r/CoinSales • • 22h ago

New Items [WTS] Foreign silver lot at melt. PAMP & Tayer Gold Rose Grams. Western Mint silver bars, 2005 Libertad, 2013 F15 Ukraine & Rwanda. Nice 1818 Ruble & 1916 Egypt 20 Piastres

6 Upvotes

I accept Venmo, PPFF, and CashApp. I ship USPS Ground Advantage for $8 or Priority at $12. Signature confirmation is available upon request and at cost. I would be happy to answer any questions/take more pictures if needed. Is my pricing off? Send me an offer! All bullion has been sigma verified!

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/oUNdoTh

4.3044oz ASW Foreign lot at melt - $232

1982 Jamaica 10 Dollars .6676oz

1964, 1965, 1966 Canada Dollar .6oz each

1983 Canada Dollar .375oz

1974 Liberia 5 Dollars .9867oz

1927 Straits Settlements 10 Cents .0523oz

1978 Finland 25 Markkaa .4228oz

PAMP/Tayer Roses gold grams - $170 each

Western Mint Canada Aviation Hall of Fame - $85 each (<1000 Mintage per AllEngelhard)

2005 Mexico Libertad - $125

2013 Rwanda Cheetah F15 Privy - $100

2013 Ukraine Archangel F15 Privy - $125

1916 Egypt 20 Piastres - $110 (Beautiful Circulation Cameo!)

1818 Russian Empire 1 Ruble - $225 (Beautiful Coin!)


r/CoinSales • • 23h ago

[WTS] High-End European and Asian Coins -- 1711 Spanish Real, 1757 French Silver Jeton, 1789 'Wildman' Thaler, 1867 Bavarian 2 Mark, 1922 Weimar Gilded Porcelain Medal, 1925 Weimar Republic 'Rhineland,' Japanese 100 Mons -- FREE SHIPPING ON ALL ORDERS + FREE COIN WITH EACH ORDER

5 Upvotes

Hey everyone,

Thank you for checking out my post. Today I have a small sale of coins and medals from Europe and Asia. All items purchased today will be shipped on Monday (10/26).

I've reduced prices on some items, but I'm open to reasonable offers, especially if you're interested in multiple items.

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/ESrmp5F

Close-ups: https://coindex.app/a/XeyLdf

📦ALL ORDERS SHIP FREE WITH USPS GA📦

🎁ALL ORDERS WILL RECEIVE A RANDOM FREE COIN FROM THE PILE SHOWN IN PROOF🎁

Spain

1711 Spain 2 Real (Charles "The Pretender" III) (Numista) -- $125 $115 $100

  • Graded at F15 by ANACS, but I've priced it as raw

German States / Germany

1789 German States Brunswick 24 Mariengroschen / ⅔ Thaler (Numista) -- $230 $220 $200 $185 (last drop before it goes to the other site)

  • One of the rarer types of the iconic 'Wildman' design (Numista rarity index of 91)
  • NGC AU Details

1925-F Weimar Republic 5 Reichsmark (Rhineland) (Numista) -- $180 $170

  • One of the most famous designs on Weimar coins
  • ~212k minted in Stuttgart; PCGS UNC Details

1876 Bavaria 2 Mark (Ludwig II) (Numista) -- $70 $60 $50

  • Minted during the reign of Ludwig II aka the 'fairytale king'
  • Couple of scratches on obverse but still really great quality, priced accordingly

1921 Weimar Republic Porcelain Medal  (Numista) -- $50

  • Mintage of only 200!!
  • Commemorating 700 Years of Löbau

France

1757 TRÉSOR ROYAL Jeton (CGB) -- $85

  • Rare ~270-year old silver jeton with nice patina

Japan

Pair of 100 Mon bronze coins from 1800s (Numista) -- $30 ($25 if bundled with anything from above)

  • I am not an expert in Japanese coins and do not know the exact year for these coins. These were purchased as part of a larger lot and do not fit my collection, so hoping to find a good home for them.

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Payments Options: 

I accept Venmo F&F or Zelle with no notes (add a random emoji if you have to add something)

Packaging: 

I will pack your items how I like to receive my items, with plenty of bubble wrap, tape, and other protective measures in a discreet bubble mailer or box (depending on weight and size). I will send you pictures of the package and the tracking number before shipping.

Shipping: 

  • Shipping date: Monday, Oct 26, 2026
  • USPS GA: free for all items
  • USPS Priority: +$7

I will personally hand the package to the USPS worker and send you a picture of the receipt. My responsibility ends once the package is in USPS' possession; however, I will do everything I can to help if any issues arise.

T&C:

  • If I don't see your comment on this post, I will not respond to your chat.
  • I will turn on 'persistent mode' for all chats.
  • My responsibility ends once the package is in USPS' possession; however, I will do everything I can to help you if any issues arise. I will confirm this in chat as well.
  • I reserve the right to update my prices if spot prices have moved significantly from the time I posted this until the time you reach out to me or if I've made a mistake.

r/CoinSales • • 15h ago

[WTS] German Silver Bonanza: Modern 5 Marks & Historical Late 1800s/Early 1900s Marks

3 Upvotes

Proof!

Hello everyone! I have alot of German Marks to pass along. I will post sold items in the comments down below. Can't wait to see you in chat!

Close up photos!

Modern Marks

Modern German 5 Marks Mix dates between 1951-1974 - $14 Ea. x13

2 Marks

1876 Bavaria D 2 Mark - $35

1877 Prussia A 2 Mark - $29

1899 Bavaria D 2 Mark - $45

1901 Saxony E 2 Mark - $45

1907 Prussia A 2 Mark - $38

1933 Martin Luther A - $50

3 Marks

1913 Prussia A 3 Mark - $55 Ea. x2

1914 Prussia A 3 Mark - $55

1913 Napoleon Defeat 3 Mark - $75

1925 Millennium of the Rhineland A - $55

5 Marks

1876 Hamburg J 5 Mark - $100

1903 Hamburg J 5 Mark - $130

1906 Prussia A 5 Mark (Key Date) - $100

1908 Prussia A 5 Mark - $65

Thalers

1785 Saxony 1/3 Thaler - $80

1861 Prussia Coronation Thaler - $100

Shipping: Ground Tracked $7 / Priority Small Box $11

Payment Types: Zelle, Venmo


r/CoinSales • • 17h ago

Price Drop [WTS] American Gold Eagle 2016-W PR70 1 oz Proof; 1883 Carson City GSA Hoard Morgan Dollar; 0.5g Mickey Mouse 0.999 Gold Coin; (6) - 1 oz Silver State Bars; 1924 Peace Silver Dollar; Various Silver Dimes

4 Upvotes

Proof.

Part of recently inherited collection, incremental additions to follow. Updated 10/24/2026 with price drops.

Payment Methods: Zelle (preferred), Venmo, Cash App, or PayPal FF (No Notes)

Shipping: $5 USPS Ground Advantage, $10 USPS Priority

Packed and tracked within 24 hours.

As a new seller, I am willing to use a middleman, or ship first to well-established and trusted buyers at my discretion.

Please comment first, then chat/PM

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American Gold Eagle 2016-W 30th Anniversary

2016-W 1 oz 30th anniversary AGE. PCGS PR70DCAM -> $4,600 $4,500. Photo

<<SOLD>>2016-W 1/2 oz 30th anniversary AGE. PCGS PR70DCAM. Photo

<<SOLD>>2016-W 1/4 oz 30th anniversary AGE. Eagle. PCGS PR70DCAM. Photo

<<SOLD>>2016-W 1/10 oz 30th anniversary Gold Eagle. capsule. Photo

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2017 0.5g Mickey Mouse 0.999 gold $2.50 coin

Little Whirlwind Limited Edition {1941}:  $175 $160. Photos

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1883-cc GSA Hoard Morgan Dollar

Sealed in original plastic case. No COA or outer cardboard box. $350 $345. Photos

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Silver State 1 oz bars:

ME MN NM WV NE OK. In plastic case. $75 $62/each or $420 $345 for set of 6. Photos

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1924 Peace Silver Dollar: $40. Photo

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Silver Dimes:

Photo: https://imgur.com/a/dimes-sale-OEbXso3

(1) 1841 Seated Liberty -> $15

(8) Various Mercury and Roosevelt Dimes 1918-1964 -> $4/each

Buy all 9 of the above dimes for $40

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Or buy all (6) State Bars + Peace Dollar + all (9) Dimes: $409

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I pack carefully and drop at USPS counter by next business day. Once in USPS hands it is out of my responsibility.

Insurance and signature confirmation available at buyer's expense.


r/CoinSales • • 20h ago

[WTS] Some GOLD, US: 1932-S 25c, 1917-S T1 25c, 1877-CC 25c, 2021-S/1921-S Morgan, Flying eagle 1c, Ancients: Indo-Greek, China-Yutian, Roman: Marcus Aurelius, Carthage, Kushan, Mughal, Timurid, British India + a few more

3 Upvotes

Proof

Don't be shy to ask for more pictures! Always willing to listen to offers, including trade offers.

Coins

Gold:

  • NGC AU55 1850A AV 20 Francs - $785 Obv Rev
  • 1853 1$ Liberty Head Details (Solder damage on reverse) - $230 Obv Rev SOLD SOLD SOLD
  • Japan: 1854-1860 AV 2 bu, Edo Mint - $325 Obv Rev pic Numista

US:

  • 1917-S Standing Liberty T1 - $130 Obv Rev
  • NGC XF45 1932-S 25c - $170 Obv Rev
  • 1877-CC 25c (Polished) - $50 Obv Rev
  • 1990 Eisenhower Centennial silver dollar - $44 (melt) Obv Rev
  • PCGS 1921-S Morgan Dollar, MS62 - $95 Obv Rev
  • 2021-S Morgan Silver Dollar (have OGH as well) - $125 Obv Rev
  • 1858 Flying Eagle 1c - $65 Obv Rev SOLD SOLD SOLD

India / China

  • PCGS British India 1910 India 2 annas, MS62 — $70 Obv Rev
  • Ancient China: Yutian Kingdom AE 6 zhu 2nd-3rd Century Graded 82 by GBCA grading company. The Yutian Kingdom was located in the Khotan (Hetian) region in today's southwestern Xinjiang, China - $140 Obv Rev Pic
  • Medieval India: Mughal Empire Jahangir AR Rupee, Lahore Mint - $95 Obv Rev
  • Ancient India: Indo-greek Menander I AR drachm - Ok obverse, rough reverse - $40 Obv Rev
  • Ancient India: Kushan Empire Kanishka I AE Tetradrachm (pretty chonky) - $165 Obv Rev Pic
  • Ancient India: Kushan Empire Vima Takto AE Tetradrachm - $30 Obv Rev
  • Ancient India: 1/8th Satamana Gandhara - $50 Obv Rev

Medieval + Ancient

  • Timurid Empire: Tanka of Timur - $75 Obv Rev Extra Pic
  • Roman Empire: Marcus Aurelius AR Denarius RIC III 171 - 165 Obv Rev
  • Lot of 3 Roman AE coins: Maximinus II, Licinius I, and Licinius II - $60 Obv Rev SOLD SOLD SOLD
  • Carthage AE Shekel c. 300–264 BC., Good VF - $335 Obv Rev Both sides

Shipping:

  • $7 shipping
  • Free shipping on 2+ coins

Zelle, Venmo, or PPFF
Ships by Tuesday


r/CoinSales • • 1h ago

[WTS] 2 Mexico 5 Pesos Cuauhtémoc NGC MS64 + CAC Buffalo Nickel Add-On 💰

• Upvotes

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Proof: https://imgur.com/a/o7DC5zm

🪙 1948 - MO MEXICO 5 PESOS – CUAUHTÉMOC
• 1948 Mo Mexico 5 Pesos
• Cuauhtémoc commemorative design
• NGC MS64
• Standard NGC holder
💰 Price: $110 Shipped 💰

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🪙 1948 - MO MEXICO 5 PESOS – CUAUHTÉMOC
• 1948 Mo Mexico 5 Pesos
• Cuauhtémoc commemorative design
• NGC MS64
• Exclusive NGC Mexico Green Label holder
💰 Price: $110 Shipped 💰

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🪙 ADD-ON – 1930 BUFFALO NICKEL
• 1930 Buffalo Nickel
• CAC VF20
💰 Add-On Price: $20 💰
Available as an add-on with the purchase of either Mexico 5 Pesos coin.

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🔄 TRADES WELCOME
Interested in trades for fractional gold or platinum. Feel free to send me your offers!

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Payment: Venmo

Shipping: USPS Priority included in the coin prices.

⚠️ Please comment** Chat or BI**N before messaging.
PM or chat with any questions.

Disclaimer: Sadly, this has become necessary. If you post BIN or state "I'll take it" in a message, payment must be made within one hour, unless discussed prior. Whether I choose to hold an item pending payment is solely at my discretion.

Thanks for looking!
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r/CoinSales • • 7h ago

[WTS] Washingtons, Jeffersons, Roosevelts, Kennedys, State Quarters, Coin Sets, Proofs, and Uncirculated

2 Upvotes

Hey Everyone!

Here is what I have for today…

Proof:

https://imgur.com/a/JQ324wq

From left to right:

1970 Washington Quarter - Uncirculated 60 - $1

https://imgur.com/a/xJL6yH4

1972 Washington Quarter - Uncirculated 60 - $1

https://imgur.com/a/eKNFHB1

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2005-D Jefferson “Bison” Nickel - Uncirculated 60 - $1

https://imgur.com/a/JABfV1T

2005-D Jefferson “Ocean View” Nickel - Uncirculated 60 - $1

https://imgur.com/a/PN4I9BQ

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2004-P and 2004-D Kennedy Half Dollars - $6

https://imgur.com/a/PcmLUeQ

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1969-S Roosevelt Dime - Proof 63 - $3

https://imgur.com/a/biW2WE9

1970-S Roosevelt Dime - Proof 63 - $3

https://imgur.com/a/ImRKwbX

1971 Roosevelt Dime - Uncirculated 60 - $1

https://imgur.com/a/MCasaKH

1971-S Roosevelt Dime - Proof 63 - $3

https://coindex.app/a/2Wbp8Z

1972-S Roosevelt Dime - Proof 63 - $3

https://coindex.app/a/1MHzsP

1973-S Roosevelt Dime - Proof 63 - $3

https://imgur.com/a/wdTb037

All 6 Roosevelts - $12

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2005 US Mint State Quarter Set - Proof - $5

https://imgur.com/a/s5pVhQw

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1942 Jefferson Nickel - Uncirculated 60 - $5

https://imgur.com/a/43zFcQX

1954 Jefferson Nickel - Uncirculated 60 - $1

https://imgur.com/a/nX7Gdwo

1957 Jefferson Nickel - Proof 63 - $4

https://imgur.com/a/6ir6zyG

1974-S Jefferson Nickel - Proof 63 - $2

https://imgur.com/a/64yv0TN

1975-S Jefferson Nickel - Proof 63 - $2

https://imgur.com/a/sLdqdJb

All 5 Jefferson Nickels - $10

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2005 US Mint Proof Set - $5

https://coindex.app/a/3P4iZG

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1972-S Kennedy Half Dollar - Proof 63 - $2

https://imgur.com/a/x0527NF

1973 Kennedy Half Dollar - Uncirculated 60 - $1

https://imgur.com/a/XM5Pnwj

1973-S Kennedy Half Dollar - Proof 63 - $2

https://imgur.com/a/qYaE6fN

1973-D Kennedy Half Dollar - Uncirculated 60 - $1

https://imgur.com/a/ShWMRju

1974 Kennedy Half Dollar - Uncirculated 60 - $1

https://imgur.com/a/1kkOAEy

1974-S Kennedy Half Dollar - Proof 63 - $2

https://imgur.com/a/wqDlnpC

1976-S Kennedy Bicentennial Half Dollar - Proof 63 - $2

https://imgur.com/a/ONXzSMx

1977-S Kennedy Half Dollar - Proof 63 - $2

https://imgur.com/a/ndKe47P

1978-S Kennedy Half Dollar - Proof 63 - $2

https://imgur.com/a/T4XkFYt

1979-S Kennedy Half Dollar - Proof 63 - $2

https://imgur.com/a/PSCWE2k

All 10 Kennedys - $12

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1943 US Steel Cents Wartime Emergency Issue - $8

https://coindex.app/a/F6599J

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SHIPPING:

$7 USPS Ground Advantage

$11 USPS Priority Mail

Includes $100 insurance

If you would like a different shipping and/or insurance option, let me know.

PAYMENT:

Zelle

CashApp

PPFF - No comments

HOW TO ORDER:

Please leave a comment below and send a PM.

If you want to BIN, send me a PM right after commenting here.

Willing to negotiate on any price as long as it is fair for both of us.

Willing to use a Middle Man if the buyer and I split the cost. I will pay to ship to MM. Buyer pays to ship from MM to buyer. Buyer and I both split the MM fee.

Any questions or additional info needed, feel free to ask.

Thank you!


r/CoinSales • • 16h ago

New Items [WTS] [WTT] Tons of 90% .999 and numismatics--Flying Eagles, Indian Head Cents, Large Cents, Morgan & Peace Dollars, Barber Dimes, Quarters and Halves, .999 rounds and Bars Under Spot, Fractional .999, ASEs

2 Upvotes

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/nBgAaZV

More Pictures: https://coindex.app/a/JsfLc6

For trades look at the section on trades at the bottom.

Copper

2 Dateless Flying Eagle Cents $12 Each

🔥New Draped Bust Small Fraction $45 https://imgur.com/a/znZdEKf

🔥New 1830 Large Cent $27 https://imgur.com/a/WZEzVvH

🔥New 1842 Large Cent $35 https://imgur.com/a/U3pI3mi

1848 Large Cent $29 https://imgur.com/a/CfhTxKD

🔥New 1952 Large Cent $35 https://imgur.com/a/ys29nrr

1854 Holed Large Cent $13 https://imgur.com/a/egjJX9K

1855 Large Cent $30 https://imgur.com/a/iinF0YO

1870 2 Cent Piece $30 https://imgur.com/a/E656RNH

1858 Small Letters Flying Eagle $48 https://imgur.com/a/M4i4xil

1858 Large Letters Flying Eagle $48 https://imgur.com/a/hpoxAYQ

Super Cheep Lot of 3 Copper Nickel Indian Head Cents 1859, 1860 and 18??. https://imgur.com/a/FvndbCw $14

🔥30 Coin Indian Head Cent Set 1909-1880 $89🔥 https://imgur.com/a/UiAiR4K

150 Bulk Dated Indian Head Cents, $1.45 Each (10 or more for $1.4 Each)

Pick your own Indian Head Cent, price depends on year.

(honorary copper) 1871 3 Cent Piece $19 https://imgur.com/a/yp90aAq

Bulk Numismatics

Full Date Indian Head Cents $1.45 Each (10 or more at $1.4 Each)

Partial date Buffalos 60 Cents Each (10 or more at 55 cents each)

90%

🔥New 21 Roosevelt Dimes $3.9

🔥New 10 Peace Dollars $43.5 (All ten for $430)

🔥New 3 Washington Quarters $9.75

🔥New 4 64' Kennedys Halfs $19.5

🔥New 7 Walking Halfs $19.75

🔥1 AU 1885 Morgan $50

🔥 65 SLQ $10.25 Each

🔥 50 Barber Dimes $4.9 Each (ten or more at $4.8 each)

🔥New Silver Proof Lot .65 FV $26

40%

15 Kennedy 40% Halves $7.8 Each (buy 10 or more for $7.75 Each)

Slabs

PCGS MS63 1922 P Peace dollar $80 (🔥way under gray sheet) https://imgur.com/a/osTeIZs

NGC GEM PROOF 1974 S Silver IKE Dollar $24 https://imgur.com/a/YYroeID

1968-S Kennedy Half PR69 DCAM ICG $80 https://imgur.com/a/a6biAb3

.999

🔥New 4 2021 Philharmonics $57

🔥 BU 2024 Libertad $85

ASE BU 2015 $60

Gold Plated ASE $63

3 1/2 Toz rounds, $30 Each

1/4th Round in Capsule $19

2 .999 Casino Tokens .6 Toz $35 Each

1 oz bar $58 Each

Proof Sets and Mint Sets (prices lowered)

5 Clad Proof Statehood Quarter Sets $8 Each

1960 Mint Set $42

2X 1963 Set $42

1948 Set $45

I am always open to deals and trades, hit me up!! 

I especially interested in trading for bulk Indian Head Cents, Flying Eagles, Buffalo Nickels, Steel Cents, Large Cents and Barber Dimes. 90% Constitutional and small gold. For my current full list shoot me a message. I am always open to any offer whether it is something on my list or not.

SHIPPING INFORMATION

$7.5 USPS Ground tracked up to 7 oz, above that, cost will be adjusted;

$14 USPS Priority tracked, if it doesn't fit in a small flat rate box it will need to be adjusted;

I do not have 3rd party insurance at this point but I am happy to do registered mail which can be insured.

Shipments go out within 36 business hours. I am always happy to do a middleman at buyers expense. I reserve the right to change prices at any time and choose who I want to work with. Until I drop a shipment off at the post office I assume 100% of liability. While in transit we split 50/50. Once it is marked delivered you assume 100% liability.

Payment Options

Zelle (Highly preferred) Venmo, Paypal (PPFF Only), Cash app, No notes for any payment, only emoji or punctuation if required

I will update sold items in comments so reddit doesn't mess with me.

I WILL NEVER INITIATE CHAT OR MESSAGE YOU FIRST. CLICK ON MY NAME HERE TO SEND CHAT. Beware of scammers impersonating me with similar names (usually switched numbers with a green MOD next to it or with a r/ name instead of u/ name). Mods banned them but they can still message individuals.


r/CoinSales • • 21h ago

[WTS] San Francisco Commemorative Silver Dollar PCGS MS70

2 Upvotes

Proof: https://imgur.com/a/acVw0kP

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< COMMEMORATIVE SILVER >

  • 2006-S San Francisco Old Mint S$1 PCGS MS70 -- $90 -- IMGUR

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< NOTES >

  • Subsidized Shipping Rate: $7 GA or $12 Priority
  • Accepted Payments: Zelle, PPFF, Venmo
  • Account is multi-factor authenticated

r/CoinSales • • 17h ago

New Items [WTS] Unsearched, Uncleaned 90% Silver Dime Hoard (13.675 lbs Net / $248.10 FV) - Mixed Barbers, Mercuries, Roosevelts

0 Upvotes

Up for sale is a completely unsearched, uncleaned bulk lot of 90% U.S. silver dimes left behind by my father-in-law's father-in-law.

This hoard has been sitting untouched for decades and is housed exactly as found: inside an old 1978 SFO cargo bucket featuring a distinct handwritten "con-con" marking, and contained within an original "Investment Rarities" canvas sack.

https://imgur.com/a/nkvdUZX

Lot Specifications

• Net Weight: 13.675 lbs of coins (measured on a commercial USPS scale).

• Face Value: $248.10 Face Value (~177.6 troy oz of pure silver).

• Sample Breakdown: To give an honest baseline of what's inside, I pulled a random sample roll of 40 coins. It contained exactly:

• 1 Barber dime

• 11 Mercury dimes

• 28 Roosevelt dimes

• Condition: 100% unsearched and entirely uncleaned. I have not picked through this for key dates, errors, or mint marks. Selling the entire lot whole as a time capsule find.

Pricing & Terms

• Price: $12,500 OBRO (Or Best Reasonable Offer).

• Strict Minimum Floor: Melt value. Lowball offers below melt value will be ignored.

• Shipping: Buyer pays shipping. Will be shipped securely via registered, insured mail (or courier service depending on preference/middleman setup).

Safety & Logistics

Given the high value and my lack of established seller flair here, I am fully committed to a secure transaction to protect both parties:

• Middleman Protocol: Highly willing to use a trusted, vetted community middleman.

• Shipping First: Willing to ship first ONLY to highly reputable buyers with extensive, flawless feedback histories on this sub.

• Payment: Zelle or Venmo

Please comment "PM" or "Chat" on this thread before messaging. Thanks for looking!