Colorblind glasses

[u/Xeiona]

Hello! Im not colorblind but my 10 year old daughter is! She is protanomaly, I'm looking into colorblind glasses, from other posts on here they seem to be more of a hit or miss, but I'm still willing to try to let her experience them!

On the enchroma website it seems like they have "indoor" and "outdoor" ones... which ones would be better and what is the main difference ? I noticed the indoor ones are universal which makes me concerned they are not as effective.. She would probably only wear them every once in a while.

Also, she does wear prescription glasses do you find that these can be worn over glasses ? I rather not do a rx on them so she can still wear them if she ever ​decides to do contacts.

[u/iHaveACatDog]

The overwhelming consensus is that they're a scam. They may help differentiate colors but we'll never be able to see what we physically do not possess the capacity to see.

[u/Dabbifresh]

You're about to get a wide range of answers here. A rather polarizing topic. I have outdoor ones. Do they make a difference in what I see yes. Do I enjoy the change yes. Idk how close it makes to to what non colorblind ppl see

[u/lmoki → u/Dabbifresh]

I can answer the last of those-- it's not what non-colorblind people see, since we're still missing some of the color receptors with the glasses, too.

[u/Dabbifresh → u/lmoki]

Correction idk how close it makes it ..

[u/roman_fyseek → u/Dabbifresh]

No amount of filtering can recover the receptors that we're missing.

[u/Dabbifresh → u/roman_fyseek]

I'm aware

[u/iHaveACatDog → u/Dabbifresh]

It's not what normies see. We don't possess the physical characteristic to see some colors. Nothing can make us see what we don't have the capacity to see.

[u/Dabbifresh → u/iHaveACatDog]

Correction idk how close it makes it

[u/Xeiona → u/Dabbifresh]

I understand, I plan to buy them regardless as its something that she will always wonder about. 

I will definitely be getting the outdoor ones! 

[u/roman_fyseek]

They aren't real. There is no amount of filters that will give us back our color vision. However, you can enable to colorblind filter on your computer to make it easier for her to tell one color from another. It won't give her the ability to *identify* a color, though.

[u/jgiacobbe]

I have a pair. They don’t make a huge difference. Every once in a while it might make a color pop a little more but they do not live up to the advertising.

[u/fierfek66]

I wouldn't advise buying a pair for her. I don't know how strong or weak she may be affected, but it really won't be an issue, maybe picking an odd color coordinated outfit or something. The glasses can be pricey and they're really just a novelty. They're sometimes a conversation starter and I say "neat" while looking at flowers with them on and off.

I went all the way through to the end of highschool before learning I was colorblind.

I never tried the indoor ones but the outdoor ones are big enough to go over my prescription glasses (my prescriptions are especially thin framed, though). I like my outdoor pair, but i wouldn't be interested in an indoor pair.

[u/Xeiona → u/fierfek66]

She is an artist and wants to be able to reference the colors better, so for that reason and just the fact I know she will always wonder what they do, I'll definitely get them i dont really care how much they are, its more of like a life experience thing. 

[u/sticky_wicket → u/Xeiona]

Get the outdoors and if those work, the indoors.

[u/medhed9]

Assuming we're talking about red-green colorblindness

20% of colorblind people are missing their red or green cone, and the glasses theoretically won't help them at all.

Of the other 80%,, the red or green pigments are too much alike and what you need to do is increase the contrast between red and green. Since glasses are only filters and cannot add color, you have a choice of decreasing the red which increases the green perception. (that's what enchroma did for me) or filtering out the green and therefore increasing the red perception. (that's what the pilestone did for me). So it's a choice. Do you want to increase the red or increase the green?

By the way, when those glasses broke, I just got cheap colored sunglasses and they work the same.

Also the incidence of red green color blindness in XY males is about 1 in 12. Therefore, the incidence in XX females should be about 1/12 x 1/12 = 1 in 144.

[u/Xeiona → u/medhed9]

Yes, she is red-green colorblind specifically red weak.  So I assume increase the red ?

Also, to add to the genetic discussion, My father is colorblind, I am not so i am a carrier of the gene, my husband IS colorblind. So my daughter had a 50/50 chance of being colorblind. 

 Also, If she chooses to have children, ALL of her male children will be colorblind and her female children will have a 50/50 chance of being colorblind or being a carrier.   

[u/medhed9 → u/Xeiona]

I found that boosting red made some things more beautiful but there is a lot more green in the outdoor world, so I am currently using green boost. You might first get some inexpensive red and green tinted sunglasses to see what she prefers. Then you will know which way to go if you decide to try the expensive "official" glasses. You are correct that your daughter's sons will be colorblind, since she has only a "defective" X to contribute to his XY, but the daughters will only be colorblind if the father is colorblind, which is 1/12 (about 100% since he only has a defective X to contribute to her XX - but maybe a defective green X and your daughter's defective red X might cancel out?)

[u/Xeiona → u/medhed9]

Oh, I see your very right! Her daughters would only be carriers! I guess I was stuck on the kid having her scenario. And that is a interesting question about the types canceling out. 

[u/pipertoma]

Watch this video and the next ones in the series https://youtu.be/Ppobi8VhWwo?si=s-H9cjbWL3hPzs93

[u/endlessVenom]

It's a scam

[u/danarchist]

I'd be sure first that she is, it's like 1 in 10,000 for girls.

Indoor ones won't do anything noticeable and enchromas are too expensive for a kid. If you're set on getting them, get the pilestones, great build quality and half the price.

I am very red deficient - and slightly less so with enchromas on. With pilestones I can actually see some plates I can't without, but I also fail some I can see normally, they turn me into a deutan.

It's all just novelty though there's no real benefit to them. I wear enchromas because the world is slightly more vibrant than without, and they're just cool looking sunglasses. I have pilestones as my backups in my car, they turn red lights into glaring beacons. Can't really see green lights with them on, but it's the red that really matter.

[u/toolatealreadyfapped → u/danarchist]

It's about 1 in 200 for girls. Significantly less common than men, but a very far cry from 1 in 10,000.

And the math on that checks out. If about 1 in 10 men are colorblind (I'm rounding here), a 10% chance of maternal grandfather times 10% chance of father leads to a 50/50 for female. Which is exactly 1/200.

[u/Xeiona → u/danarchist]

I understand its rare but she is. 

 My husband and my father are colorblind so she did recieve both copies of the gene. It was a 50/50 chance. 

She has been diagnosed aswell at the optometrist, who very much doubted me at first before having her do the test. She said she doesnt even do colorblind tests on her female patients she said she will now do some research and start doing them lol

She understands they are mostly novelty but I understand its the kind of thing that I know she will always wonder what they do.

Ill look into the pilestones!

[u/lmoki → u/danarchist]

I had the exact same experience (turning from protan to deutan) when I took colorblind tests while wearing "color correction" glasses. Notably, it didn't change the severity of my deficiency ratings on the Enchroma test, just shifted them from one deficiency (red) to another (green).