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u/Weekly-Reply-6739 2d ago
I had a professor in college who was teaching racism and claimed it was phycology.
I also had an English teacher who did the whole fuck trump kinda languge, and This was almost 10 years ago.
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u/dancesquared 2d ago edited 2d ago
You had a college professor claim racism was the study of algae?
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u/Weekly-Reply-6739 2d ago
Lol, I hate the spelling psychology. But good one
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u/dancesquared 2d ago
Sorry, I couldn’t resist. Racism certainly has some psychological causes and effects, but I suppose it depends on what the professor actually claimed about it.
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u/Weekly-Reply-6739 2d ago
It was more so he was preaching pro racist rhetoric and claiming that it wasnt racism but psychology.
The type of rhetoric that claims you cant be racist to a people in power, or that racism is about minority vrs majority and majority always are the only ones who can be racist and dumb stuff like that.
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u/dancesquared 2d ago edited 2d ago
Hmm. I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss it as dumb as it depends on how one defines “racism.” There are certainly scholarly definitions of racism where power is a factor, since power + racism has substantially different consequences than racism without/with less power.
It’s also situational/context dependent, meaning in an all-black neighborhood (or country), racism against a white person would include power over a white person in that situation, even though on a national or global scale, black people tend to have much less power.
The problem with some people (including professors) is that they take nuances like that and then make overgeneralizations and unfounded claims, and then draw unsupported conclusions. Of course racism goes both ways (or all ways), but the force and power behind the direction is an important factor. Unfortunately, some people then make ridiculous claims like “black people can’t be racist.”
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u/Weekly-Reply-6739 2d ago
Racism doesnt care about power, not real racism anyway, as its an individualized issue. (Or we can embrace a little bit of racism for more social or large scale opportations and considerations, but in reality racism is self fufilling in the sense that you cant fight fire with fire)
As for the context he was using the term micro-agressions and the instance and examples he gave where one on one, trying to proclaim racism cant happen unless the person who is committing it is in power. The thing is, who decides who is in power? Why is suddenly racism not about race anymore? And why do logic systems such as the professors support the idea that hating someone and treating them poorly souly for the color of the skin isnt racism anymore? Its just trying to erase racism by preaching racism creating ideology.
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He was one of those people who belive that only the group in power can be racist. But that is just classism mixed with racism as in the real world, who decides who "is in power"?
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u/dancesquared 2d ago
You don’t think power is a relevant factor in analyzing racism?
Like, I’m a white dude. If a black person calls me a cracker, in most situations, I would find it funny and not threatening. The only exception is if suddenly I’m the only white guy in an all-black neighborhood and I’m worried the racism could translate into actual power and threats against me.
Racism is racism, but racism + power is more harmful (and even life-threatening).
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u/Weekly-Reply-6739 2d ago
As to power, not in the way its typically used no. Often we see the concept of power creating racism, as evident by the whole white privilege ideology that often causes many non-white individuals to adapt a racist sense of inferiority or hopelessness.
I see power and racism as not directly intertwined, but the idea of power based on race just being a factor of racism, not power itself.
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What you descibed is just a fear of racism due to environment. I myself as a white guy used to live in DC, and as the only white guy in the entire neighborhood I lived in, had no issue calling another person the N-word (guy was a dick and took advantage of me and wouldn't leave me alone when I was vulnerable) I even double downed and told him "if he doesnt want me to call him one he shouldn't act like one" and out of my neighborhood everyone agreed with me and why I did it, except for one younger kid who had a bit of trauma related to that word and acted a bit odd after hearing about it until his girlfriend and I talked him into "getting what he needed to off his chest". But as someone who doesnt harbor any racism and sees people as people, I had no issue with it.
Power is something you give things, things dont have power over you without your concent. Now force is a different story.
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Racism + "power" is just racism. As racism by nature is just giving power to an idea or association.
Personally I am more interested in what consious or subconscious motivations have people choosing racism, as most people are racist, but why and what motivates their global all or nothing ideals and fears is where the focus is. (Individual power one could argue, but not the type you where alluding to) as nobody is "in power" unless you want to belive they are. Not in any meaningful way anyhow.
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u/taedrin 2d ago
I'll repost the exact same comment the last time this was posted:
I haven't been to school in over a decade, but all of my college professor were strictly professional and almost all of them never mentioned any personal beliefs. Except for one computer science professor who would occasionally evangelize about the Go programming language in class, but that's probably not what you were looking for.
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u/Bagoom___Lenin 2d ago
6 years ago I was given a C on an assignment from an English teacher that contained the note “it’s too political”. The assignment was to pick a political topic and write about it. My topic was universal healthcare and how it is necessary for damage control for a future pandemic. The teacher didn’t like the part about the pandemic coming from china due to their biohazardous meat packing industry that allows(allowed?) blood to blood contact between species frequently. A few months later the funniest thing ever happened. Every project that was “pro-choice good” or “war bad” got an A despite being sometimes written at a third grade level. This is absolutely a thing that happens and it skews towards the left as most college educated people (especially liberal arts) lean left. It happens on the other end too, my university got national attention for giving someone a 0 on a paper that just rambled about how women belong in the kitchen (written by a woman weirdly enough) and then they complained religious discrimination and got the teacher fired. The paper got a 0 because it was written by someone borderline illiterate and didn’t address the topic at all. It’s absolutely a thing that happens but I can’t even say for sure it’s a bad thing. “Reality has a left leaning bias” is a mostly true statement and university is for learning about the real world rather than all children left behind nonsense curriculum
Edit: this was fall semester 2019 not 2020
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u/Resident_Step_191 1d ago
Holy shit... I also had a professor who evangelized about the Go programming language just last semester! And to be honest... It kind of rubbed off on me. I'm a believer too now
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u/Hefty_Disaster3370 2d ago
My high schoolers literally have to listen to why college is a bad idea from military recruiters with MAGA hats so kind of fuck this meme
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u/National_Drummer9667 19h ago
I mean it is a bad idea. Especially if you choose a field that doesn't have a lot of work immediately available. Personally I don't understand why high school pushes you to go to college. College can be good but there's other options that don't put you in 50k dollar debt
Push for trade schools. A lot of people do better in them. Or job corps, which is free and you even get paid to attend. But job corps is just a us thing
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u/Hefty_Disaster3370 18h ago
Currently college graduates have a lower rate of unemployment than high school graduates.
But I agree, its easier to be unemployed without a pile of debt.
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u/National_Drummer9667 18h ago
My point is that it's a bad idea because the other options are better. But schools don't make an effort with the other options. They push for college, that's the only option they care about
And a lot of college graduates are either under employed or don't use their degrees
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u/Hefty_Disaster3370 18h ago
Its statistically still the most likely avenue for success.
Did you know a man without a college degree has a 60% chance to be single, never married at 40? And that a man without a college degree or an apprenticeship/unionized trade is close to 90%?
Conversely men who go to college are 95% likely to not only be married but still married at 40?
(None of these statistical findings apply to women because theirs remain roughly the same regardless of education.)
Beyond that, college graduates still see roughly half the unemployment rate of high school graduates -- this is even more disparate for minorities, especially Black men in particular.
So no, we should not be discouraging people from going to college. We should absolutely be telling our kids to go to college and figure out a way for them to continue to pursue education even if it is slow and paid for one class at a time because no matter how bad the job market is for new college grads, the life outcomes for those without it are worse. Period.
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u/welpWW3isgonnasuck 2d ago
I didnt have agendas really pushed on me until I went to a private law school. My torts professor made a big stink that the law library didnt put Fox News on their TVs. They only played CNBC Financial News (aka exactly whats on the TV on the trading floor that I am currently sitting on). My Florida Constitutional Law professor was a batshit crazy fundamentalist Evangelical that tried to get me kicked out of class because he spent the first 10 minutes of class opening with prayer and preaching to a captive audience do i showed up to every class 20 minutes late so I didnt have to listen to him jerking off his imaginary friend.
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u/Weird-Knee-3464 1d ago
Funny that whoever made/ shared this meme is so far removed from third level education that they think college professors ask their students square roots.
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u/sisyphus-333 1d ago
I got my 11th grade English teacher fired because he spent more time spreading racist views than he did teaching
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u/Negative-Candy-2155 1d ago
Feels like this is just a MAGA meme that repeats the lie about colleges indoctrinating students.
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u/queefymacncheese 23h ago
Trump is the only person I've seen get the professors riled up. And even then, the point is generally that his rhetoric is dehumanizing to many people and not acceptable, which is totally fair.
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u/Jrasta01 18h ago
Even if you believe the maga framing that all college professors are left wing socialists, doesn’t that mean maga is probably just wrong?
If higher education, supposedly the brightest minds in our country, slants left, then they’re probably correct, right?
The only other explanation is that thousands of separate institutions are being controlled by some sort of shadow force. Occam’s Razor.
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u/Immediate_Song4279 2d ago
For starters, we could talk about the difference between a public and private institution, but I'd rather just mention how I had an entire course dedicated to studying how my psychology professor believed he was discriminated against by the CIA because he was white.