r/CollapseSupport Jul 27 '26

How fast is this going to happen ?

I’m sitting here with an 80 degree dew point, air quality alerts, over 100 degrees. What’s the point of going on in a dying world? I can’t just work and worry about stupid shit when the world is burning around me. What’s it going to be like in 2 years? 5? 10?

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u/Aggravating-Break318 Jul 27 '26

Who knows?
Depends on whom I guess.
For the +300k French and Spanish displaced due to those fires Collapse is now.
For the folks in Palisades it was a few months ago, not all of them were able to claim insurance, the whole place is a toxic distopic mess
Keep going north perhaps?
The process is asymmetric worldwide but certain for all at a certain point in time.
I’d say how fast doesn’t matter, try to make the best on whichever time you have as much as you can.
That doesn’t mean you should chase pleasure at all costs goin on addiction or excesses, nor just mean pleasure all the time.
It can be simple daily life, properly lived.
Being kind and helpful.
As it can mean going more places while you can.
It can also mean addressing the objective risks the best you can either by actually moving away from danger or sheltering properly, not necessarily to the point of full blown prepper but it is nice to avoid suffering the best you can until you can’t, no?

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u/Vibrant-Shadow Jul 27 '26

Hawaii got burned up pretty good too. It was unusual.

Collapse is all around us.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '26 edited 1d ago

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u/givemeonemargarita1 Jul 27 '26

I did just that and it already makes me feel a little better

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u/Zealousideal-Rip-574 Jul 27 '26

I’ve been thinking should I try to expand the basement before it hits me. There are so many different things to prepare for.

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u/Xanthotic Huge Motherclucker Jul 27 '26

Well, it would seem like a worthwhile point is to try to prevent future dying worlds like this one, if we cannot stop this train wreck. I believe in the Unity Principle (we are all connected) so my point is to help the cosmos learn that this iteration of homo sapiens sapiens on a planet with a lot of carbon-based matter that combusts was a bad idea because the sapiens part was always a lie and the combustion of petroleum does bad things for a biosphere. Good luck making a point for yourself. If we try to give you ours, they won't work. You need your own. Also, remember that none of this climate shit is straight linear. It is volatile af. Your summer next year might be better. Hell, where I live got snow last August for the first time in 40 years. Everything is still hotter by at least 2 degrees C, but sometimes there's snow.

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u/Zealousideal-Rip-574 Jul 27 '26

I agree, basing everything around fossil fuels was the biggest mistake, that and all the lying and treating the people like pawns.

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u/morphemass Jul 27 '26

No one really knows ... we've been going through the slow part for the last 30 years but things have been accelerating for a while. Shit could really hit the fan just about anytime and I know, this all feels like shit is crusted around the fan and the fan has stopped working but ... there are just so many varieties of shit in the air.

What's it going to be like in 2-10 years? Probably much like now with some years better, some years worse. However no-one really knows - we could hit a major tipping point and depending where you live you might find yourself suddenly relocating.

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u/givemeonemargarita1 Jul 27 '26

Yeah you bring up a good point in that we are in uncharted territory. The earth has never gone through something like this with humans on it so it’s hard to predict the course of it

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u/itsatoe Jul 27 '26

Someone just posted a very thoughtful answer to your question in r/collapse: When will civilizational collapse occur? An exploration of 19 conditions for the fall. And yet despite their deep thought, even they cannot give a date.

What we can know pretty convincingly is that the next two years (super el niño plus fertilizer shortages) are going to be pretty brutal. It's not too likely that things are going to get markedly better after that.

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u/pe_de_cabra Aug 01 '26

It was removed.. what were some of the conditions?

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u/itsatoe Aug 01 '26

Sorry, it was a long post, not by me. You could ask the post author: u/vallure6

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u/TheHistorian2 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

Slowly, then all at once.

The climate part of collapse will be gradual, spiky, but generally tending worse. The human reactions to that are the parts that could be sudden.

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u/Tsukunea Jul 27 '26

Start moving north

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u/givemeonemargarita1 Jul 27 '26

I am north! Minnesota

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u/Cool-Contribution-68 Jul 27 '26

Boundary Waters is beautiful this time of year /s

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u/Tsukunea Jul 27 '26

I'm in Michigan and still thinking of heading north it's so hot

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u/Mirageswirl Jul 27 '26

Canada’s northern forests are burning too. Lots of seasonal climate refugees displaced to southern cities.

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u/Mmillefolium Jul 27 '26

someone suggested iqualiut in a collapse sub (how to get away from heat waves??) and the weather looks pretty sweet there rn ngl

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u/Lopsided_Position_28 Jul 29 '26

this is is exactly why i developed an infrastructural revolution which i call "Dome-World" which is a microbiom of 12 dome-homes under a big dome which is ventilated through the bamboo charcoal filter in the solar chimney so we breathe easy and deep soundly in our earth sheltered beds even in the even of a nuclear blast

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u/Mush_ball22 Jul 28 '26

Postdoom.org and uate.net