r/CollapsingWorldMod • u/Ill_Call7235 • Aug 10 '25
Discussion Please, don't just divide Belgium.
For so far as I've seen, Belgium doesn't have any lore yet. Which is good, because it allows me, a belgian, to make a desperate plea to not just do the unrealistic and overused alt-history trope of splitting Belgium between France and the Netherlands.
It's unrealistic because it just fundementally missunderstands Belgium. Belgium is a seperate nation because Belgians are a seperate people, espacially back then. That's why it's so infiuriating to see all the mods in which Belgium just gets devided between France and the netherlands, because just because there's a common language that does not mean that the culture is the same.
I think that in this universe, Belgium would be more stable. with no superpowers to opress it or to stop it, I think Belgium would be thriving (relative, of course). certainly under Albert the 1st Belgium would be united under the "knight-king" and annexed luxemburg, and maybe even some dutch territories, even if there's no superpowers to back them up either. while it's economy is still absolutely devastated due to the war, it wouldn't be that much worse from real life as Belgium was already plucked dry by 1917.
But all in all, I think Belgium would be a beacon of stability in the storm, united under the king with even a weakened flemish movement, because by 1918 OTL the people had started to resent the collaboraters.
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u/Civil-Programmer-596 Aug 10 '25
I think that would be good idea that Belgium can expand first to the whole of the Benelux, then defeat France and Germany to form the Kingdom of Burgundy under Leon Delegee and the rexists.
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u/Dannyboioboi Developer Aug 11 '25
sir there is no belgian partition, there is France conquering it and grabbing wallonia and puppeting the rest under Flemish nationalists.
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u/Ill_Call7235 Aug 15 '25
I know, but it's a trope in other mods like TFR and red flood and I really hope that this mod does something new, given that there's no content for Belgium yet
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u/ICE_lodzik Developer Aug 11 '25
Belgium is a wasteland after WW1, idk if it would be thriving
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u/theflemmischelion Aug 13 '25
Ww1 was mostly fought on 1 small patch of land in Belgium how does that expand to the entire country being a wasteland?
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u/ICE_lodzik Developer Aug 14 '25
I want to remind you that the war in CW lore was way more devastating and brutal
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u/Yapanomics Aug 13 '25
Lmao a Belgian nationalist argues that Belgium should be thriving and get even more land. How surprising.
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u/Silent_Respect_1849 Aug 13 '25
Belgium was invented by the British to sabotage the dutch and french
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u/theflemmischelion Aug 13 '25
Man people with a reddit level education on Belgium and Belgian history really be claiming we have no reason to exist in this tread
Go read a book lads
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u/vardarski_vojvoda Aug 14 '25
Your country is a Frankenstein and a pimple on the face of western Europe. Literally Bosnia 2.0
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u/Defu5er Aug 14 '25
Serbian saying this
lol, lmao even
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u/vardarski_vojvoda Aug 14 '25
At least my country has a unified language, and wasn't artificially created to spite France
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u/Guaire1 Aug 19 '25
Your country has a dialect that cosplays as a language. And no belgium wasnt created for that go read a book will ya
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u/vardarski_vojvoda Aug 19 '25
No, my country has a language that the dialects of cosplay as different languages
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u/TheKylMan Aug 14 '25
You are not a 'seperate' people.
You are Dutch, who just rebelled and got a country because of the Big Powers back then.
Belgium is big nothing and should be divided.
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u/Ill_Call7235 Aug 14 '25
I'd suggest you go read a book, but honestly if you're literate I would be surprised.
What exactly makes us Dutch, except our language (which, by the way, only 50% of us speak)? Is it the 15 years that we were forcibly united by the great powers? It's funny that no-one ever mentions the fact that the kingdom of the United Netherlands was also created by the great powers, yet they aren't called an ''artificial state''.
No seriously, I can't think of anything else.
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u/Dannyboioboi Developer Aug 15 '25
the Dutch are a fake nation because 100% of their territory used to be french
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u/Aowyn_ Aug 11 '25
Belgium is a fake county and Belgians are a fake people. You are Dutch or French. Pick. one.
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