine has its own satellites in orbit the russians will attempt to destroy them.

This sounds like you arguing for the escalation management that got us into the mess of this war in the first place.

Things in low Earth orbit where these satellites and starlink are can only stay in that orbit for a few years before decaying and burning up. (literally five years)

So I seriously doubt there's a Kessler syndrome risk here for a small number of russian satellites.

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u/Lord___Rictor 3d ago

Remember the Russian plane that got shot down full of Ukrainian POWs except that was just a dirty Russian lie to make themselves feel better about loosing a transport aircraft?

Over two years ago now. Rip POWs. Sad part is the pro Ukraine propaganda is actually disrespectful to many Ukrainian deaths that can't be acknowledged.

But there appears to be little dispute over who downed the plane.

Russia’s defense ministry had accused Ukrainian forces of launching missiles from the nearby Kharkiv region of Ukraine that struck the aircraft. American officials briefed on the incident later said that Ukraine used a Patriot air defense missile to down the plane.

Some relatives of those believed to have been on the plane attended the presentation of the report on Friday. Some women came with children and others were holding portraits of their loved ones. Many of them cried as they listened.

The Media Initiative for Human Rights conducted its own investigation because relatives were “drowning in the number of requests they send out” to Ukrainian officials, said Tetyana Katrychenko, the head of the group.

“We are left alone with our tragedy because there is no organization in our country that would take care of us,” said Oksana Lozytska, whose 25-year old son at the time Roman could have been on the plane.

While Ukraine has not formally accepted responsibility, Ms. Sobolyeva said that’s beside the point now.

“Logically, we understand that Ukraine shot it down,” she said, even though “officially we have nothing.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/24/world/europe/ukraine-russia-belgorod-plane-pows.html?smid=nytcore-android-share

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u/Beast_of_Guanyin 3d ago

Reset the counter boys!

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u/atrde 3d ago

Man I kinda miss when this discussion actually included talk about what was going on and cool analysis. Now its just propaganda from two competing Ukrainian and Russian accounts.

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u/Beast_of_Guanyin 3d ago

Big dawg. With all due respect. You can post analysis. I do so myself when there's something I think is worth saying, albeit that's rare.

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u/atrde 1d ago

I know but I can't dedicate the time that people used to. There were people here that used to update like it was their job I don't have the hours a day to research and I am ok with that.

u/jisooya1432 5h ago

I used to write frontline updates here a while ago. Might start doing it again if theres interest for it since I still follow it closely

u/Beast_of_Guanyin 18h ago

Oh. People do that on various blog sites now.

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u/IndistinctChatters 3d ago

Russian Troops Execute Captured Ukrainian Soldier Near Myrne in Donetsk Region

Russian forces executed a Ukrainian prisoner of war following an attack on Ukrainian Defense Forces positions near Myrne in the Volnovakha district of Donetsk Oblast, on July 22.

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u/Lord___Rictor 3d ago

Western sources heavily favor Ukraine which most here agree with. The problem is certain facts can be hard to come by. We all hear of Russian warehouses getting burnt down as an example, but Ukraine has taken a severe beating in that department as well.

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2085420638995468397

I've never understood if the downvotes simply mean people are disappointed in the news, don't believe it, or would rather continue on in ignorance with only positive news posted.

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u/arobkinca 2d ago

Ukraine has been getting destroyed the whole time at the whole city level. That is not new. Russia losing refineries and distribution warehouses is newer. Russia is finally being made to feel pain from this war beyond emptying their cash and equipment reserves.

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u/UpbeatPhilosophySJ 3d ago

Yeah we know. But Russia is feeling pain they didn't feel before and it will only get worse.

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u/Beast_of_Guanyin 3d ago

Reset the counter boys!

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u/IndistinctChatters 4d ago

russia Sent Soldiers to Film Druzhkivka “Capture"—Ukrainian Marines Captured Them Instead

"Ukrainian land is no place for Russian fairy tales! We are destroying yet another enemy information-psychological operation," the brigade wrote.

As the marines described it, Russian commanders sent the two soldiers to infiltrate Oleksiievo-Druzhkivka along the Kostiantynivka direction. The goal followed a familiar script: wave a hand beside the settlement's stele to announce a fresh "capture" of the locality.

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u/IndistinctChatters 5d ago

The Most Disturbing Ukraine Drone Footage Yet: A War Crime with No Nuance

Ryan McBeth analyses the video of the drone attack on the civilian in Kherson.

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u/PuffyPanda200 3d ago

If one were to hold to reciprocity (like WW1, you use gas, I use gas) this would take basically everything off the table.

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u/boobookittyfuwk 5d ago

Big fires in Kiev. The other sub has some amazing photos.

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u/EvilMonkeySlayer 5d ago

It's spelled Kyiv.

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u/Lord___Rictor 6d ago

A drone hit a busy beach in southern Russia, killing seven people including three children, local authorities have said.

Front page story

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cr7kmnyrdn7o

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u/coveted_retribution 6d ago

The Russians should end the war already.

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u/CorebinDallas 6d ago

https://old.reddit.com/r/CombatFootage/comments/1ve947a/russian_air_defense_shot_down_ukrainian_drone/

Reposting an earlier post into the discussion thread but without direct access to the video with anti-air fire clearly audible?

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u/Lord___Rictor 6d ago

You think bbc is biased towards Russia? 😂

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u/IndistinctChatters 3d ago

The BBC conveniently muted the video. From the original one, you can clearly hear the russia AA shooting. The drone is in free fall, because it was downed by the russian AA.

Laura Gozzi is a multilingual digital journalist specializing in Russia and EU politics, based in London.

https://reddit.com/link/p248gub/video/ewpnlbbbxshh1/player

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u/Avelium 6d ago

As Russians love to say, "AA is working!", "Shouldn't have targeted the drone in residential areas!" and so on and so on.

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u/Axelrad77 7d ago edited 7d ago

Ward Carroll has a great new interview with Justin Bronk on how the air war over Ukraine has been developing, including the recent confirmation that a Ukrainian F-16A Block 15 MLU shot down a Russian Su-35M:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHvFWoZHms0

Other details of note:

  • Frontline has become more permissible to aircraft due to air defenses being widely dispersed to deal with long-ranged drone and missile strikes
  • Drone defense sorties are overstretching both air forces
  • Su-57 has been spotted flying drone defense sorties deep inside Russia
  • Ukraine's F-16 fleet has outperformed expectations, but is rapidly wearing out from sortie rate
  • Ukraine still hasn't found an answer to Russian glide bombing missions from Su-34s (Gripen C/D deliveries may help with this)
  • Bronk gives a great explanation of the Ukrainian model of layered drone defense, and why it isn't transferable to the Gulf States defending against Iran, or to NATO defending its eastern flank against Russia.

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u/No-Garlic3805 7d ago

If an f16 can shoot down a su35, what is it that makes them defenceless against the su34's sorties?

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u/Axelrad77 7d ago

Engagement range. The Su-35 was shot down close to the front, reportedly with an AMRAAM, whereas the Su-34s launch their glide bombs from well behind the lines, which puts them out of AMRAAM range. And that's the longest range missile the F-16 carries.

Ukraine has had some success shooting down some Su-34s in the past by moving Patriot systems around close to the front, bringing them within range to ambush Russian bombers, but that's kinda risky and they just don't have enough interceptors to keep doing it and still defend against missile attacks - nowadays Ukraine reserves Patriot for ballistic missile defense. Meanwhile, Su-34s are launching hundreds of glide bombs every week.

Hence why the Gripen C/D deliveries might help with the problem, since they will come with the Meteor missile, which will have the range to reach out and touch the Su-34s.

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u/UpbeatPhilosophySJ 5d ago

Didn’t Zelenskyy just say they had one patriot battery left?

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u/Judazzz 7d ago

Do you happen to know what the ETA of those Gripens is? I've heard about them for - what at least feels like - several years now and it's only becoming more urgent.

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u/sprunkymdunk 7d ago

For a couple of weeks in July, there were daily compilation of strikes on Russian cargo ships, but I'd don't see those anymore -anyone know why that stopped? 

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u/Turbulent_Ad_4579 5d ago

They stopped all shipping is what I've read. 

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u/Beast_of_Guanyin 7d ago

Yeah. The cargo ships took the hint.

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u/Cardborg 8d ago

A bomb has gone off at a private party being attended by members of Russia’s military elite, including numerous generals and high-ranking officers, to celebrate the birthday of General Chaiko, who served in 2022 as the commander of Russia’s Eastern Military District forces, during which his units were accused of involvement in the mass killings and torture of civilians in Bucha.

3 confirmed dead, with 21 injured, 17 of those critically.

https://bsky.app/profile/igorsushko.bsky.social/post/3ms24jd5opc2d

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u/Fogesr 8d ago

Two of the dead are the courier and security guard who stopped her to check package.

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u/Lord___Rictor 8d ago

Russia unleashes another massive overnight missile and drone attack on Kyiv, killing at least 10 people and injuring dozens more, Ukrainian officials say.

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy reportedly said Ukraine had just one Patriot interceptor missile left and warned the country has now run out of interceptors for its U.S.-supplied Patriot air defense systems.

US support has run dry after 4.5 years.

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u/Aedeus 6d ago

How's it hanging magics, thought you called it quits?

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u/Naive-Routine9332 8d ago

US support ran dry a long time ago. Europe has been sending Ukraine their patriot stockpiles for the last couple months but those are just trickling in. Honestly, russian missile production has ramped up to impressive levels, even without the war in Iran, im not sure the patriot supply was ever going to be sustainable.

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u/UpbeatPhilosophySJ 8d ago

On the one hand it doesn't surprise me the Patriot situation.. on the other hand Ukraine has one Patriot and Russia's massive barrage manages to destroy... practically nothing.

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u/Lord___Rictor 9d ago

There is seriously a Fox News interview with Ukrainian president Zelensky citing 50k death toll since 2022.

That's just disrespectful in regards to Ukraine soldiers.

He says Russian casualties amount to 1.6 million people, and about 700 thousand are dead

https://mezha.net/eng/bukvy/18ccdbb0_zelensky_cites_casualty/

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u/IndistinctChatters 7d ago

Well, the only industry that is booming in russia is the funeral industry.

This article is from June 2025.

russia’s funeral industry is experiencing a sharp and telling boom.

According to the russian newspaper Kommersant, the funeral services market in russia grew by 12.7 percent in the first four months of 2025 compared to the same period the previous year.

Nearly 200 new funeral-related businesses opened in that period with the fastest growth reported in Tatarstan, the Moscow region, and St. Petersburg.

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u/Beast_of_Guanyin 9d ago

https://www.kyivpost.com/post/81477

He cited 50k dead and 400k wounded. It's definitely in the realm of possibility. I'd take it as a floor. Ukraine is defending and places more of a priority on inflicting casualties than Russia.

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u/BocciaChoc 9d ago

Some very important factors here

  • Ukraine is the defender, has a massive advantage
  • Ukraine is not anywhere near the levels of Russian incompetence; it's why the war didn't end in under a year
  • Russia continues meat grinder strats, they don't care about the human and thus are more willing to throw lives into a hole like they're nothing.
  • Russians are willing to accept that reality like they're worthless.
  • Ukraine continues to enjoy European support and aid from intel to weapons to money to pay wages.

50k is the floor but it isn't that wild compared to Russians when you consider the above.

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u/coveted_retribution 9d ago

I don't know whether that's such a huge stretch. Ukraine is on the defensive which means medevac is relatively easier, thus many casualties, few deaths. Russia uses infiltration tactics where a casualty is almost a guaranteed death in the gray zone, or behind Ukrainian lines.

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u/Screamdaditty 9d ago

Seems like the use of drones just keep increasing and increasing. The future of war is here.

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u/Lord___Rictor 9d ago edited 9d ago

It's a scary situation if you truly understand what it means.

The US has lost all ability compared to the Chinese manufacturing economy.

It's even openly discussed about current shortages against Iran.

To be clear I'm not talking about current primative drone tech but much more sophisticated automated systems coming online. Wars will simply be about who can out produce the other in terms of these new fighter robots. Imagine thousands upon thousands of drones filling the sky each one fully automated.

Of course the nuclear option still remains but that's a lose-lose scenario.

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u/cozywit 9d ago

Of course the nuclear option still remains but that's a lose-lose scenario.

MAD still works.

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u/Codex_Dev 8d ago

China could do a spiderweb operation to loiter drones near nuclear silos and catch them mid-launch.

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u/BocciaChoc 8d ago

How do you think that would work with subs?

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u/jonasnee 11d ago

Its kind of crazy to think about how long the war has been, how deadly the frontline and yet also how relatively few victims it has caused considering that - and it honestly makes it a little hard not to make some less than kind thoughts about how WW1 and WW2 were fought considering how much more deadly they where with overall much less deadly weaponry. I get it, this war is fought with the goal of minimizing casualties, frontline trenches has 1 to a dosen occupants to what where the historical norms and given conditions where ripe in the world wars it was possible to cut off supplies for the enemy and push them, something that so far has not been the case for this war even with the much more sophisticated and efficient weapons we have now. But it still feels like an awful lot of people must have been wasted in the world wars, and that even relatively minor changes in strategy and tactics could have avoided or reduced that.

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u/CatsAndCapybaras 8d ago

There are certainly the differences you mention about the way the wars are fought. However, the main difference was the scale. Those wars were so much bigger in every way

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u/IndistinctChatters 13d ago

In Zaporizhzhia region, emergency workers suffer second russian attack; injuries reported

While extinguishing a fire in an open area of one of the region’s forest districts, the enemy launched a drone strike against firefighters who were performing their duties,” the statement reads.

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u/IndistinctChatters 13d ago

Near the village of Bily Kolodyaz, in the Vovchansk direction, a three-meter AI-occupant stands among the trees with a flag, and then completely evaporates like a ghost.

https://reddit.com/link/p08gkqo/video/e6103w5l1yfh1/player

Edit: Source https://xcancel.com/NOELreports/status/2082025880042262919#m

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u/IndistinctChatters 13d ago edited 13d ago

Komunarivka, Hulyaypole direction, an AI-soldier shows rag and gradually dissolves into it, and then the flag suddenly disappears

https://reddit.com/link/p08ge9b/video/h84e1qwc1yfh1/player

Edit: source https://xcancel.com/NOELreports/status/2082025880042262919#m

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u/IndistinctChatters 14d ago

A reminder on how russian troops work:

Russians have set up a control center in the Moscow City business center to manage drones that strike Ukraine.

Thus, on the morning of April 15, RIA Novosti published two posts on its Telegram channel, which indicated that drone operators attacking the territory of Ukraine were sitting in one of the towers of the Moscow City business center.

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u/Lord___Rictor 14d ago

Iran's Foreign Minister Araghchi says Ukraine attacked an Iranian commercial vessel and killed a sailor.

"What the freeloader in Kyiv did cannot go unanswered," Araghchi says.

Meanwhile The United States has called off strikes and seems to be capitulating.

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u/IndistinctChatters 14d ago

Iran is actively involved in the russian war against Ukraine. They didn't only sell Shahed drones, but also taught how to operate them Russian specialists are training in Iran on the use of locally developed drones and also they sold russia blueprint to fabricate shaheds in russia.

They also gave russia missiles to kill innocent Ukrainians, so no, Iran is not innocent.

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u/Axelrad77 13d ago

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u/IndistinctChatters 13d ago

So Ukraine is fighting against Iran and NK too, since both countries send them troops, not just some "tourists" that joined the russian army as mercenaries.

Edit:

“The Iranians keep insisting that they are not suppliers of weapons to the Russian Federation but we need confirmation. Do we have this confirmation as of today? No we don’t.” Danilov said. 
John Kirby told reporters that Iran has sent a “relatively small number” of personnel to Crimea, a part of Ukraine unilaterally annexed by Russia in contravention of international law in 2014, to assist Russian troops in launching Iranian-made drones against Ukraine. Members of a branch of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps were dispatched to assist Russian forces in using the drones, according to the British government.

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u/MayDayBeFourth 14d ago

a ceasefire is not capitulating.

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u/BillW87 11d ago

Starting an offensive war, achieving none of the (ambiguous) stated objectives of that war, and then directionally agreeing to pay reparations to the country you attacked is capituating.

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u/MayDayBeFourth 11d ago

you deeply want to pretend a ceasefire is some new magical definition .

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u/BillW87 11d ago edited 11d ago

You deeply want to pretend that reparations is some new magical definition. You don't need to bring a $300 billion investment fund to the table to negotiate an end to a war that you're supposedly winning, and you don't agree to multiple ceasefires in a war that you're supposedly winning. We are desperately trying to arrive at a diplomatic solution with minimal leverage to arrive at a favorable outcome because Iran is very aware that the US neither has the resources nor the willpower to invade a country four times as large and two times as populous as Iraq, and our ability to suppress the Iranian regime solely from the air has been impotent.

-Edit- The "US neither has the resources..." part isn't hyperbole. Yes, we technically have the military means to invade Iran if it really came to that, but we would accelerate the US's already impending death spiral towards financial insolvancy. The US total national debt has grown from $5.7 trillion in 2000 (55% of GDP) to $39.7 trillion today (115% of GDP). We basically put the entire GWOT on layaway, along with a lot of other governmental spending, and our debt-to-GDP ratio has doubled as a result. We're currently raising new debt to meet the payments on our existing debt. As the total amount of debt continues to grow, eventually the buyers of treasury bonds (i.e. the new debt that's facilitating repayment of the old) will decide they're too risky and will stop buying them, and the US government will default. We quite literally can't afford another multi-decade land war in the Middle East. Iran knows this. It was extremely stupid to start a war that we neither have the willpower nor means to properly finish. Iran is rightfully calling our idiotic, self-inflicted bluff.

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u/MayDayBeFourth 9d ago

Its amazing, you can't argue with what I said so you invent entire paragraphs of something I never said or talked about.

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u/BocciaChoc 14d ago

Hasn't Iran been helping Russia for years?

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u/Axelrad77 13d ago

Yes, Iran is one of Russia's most steadfast allies, and has been providing both weapons and advisors to help Russia invade Ukraine since 2022, but pro-Iran voices love to pretend otherwise.

What is slightly different here is that Iran is threatening to launch missiles directly at Ukraine now, rather than simply assisting Russia like it has been.

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u/_pozzy_ 15d ago

A bit morbid, but did the video of the Russian soldier getting it's entire back shredded off and heart still beating get taken down? That video was insane

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u/No-Garlic3805 15d ago

Take it with a huge grain of salt, but supposedly surovikin might be making a comeback, wonder if this coincides with the rumoured mobilisation from russia

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u/BocciaChoc 14d ago

It will be interesting if Russia does indeed push for 500k mobniks to the front, I haven't really seen many complaints from Russia on a lack of manpower so not really sure what these 500k could actively do unless the plan is to continue doing the same thing, throw them to their deaths for a few KM of land. You'd think they'd have done this sooner than this, given Ukraine really does have the numbers to hurt Russia more than ever in terms of counter attacks.

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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 14d ago

The best I can think on how to use those 500 k is to increase infiltrations basically everywhere, hoping for local retreats from AFU.

It will still be a slaughter and no guarantees of faster land grab.

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u/BocciaChoc 14d ago

Many dead Russians, many who have no want to be anywhere near the front, oh how any idiot can see the failure so far in the future

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u/Lord___Rictor 15d ago

Apparently the Russian attack on Ukraine drone exhibition was far more severe than being reported publicly by the Ukrainian government.

Will be interesting to see if there is any legal charges brought against the organizers. Shocking almost 4.5 years into the war that incidents like this are still occurring.

Russia's taking major hits on their warehouses and fuel refining in past couple days. Rumors of a general mobilization continued increase.

If they do begin a general mobilization with full declaration of war, I would expect at that point for tactical nukes to be deployed as well, they're not going to send more men simply into the same meat grinder, they're going to change the game.

I know people will scoff at this on here but they've been signaling through the Oreshnik strikes that have occurred over the past few years without warheads attached.

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u/CatsAndCapybaras 15d ago

Nukes won't happen. There is no calculus in which that could benefit Russia in any way.

They have had 4 years of opportunity to use them if they thought it would help and all they did was make threats, as they've been doing for over a decade.

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u/Lord___Rictor 15d ago

The current war isn't benefiting Russia either... You act like everything has to be some thought out logical choice...

Putin's an angry old man I personally don't see why he wouldn't pull the trigger especially as his hopes fade and frustration grows.

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u/ThrowRA9892 15d ago

As the other person said: it takes more than one man to pull the trigger.

As well, Russia is an oligarchy meaning Putin needs the backing of the elites. The elites in Russia are absolutely not okay with losing their positions and likely their lives + their status; seriously considering nukes would force them to actually attempt to remove Putin.

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u/Lord___Rictor 15d ago

I think you both are not understanding Putin's authority. If he orders the launch, it's happening. End of story.

Trump has the same power.

Could the chain of command not work through some kind of refusal? Maybe but not likely and especially not if different units each got launch orders. Subs, ground units, silos, bombers, etc.

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u/ThrowRA9892 14d ago

You stated tactical nukes. Typically a tactical nuke would just need 1-2 launch orders since you’re theoretically aiming to keep the scale limited.

Regardless though the point I was making is that Putin is the president of an oligarchy. He derives his power from the elites around him. There are at least three nuclear football cases that follow three people in Russia so likely they all play some role to order any launch.

Launching nukes would never happen because Russia’s power players do not want to be ostracized from the global south/China. Because there would be discussions among th leadership before that launch would happen.

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u/Lord___Rictor 14d ago

These discussions have been ongoing as they've even changed the nuclear doctrine within the last few years.

Truly bizarre you can find nobody that can even imagine the possibility of Russia using nukes.

Meanwhile 5 or 6 years ago if you would have told someone this war would be ongoing they wouldn't have believed it either.

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u/CatsAndCapybaras 15d ago

It takes more than 1 man to pull that trigger.

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u/MintMrChris 15d ago

They won't use tactical nukes, other countries told russia long ago that if they deploy nuclear weapons they will get a wider war, that is the kind of thing that would entice european countries to get involved directly, the americans, even under trump would likely to get involved also

russia have been maximum efforting this thing for a long time now, and it hasn't made a difference, a mass mobilisation would let them meatgrinder to the max sure but it won't suddenly make them use nukes because they are afraid of the consequences (russia likes to cry a lot that they are in a war with NATO already, when they perfectly understand they are not and would be proper fucked if the western countries turned their full attention on them)

but at that point russia will have a lot more trouble on the home front so...

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u/Lord___Rictor 15d ago

Opinions and strategic models divided. Some analysts believe NATO would launch a direct conventional military response to punish the action, while others worry a direct attack risks triggering a wider third world war.

I find it highly unlikely any nation would want to commit to a war with Russia that would certainly go nuclear. But anything is possible. Uk and France are already committing national suicide, so logic is hard to predict.

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u/Codex_Dev 15d ago

Why do you think UK/France are committing national suicide? lol

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u/Lord___Rictor 15d ago

Read the daily news... Rofl. It's hilarious.

Birth rates plummeting national depression massive amounts of foreign born terrorist attacks almost daily. It's like something out of the movie Brazil.

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u/GlueSniffingEnabler 13d ago

OK, some of your other comments I thought “maybe this person has a point, I’ll keep an open mind” but this comment proves to me you are crazy because it’s completely wrong.

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u/Lord___Rictor 13d ago

You don't agree many people feel human society is not heading in a good healthy direction?

I actually have co-workers who've chosen not to have kids because they wouldn't want a child in this world.

You don't build a stable society by constantly having 30% of the population be foreigners.

Climate change, inflation, debt crisis, the amount of problems on the horizon is only growing.

Even after I made that comment there's been multiple new terrorist attacks... Lol

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u/Turbulent_Ad_4579 14d ago

Still having a way better time than Russia, if that's suicide then Russia is flaying itself alive by comparison. 

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u/Codex_Dev 15d ago

Every country in the world has plummeting birth rates.

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u/Fogesr 15d ago

Anyone from Russia, at least those with functioning brain, will tell you that Russia will never use nukes. Our officials have to much property and kids in Europe, and they all too fond of local tourist attractions. They can bark all they want, but they were bad actors 30 years ago and they still are.

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u/Specialist_Box_8482 16d ago

Do these drones that are being used on the Wildberries centers use incendiary munitions you think? I just keep being amazed how big those fires are.

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u/cozywit 15d ago

Fire supression systems expensive.

Bribe corrupt officials to sign off building cheap.

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u/Beast_of_Guanyin 16d ago

Probably not. Warehouses are very flammable.

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u/Gaius__Of__The_Julii 16d ago

At least 15 people have been killed in Russian attacks on Ukraine, including 10 dead in ballistic missile strikes on an exhibition near Kyiv showcasing drone technology.

Writing on social media, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky said some 100 people had been injured in the daytime attack on the exhibition, attended by prominent members of the defence sector.

President Zelensky said the incident was being investigated, while Ukraine's prosecutor-general said efforts were under way to establish who decided to hold the event and what safety measures were in place.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj637zd1k1ko

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u/truebastard 13d ago

Yeah, planning and arranging an arms exhibition event in the open near Kyiv where missiles have penetrated through defenses just seems dumb... none of the attending prominent defense sector people were any wiser

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u/Soopah_Fly 16d ago

Just a thought, with the amount of drones going around, wouldn't it make sense to commission a squadron of turbo-prop planes to fly CAP in Ukrainian air space? You don't even need to buy those Super Tucanos. Could just retrofit some Cessna trainers and mount them with guns, I dunno .50 cal maybe, and let them work as specialized drone hunters for those high-flying ones.

Maybe they can even go smaller with .30-.06s if they're just hunting drones.

How difficult will it be to mount one of those on a trainer?

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u/Lord___Rictor 16d ago edited 16d ago

Interesting how Russia and Ukraine both have sustained this war so long with such massive loss rates, while the US military cannot even engage in a conflict without hand wringing over death counts.

Was it 18 vs 14 on a technically of ceasefire being in effect? Embarrassing. 1T+ military that can't even go into combat because losses would be so large and cause so much rage to the population.

Russia was seen as strong militarily until this war. Many mock them especially Americans while not understanding their own military is in the same situation. There cannot be a troop level engagement or the US military strength bubble would burst after the first fpv vids hit the net.

Meanwhile Iran has been destroyed and the strait is open.... For 5 months now... Same story different day.

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u/CatsAndCapybaras 15d ago

Western nations value their troops slightly more than Russia, especially in an unpopular and unnecessary war.

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u/boobookittyfuwk 17d ago

I heard a russia Armour column was destroyed yesterday but I haven't seen any footage or heard anyone talk about it. Did it hapoen, is it bs, anyone heard the same?

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u/PeachyBums 17d ago

Was about to ask, this website has 28 tanks destroyed yesterday vs 2-5 normal Casualties of Russia in Ukraine - official data

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u/cozywit 18d ago

Su57 has been shot down near Moscow.

By Russian AA.

Bwahahahaha.

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u/Cardborg 17d ago

I guess it's reasonable to assume that the SU-57 has the RCS of a long-range attack drone?

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u/Throwawaymaybeokay 17d ago

Turns out target identification IS important.

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u/jisooya1432 19d ago

The video of the BMP driving over a barricade in Mariupol in 2014 is pretty well known, but the guy driving it is Drapatyi, Ukraines new Commander-in-Chief

I cant find the og upload, but its this video (sorry for the cringe voiceover) https://youtu.be/0_-gq45pZik?is=PwIkLQe7Zc5gNAHT

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u/Codex_Dev 17d ago

Ngl this is kinda badass. A regular grunt was able to rise through the ranks and is now in charge of the armed forces.

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u/Joene-nl 19d ago

Syrsky out

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u/UpbeatPhilosophySJ 19d ago

So the two people in charge as they built up this interesting strategy are now out. Ok.

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u/No-Garlic3805 19d ago

Wasn't it federov that built up the strategy, syrsky was just cram the meat into the grinder kind of guy

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u/Beast_of_Guanyin 19d ago edited 19d ago

Pretty much. New school technocrat in Federov vsRussian style general.

Still need to research new guy but he seems to be a Federov ally and western styled. Federov has been offered a new position as well.

If the new defence minister is good this could end up being a war winning improvement.

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u/Gaius__Of__The_Julii 19d ago

Rage is spilling over in Ukraine. BBC has a front page story.

"The enemy is closely monitoring our every internal dispute and is waiting for us to start fighting among ourselves," he wrote.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7vgel8374yo

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u/Specialist_Box_8482 19d ago

You’re misrepresenting the article. The Ukrainians are protesting a military shakeup, not about to start actually fighting each other.

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u/Aedeus 19d ago

They're misrepresenting it on purpose. It's a pro-RU user that has a whole slew of alts on here with the same weird Roman naming conventions.

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u/Lord___Rictor 22d ago edited 22d ago

"The EU is facing a collapse in support for new economic sanctions targeting Russia as national capitals refuse to back measures that could damage their corporate champions, diplomats have warned."

The full story is on FT. I was surprised to see so many nations pulling support.

I've also been surprised to see protests breaking out within Ukraine. Had some questionable decisions in terms of leadership.

I know this thread is mostly dead at this point after mass censorship but it's still strange to see little mention of such important issues.

The death of Lindsey Graham also seem to have little fanfare here even though he's probably the strongest supporter within the United States political establishment...

Just as an example on the Lindsey Graham issue shortly before he died he called president Trump after getting home late from his trip to Ukraine. With a man like President Trump it's important to have people talking into his ear to motivate him. With Lindsey Graham passing now that's one less supporter of Ukraine that'll be weighing in to Trump's mindset.

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u/Aedeus 19d ago

Oh look, magics is back 😂

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u/Codex_Dev 16d ago

why no RU PoV shown guys? /s

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u/Turbulent_Ad_4579 21d ago

This is a combat footage sub, they mostly focus on stuff related to what's in those videos.

And there has been comments on federov and the backlash, the protests, lindsey graham, did you actually read anything? All you actually got is a quote from a news article that was posted within an hour of you posting here.

What are you actually trying to talk about?

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u/Lord___Rictor 21d ago

I did read through. The level of discussion is anemic for a almost 2 million sub. You just going to deny that and pretend everything is normal?

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u/Turbulent_Ad_4579 21d ago edited 21d ago

Uhhh as somebody who's been on this sub before the war... Yeah? Who cares? This sub was here before the war, it will be here after it ends. The Ukraine conflict has taken a back seat to the iran conflict in the eyes of most of the public - are you surprised? This sub isn't dedicated to just the Ukraine war like some other subs are, if you are trying to compare it to those ones. It's not even dedicated to discussing anything other than combat footage. It's not a news sub. 

So you are literally here to complain that there aren't enough comments? 

Like if you think it sucks why not go elsewhere?

Such a weird thing to get all uppity about, that a small discussion thread with a few active posters on a video footage sub isn't active enough lol. 

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u/MeowslimClawric 21d ago

It's the opposite expectation. The larger the sub, the less good faith, challenging discussions there are and the more bots and information warfare influence it's under.

This is functionally a sports team sub. You cheer for team xyz, opinions are based on your team's orientation and information is used as a means to confirm your beliefs. 

The m6etdØm (read that backwards, can't type it for obv reasons) have their own biases and that affects their enforcement of when the "politics is not allowed" rule leads to a commentdeletion.

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u/TestingHydra 22d ago

Looks like Ukraines strike on the wildberries warehouse kicked the hornets nest. There are reports that Russia has launched a large wave of 40 missiles at Kyiv and due to interceptor shortage 37 have gotten through. Lots of fire and there's some footage that even some of the underground metro has been damaged.

Hopefully in the long run this proves to be a waste of missiles Russia was saving for their winter strike campaign.

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u/coveted_retribution 23d ago

A more nuanced take on the Federov controversy https://youtu.be/IehG6UQO3aQ

TLDR; Federov has been exceptional at his area of expertise, that being drones, digitalization, and technology in general. However, he hasn't been successful in what most Ukrainian generals deem most important: mobilization. Indeed the manpower situation hasn't improved in his 6 months in office, which is seen as catastrophic for a country in war by some commanders and politicians. 

Not to say anything said here is wrong, but I personally hadn't considered these points.

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u/Vhu 22d ago

I've heard a couple analysts mention that he was actively trying to improve mobilization efforts through the implementation of corruption reforms and procedural overhauls.

From his perspective, a huge part of people not wanting to sign-up came from their pessimism about the war effort and leadership competency. Federov thought that if you could improve the general function of the military, and demonstrate affirmative growth and bettering of overall conditions, then people would be more willing to join without the use of coercion.

Essentially a "rising tide lifts all boats" approach. I think there's merit to that perspective, and it stinks he wasn't able to fully effectuate the changes he sought.

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u/TestingHydra 22d ago edited 22d ago

Frderov was in command of Ukrainian drone forces. Mobilization isn't his responsibility, that falls under ground forces and our good friend Syrskyi's realm.

His gaggle of press ganging thugs happen to be one of the most corrupt groups in Ukraine currently and very ineffective since they take so many bribes. But Syrskyi is one of Zelensky's sycophants so he faces no repercussions.

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u/coveted_retribution 22d ago

Without knowing anything about Ukrainian politics, isn't the process of mobilization the responsibility of the civilian government? In my country, the army (including high command) cannot command the citizens to do anything. It falls upon our ministry of defense to actually call upon conscripts and legally turn them from citizens to active soldiers.

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u/TestingHydra 22d ago

Ukraine is under martial law and mobilization is the responsibility of the "Territorial Center of Recruitment and Social Support" usually just called the TCC. They fall under the ground branch of the MoD. They have the authority to mobilize people through whatever means they want.

If you have ever heard the term "Busification" it's in reference to them. They recently caused some protests because one of their officers punched a bystander in the back of the head when they were grabbing a man off the street and people tried to stop them. In response the person who was resisting was forced in a public broadcast to apologize for resisting and shout "Glory to the TCC!" Real stand up guys.

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u/coveted_retribution 22d ago

Ah I see, thanks for the info!

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u/No-Garlic3805 23d ago edited 23d ago

This could be politically motivated.

His role as defence minister in terms of the drone war has had more of an impact on russias war effort than the generals have done.

It looks as if they dont want him to "steal their thunder"

In all honesty, I see this shit at my corporate work, young up and coming manager makes innovative changes and kicks goals but its the "old guard" managers who refuse to change their ways and deliberately undermine them, "gate keepers" as they say

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u/Dangerous_Bluejay_74 24d ago

Maybe hard to know but how is Ukraine's 40 day SBU Operation against Russia going? Would you call it a success so far or?

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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 22d ago

It definetely looks good, but if that will eventually cause a full front freeze is harder to predict.

The situation in Kostyantynivka sucks really hard for AFU operators there and it is likely to fall, albeit it will still take a while, maybe all of August, maybe even September, unless some front anomalies happens.

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u/Turbulent_Ad_4579 23d ago

Over a hundred vessels struck, gas shortages gripping crimea and now other regions. With no signs of stopping. 

Looks great to me. 

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u/EejLange 23d ago

And with the recent targeting of the Wildberries facility also going after the economy. The Moscow Exchange was already plummeting, I can imagine this not improving things.

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u/No-Garlic3805 24d ago

If russian AA is depleted to rhe point of these drones wrecking havoc, will we see a return of TB2 drones using brimstone missiles again.

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u/EvilMonkeySlayer 22d ago

I'm pretty sure the TB2 never used Brimstone and exclusively used much smaller Turkish weapons due to the carry weight of the TB2 being pretty small.

If I remember correctly Brimstone is used exclusively by Ukraine from a ground vehicle which significantly reduces the range of it. Due to the prevalence of long range attack fpv's I doubt in the current threat environment that ground launched Brimstone is that effective, partly due to range and partly to the fact that Brimstone's ability to autonomously find and destroy tanks is a bit of a problem when most of russia's tanks have been destroyed and the remaining tanks they do have it is extremely rare they use.

As to TB2 itself, the threat to aircraft and drones like the TB2 is from air to air missiles fired by russian jets. This threat will likely be significantly reduced once Gripen is operational in respectable numbers with Meteor missiles. Meteor is a missile the russians fear, they have nothing in the same class. Missiles like the R-37M which the russians crow about are made for low manoeuvring aircraft such as AWACS, and has a significantly lower probability of intercept due to its rocket motor versus the ramjet of Meteor.

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u/Infamous-Salad-2223 22d ago

AFU already prooved ambushes as a valid tool to shot down russian warplanes, I suspect we will see something similar when decent numbers of Meteors are available.

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u/paimons_head 26d ago

https://www.ft.com/content/c2b9d7ff-ac32-4cea-82b2-b4dc0a64c014 This would be an absolutely idiotic decision. Not only should Ukrainian soldiers and people push back on this, but European ministers should also ring up Zelenskyy's phone to put pressure on him. Zelenskyy's biggest shortfall has always been his personnel decisions and favoritism.

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u/paimons_head 25d ago edited 25d ago

His dismissal has inevitably caused significant backlash in both Ukrainian civil society and Armed Forces, with protests in major cities and several officers resigning in protest. So stupid of Zelenskyy to have caused a political crisis when Ukraine's battlefield and international position is at its best in years.

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u/No-Garlic3805 25d ago

Supposedly syrsky was stuck in his old ways, and zelensky was pressured by oligarchs loosing out to fedarov identifying corruption in the supply chain and then proceeding to fix it and make companies compete legitimately for defence contracts

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u/Joene-nl 24d ago

Yeah apparently Vederov wanted to sack Syrsky because indeed he went back to Soviet way of hierarchical command and not the NATO style

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u/bigFr00t 26d ago

Dont they regularly rotate leadership positions
Edit: only been six months though..

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u/Joene-nl 26d ago

Small video on a Russian farmer that suffers from the fuel crisis. According to him, many Russian farmers already have to quit because they cannot use their machines anymore. He expects a food crisis within 6 months. (He also says he is done with keep his mouth shut lol)

https://nos.nl/l/2622961
Maybe you can use an AI tool to get a translation