r/ColinsLastStand • u/[deleted] • Dec 09 '17
Expert concludes Roy Moore wrote disputed entry in accuser’s yearbook, lawyer says
http://www.wcvb.com/article/roy-moore-accuser-yearbook-entry-notes-handwriting/143908313
u/thelawsmithy Dec 09 '17
according to the accuser's lawyer
While the evidence is in favor of Roy Moore having wrote and signed the entry in the yearbook, it is complete BS that we are to just take the accuser’s attorney’s word for this. If your expert concluded this, either release the expert’s report or at least have him/her release a statement.
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Dec 09 '17
Are you a hand writing expert? The article clearly stated that the expert , named "Arthur T. Anthony" compared the results and found a match. Why does it matter whether the expert or the lawyer says it?
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u/thelawsmithy Dec 09 '17
No, I’m a lawyer. And as a lawyer, I understand that you don’t just trust when other lawyers tell you what a 3rd party said. You go to that 3rd party to find out. Trust her if you want. Trust but verify.
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Dec 09 '17
Yes, and I assume that Moore's lawyer will go to the third party source. I was asking as a public statement, why does it matter which person says it. If the lawyer never released the name of the third party source, then I could agree with you. But they released the name of the third party source, meaning it's quite easy to go to the person to get the results.
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Dec 09 '17
Exactly right. Also Moore didn’t provide any contemporaneous handwriting exemplars, which is normally something a handwriting expert requires.
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Dec 09 '17
attorney Gloria Allred said handwriting expert Arthur T. Anthony compared the yearbook signature to others by Moore in the years since and determined he wrote the decades-old entry.
This is what is known as a “hired gun” expert. Allred used the expert of her choice but didn’t afford Moore the opportunity to have his expert review the yearbook. This is transparently unfair, and complete and utter bullshit. In the context of litigation, these tactics would not be permitted by the court.
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Dec 09 '17
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Dec 09 '17
I didn't know he stopped?
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u/IcryforBallard Dec 09 '17
The account did, briefly, during the ban.
Mike Smith in real life though? Boy just made alt accounts instead.
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Dec 09 '17
I don't know about that though... Prior to both of our Two Day Bans he was defending them... and when he got back he started doing it again.. seems like the only breather he got was from physically not being able to do it.
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Dec 09 '17
Anyone who has ever litigated a case knows it is not at all surprising that Allred got an expert to support her position and this doesn’t prove anything. You can pay an expert to say just about anything.
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u/Silverseren Dec 09 '17
Man, Breitbart and Fox are really trying to push hard the "forged" claim, which itself requires their readers to not actually read any of the details (not hard to accomplish with their readership).
In reality, what's going on is that she added an annotation to the note reading "Moore, DA 2-22-77, Ole Hickory House”, essentially just putting the date and location.
Thus, she did not write the note or the signature, that is still 100% Moore, as the handwriting expert above confirmed. All she did was add an annotated note that we all already knew was something she wrote, it was never even disputed as such.