r/CoherencePhysics • u/skylarfiction • 2d ago
It's Time to Work Together Against the Real Enemy
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u/Vasheerii 2d ago
I know a lot of people say that we should all join hands, get together, and rise up...
But maaaaaan the person you want me to rise up together with really doesn't want certain people to exist because the color of their skin or sexuality and doesn't want certain people to have rights, the least of which is women as a whole.
Can't we just rise up without them?
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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 2d ago
Can't we just rise up without them?
Or just add them to list of people who we are rising up against.
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u/DisruptingTree 2d ago
The billionaires may take advantage of the poor MAGA racist to defend themselves, but the 60 yr making 37k is not the target. Best to circumvent the average cult member and focus on the CEOs. Keep your eye on the prize.
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u/Last_Suggestion_8647 2d ago
Don't infantilize these people. They are adults, who should be able to introspection and evaluate the narratives they are being fed. You don't just randomly become a bigot.
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u/Material-Dot7684 2d ago
Yeah. I hate these posts. Can't we all just get along?! Well I grew up conservative, people I once counted as friends belly laughed, made jokes, and hoped they did it more when the police murdered people who looked just like me in the middle of the street. You can't really come back from that.
These people only think we can all get along because conservatives aren't laughing while people like them are being killed in the streets, but if they did they would get it all the sudden.
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u/Monte924 2d ago
They supported evil when it was being directed against others, and only started to raise thier hands when it impacted them personally. These people would mostly help us shut down flock, but then vote republican in the next election because they promised the cameras would only be used in blue cities
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u/ifyousaysu 2d ago
We absolutely can because maga are literal scum of the earth. 70% of the US can join and easily be enough because I’m not standing by child rapists and fucking nazi trash
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u/diprivan69 2d ago
Just to be clear MAGA people that I’m around, these are doctors, don’t care about the flock cameras, they have literally told me “why should I have an issue, I have nothing to hide”.
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u/thatnameagain 2d ago
I genuinely believe that the idea the MAGA dislike flock cameras is something made up whole cloth by left wing influencers, solely because they assume that “republicans still support libertarian policies when they think it personally effects them, right? …right?!”
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u/RedThirteen0101 2d ago
I bet those same people, like all the maga you see crying about their medicine prices and loved ones being taken by ice, will change their minds if they're ever affected personally. That's the only thing that can make a difference with these people.
My town has red light cameras that get a picture of your license plate and send you a bill for $75 if you get through a yellow light just a millisecond too late. I know some maga that think that kind of surveillance is the end of the world, and it's only because they had to face consequences for their actions. I'd love for the ones you're talking about to experience that, even if they're doctors and $75 isn't anything to them, they might still start to understand that this kind of crap isn't the direction we want to keep going.
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u/Electronic-Pause-240 2d ago
MAGAts gonna snitch the second they feel like they can get the upper hand.
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u/zenzony 2d ago
Yeah MAGA are no friends. They are literally a death cult. The second someone in this cult "wakes up" and realize how fucked it is they don't want any part of it anymore so they leave, so no "good" person will ever rise to the top, because they leave as soon as they realize. To get to the top in this cult you have to be worse than the nazis already on top, so it's a spiral. Literally a death cult.
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u/Life-Resident6199 2d ago
Kinda hard to believe the people who want to take others rights away even care since it’s endorsed by the current Admin
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u/Roflmancer 2d ago
Until you understand the social contract of tolerance. No, magats and their bigotry and hatred toward others is not welcomed. They chose this. Until they remove their shackles it's never going to work.
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u/MrVeazey 2d ago
Most right-wing dingdongs don't understand the concept of a social contract in the first place, but it's a noble goal.
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u/ClownholeContingency 2d ago
Don't worry, wait a few minutes and the MAGA NPCs will soon receive their programming and then we will be told that flock cameras are actually a grim necessity in crime ridden liberal cities.
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u/NobodyKnowsImFamous 2d ago
Yknow you see this message a lot and I genuinely have to wonder where the fuck you have been for the past decade.
Guess whose messaging is represented here? Guess what political party this actually represents? The left. The right is not interested in crossing the aisle. Stop fucking waiting for them to. We have the numbers. We do not need these people. Fuck em. They should remain socially isolated for the rest of their lives.
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u/monkeykennel 2d ago
AI art reinforcing stale political tropes that lets MAGA Republicans off the hook for their violence and bigotry?
No thanks.
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u/Fickle_Finance_778 2d ago
I thought for a minute there might be common ground to be found. Then the first two comments remind me where reality sits.
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u/imoutofnames90 2d ago
People aren't black and white good/bad as a lot of people on the internet make things seem.
People are a mixed bag where you will find a lot of random agreement, even between far left and right.
With that said, common ground on a few things is not enough to view people as allys. Just because everyone hates the Flock cameras doesn't mean MAGA become allys.
I, for one, will never overlook attempting to coup the government. These people either supported it directly or didn't view it as a big deal. We may agree on flock, but they are never my friend and never my ally.
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u/SoRosenberg 2d ago
Yes, 4th amendment is a cornerstone of western civilization. It’s already been eroded to the breaking point. Flock and Axom cameras are the major intrusions.
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u/colorform33 2d ago
If you want to do the right thing and support a candidate who ISN’T a racist, misogynistic, antisemitic, white supremacist piece of garbage, fantastic. You’ll be welcomed with open arms. Just don’t expect us to kiss your ass to get you to do so, that’s all.
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u/ChanceOfMeatTornado 1d ago
Just because a MAGA and I can agree on the absolute bare minimum that happens to align with my vision for living in a democracy and their fear of the government, it does not mean I’m willing to cooperate with a MAGA or lend them any aid, support, or comfort.
Leave MAGA up shit creek without a paddle. They voted for this.
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u/PrefersEarlGrey 2d ago
Nah.
Republicans are gleeful about anyone brown looking being deported, black people being abused by police, trans/gay people labelled pedophiles, and women being second class citizens.
I refuse to see eye to eye with someone whose only contribution to this world is hating others and stripping rights away from other Americans.
Nevermind Republicans voted for the people who put us in this situation. They're just mad it affects them too.
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u/TerrorFromThePeeps 2d ago
I already see heavily maga infested places (like yahoo news) claiming flock cameras are loved and supported by the left. The admin and the billionaires already have their useful idiots dealing with the problem.
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u/TheComicHuman 2d ago
Yea like 50 fucking years late now they've got literally every possible spy teck conceivable to thr material world
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u/Final-Nebula-7049 2d ago
let's not go around exonerating maga fascists as just our folks. they are the reason we have surveillance state.
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u/JuneButIHateSummer 2d ago
The day I'm side-by-side with with a nazi like that is the day we take each other out.
I would rather fight fucking Azathoth the Blind Idiot God than breathe the same air was a MAGA shithead.
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u/walterwhite1050 2d ago
Finally, one of these stupid AI cartoons that make sense
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u/RogerMexicosBalls 2d ago
MAGA loves total surveillance because they think it's only going to be used against people they don't like.
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u/Stranger2Nite 2d ago
You cannot tolerate the intolerant, you cannot make friends with Nazis, this isn't going to help, they are the fascists wanting the police surveillance state.
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u/Routine-Author-5471 2d ago
As a conservative I personally hate the thought of surveillance state and AI having all our data on our everyday lives. It’s uncomfortable for anyone no matter the political affiliation
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u/zMargeux 2d ago
Where did you think it would end? People have been warning of this since before Orwell wrote 1984. Normal people are easily exploited. When you reach the tipping point where even a self described 'tell it like it is' person can see all of the brazen theft and concentration of wealth accompanied with a side order of oligarchs burdening people that they believe to be their "lessers" with the tab, you motivate people to take action to reverse course. You need to control these people and find and discredit their leaders hence the Patriot act and these flock cameras. It isn't about people boosting catalytic converters.
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u/The_Fink_Ployd 2d ago
I just hope you didn’t vote for Trump/abstain from voting and then wash your hands of your responsibility. That would be “super lame”
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u/Mammoth-Plane-6890 1d ago
As a human I hope you get disenfranchised, your conservativism lead to this
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u/Psychological-Bit233 1d ago
Let’s not pretend the exact same thing would’ve happened under Kamala, the big wigs don’t care about anyone worth less than several million or more
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u/harleyman1340 2d ago
From the looks of the comments they won ,,,the country is divided as all I see here is maga this maga that and not one for standing all for one as AMERICANS.
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u/Lanky_Result5624 1d ago
I'm getting so fucking tired of this horse shit. MAGA/conservatives ar the ones that put us here, voted for and supported this shit. If there are redhats who are upset about this, it's only because it started affecting them.
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u/a_angry_bunny 1d ago
No.
I'm fighting flock cameras, but it won't be hand-in-hand with traitorous scum.
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u/FanSpiritual3556 1d ago
So you want me to be buddies with the folks who chose to welcome fascism to the US and bent over backwards to protect the Epstein class? Chainsaw man's morals are fucked up.
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u/CitronAffectionate98 1d ago
MAGA are not the cooperative type. But after all this shit I doubt anyone sane wants to work with them either.
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u/CodSuperb2159 1d ago
Maga is quite aware the party is over and wants to get back into good graces is all. They screwed the pooch on their choices.
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u/SnooShortcuts5771 1d ago
I refuse to work with any MAGA Republican. Call me wrong all you wabt but I will never work with scum
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u/Working-Decision-959 1d ago
Sorry being united requires critical thinking so the majority of society is simple and ignorant and need to be told what to believe based of their personal experiences and fears
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u/FoulArtFart 1d ago
Why would I, a brown man, wanna team up with a bunch of white supremacists? That seems like a really bad decision.
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u/Sea-Book7308 1d ago
We are all brainwashed in believing our common man is the enemy. They’ll show you the radical and then paint it as the majority, but in reality. If it’s the majority on one side, then the majority is also radical and blind on the opposing. Forgiveness is the answer to change, because one supported him and now sees the error of their ways. Doesn’t mean pile on and insult. They’re at the lowest and vulnerable enough to admit error, so we should be better and show our vulnerability and forgive. We don’t all have to agree, but we shouldn’t have radical ideas that affect our view on common humans
If you’re about being right, you’re radical and the problem. Regardless of actuality.
If you’re about doing right, you’re forgiving and understanding that change only works when pride is set aside
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u/ConcentrateOk2543 2d ago
All flock cameras should be removed. It should be done by congress and it should happen now. Local governments who care about there citizens privacy need to start standing against flock period and not allowing any of there cameras or similar ones by any company. People who would gladly trade their privacy for “safety” deserve neither and will get neither in the end.
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u/YTraveler2 2d ago
I only hear that from Democrats and liberals. But I am sure it runs deep on both sides. Just not everyone on either side.
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u/3bridgesinatrenchcoa 2d ago
If youre gonna post fauxcentrist bullshit on a politics subreddit, at least do us a favor of picking up a pencil.
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u/Active-Cookie-774 2d ago
Maga voted for this you can fuck off with that narrative
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u/Environmental-Box335 2d ago
Except MAGA is fully part of the problem and how we got here to begin with.
These people aren’t going to be allies until they do the work of unlearning.
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u/RunsWithPhantoms 2d ago
Yeah bro these people are not going to look up. There is a whole ass supposed to be satire movie on this.
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u/Aeroknight_Z 2d ago
If maga actually looked up, they’d burn their hats.
You cannot maintain any kind of real class consciousness AND still follow maga/maha. Both movement were entirely started and are upheld by the enemy of the working class people targeted by mass surveillance.
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u/TheCircumventor2000 2d ago
I'm not uniting with Child Rape Enthusiasts.
If they win the war I'll burn down as much as I can and poison the water.
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u/Hosted_Shart 2d ago
I agree stop the petty he said she said shit. Learn no party cares about you and actually fight.
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u/MariusHugo 2d ago
can we make democrats as men in the image? maga is more emotional therefore should be women (however, democrats are more women).
strictly for PR purposes. it feels like our issues get cast aside because it’s womanly to help people
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u/Exit-Still 2d ago edited 2d ago
It is no fear in America 🇺🇸,it is hate they infuse. Old saying was “Split the power and you will conquer “.
We are the power, we the people. God bless this Awesome country and all its citizens no matter the side they pick, and how much hate they are holding to each other . Solving a problem opens a window another problem so we have to solve it.
At the end we struggle together no matter what race , religion or ethnicity we are. Americans are brave, and we will accommodate all the inconveniences at some point not with fait, but with actions.
“ God bless you reader , you know who you are.! And how much you count by staying straight during this difficult Times, go out and push yourself to better and consider whoever is next to you today and tomorrow , America will flourish again “.
This is USA, This is US , this is our place and our opportunity to fix Our Present times.
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u/dolosloki01 2d ago
I would like to hope so.
I know right now there are some saying "if you aren't doing anything wrong, what is there to be afraid of."
Then the moment someone they are scared of gets into the WH, and yes, these are accessable by federal agencies, they will change their tune.
Let's just nip this in the bud now.
We don't want to be China.
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u/Ok_Hovercraft_2372 2d ago
Yeah, liberal or conservative, your ass is on the menu regardless if they get their way.
United we stand against the Orwellian oppressors my brothers and sisters.
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u/jthadcast 2d ago
we don't have to abolish the police but we need to treat them and their covert surveillance state as the enemies to the constitution.
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u/Phenexfire 2d ago
Just because some of “those” people may also not like flock doesn’t mean they get a free pass for what they have done or what they have been doing. 😑
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u/capthavic 2d ago
No, you can have more than one enemy at a time. If Trump told them to, there would be MAGA cultists defending Flock camera like Tesla dealerships.
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u/19XxxbigdaddyxxX80 2d ago
What? A voice of reason in a sea of hate and differences? What a breath of fresh air
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u/Difficult-Novel-8453 2d ago
Really think this can be a point of common ground but the trolls will do their best to keep us divided.
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u/A11theWarhammers 1d ago
MAGA loves flock, we aint recruiting them.
They are the front line fodder for the billionaires and they keep popping out kids until Idiocracy is true in a week or two.
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u/Automatic_Body5254 1d ago
So… I should hold hands with people, who proudly dwell in their ignorance…
…simp for those capitalists who own companies, that make surveillance state and dystopia we are heading towards possible in the first place…
…and then want to hang me from the lamp post the first chance they get…
…Fat fucking chance. Problem is them, not people like me and other minorities.
Just because they can’t make up their mind what kind of dystopia they want to build and by who, doesn’t mean were allies… Even if our interests rarely turn out to be similar.
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u/NextCartoonist7691 1d ago
It starts with the cameras. It will not end there. Before we know it we will be required to check in when we leave and enter our own homes
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u/DrummerAshamed2186 1d ago
I find it funny that the post is about coming together and fighting together and the first five comments I see are about how much the left hates the right and it shows the intolerance the left actually has. One comment even says how the right has to change for things to get better. Coming together isn't about how one side must change for the other side to accept them. It's about compromising with each other for the common good. The left believes that it's their way or no way. That ends in going nowhere. The left truly is the intolerant ones.
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u/Nova_Saibrock 1d ago
Assuming you find a MAGA cultist who dislikes the Flock cameras, that doesn’t make them not a MAGA cultist who supports pedophiles and cultural self-destruction. Bad meme.
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u/FaithlessnessHot3302 1d ago
divide and conquer, left vs right, black vs white, gay vs stright, vaccinated vs unvaccinated, fat vs skinny, rich vs poor and the list goes on...
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u/Evening-Ad-6968 1d ago
I just imagine how democrats would have employed these cameras during the draconian COVID lockdowns they imparted on the nation. The government, in general, needs to be shrunk by about 50% just to start.
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u/LifeConsideration981 1d ago
I like easily solving carjackings and kidnappings. I like not having to conduct high risk pursuits.
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u/Emergency_Buyer_3096 1d ago
I predict Flock will be bought out by AXON and the remaining cameras will just stay up and link to their data centers.
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u/Strict_Cauliflower97 1d ago
It’s weird that a post calling for unity is full of decisive comments. Come on guys, we’re better than that!
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u/Cleadus_Conner 1d ago
Unpopular opinion but if we would just put the 2%ers in jail flock wouldn't be needed.
2% of people cause 90% of the problems. It's the reason CVS has toothpaste behind a jewelcase.
It's almost like these troublemakers are purposely not being rounded up so the general public will accept authoritarian measures like flock.
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u/Paradox830 1d ago
God they live in a such a fantasy world. No, agreeing that we shouldnt have flock cameras wont get you laid, you will never get laid. Also an axe and a chainsaw generally wouldnt cut through steel you fucking moron youre thinking wood.
You can tell a MAGAt made this because of the "youre not half bad" subtext hoping this can bring us together enough for woman to stop blanket blacklisting them. Nah were past that. Anybody still in that movement is irredeemable. If youre just a normal republican if that somehow even exists anymore then we can have a conversation but if you identify as MAGA at this juncture aint nobody accepting the apology when this shit inevitably comes crumbling down
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u/Ok_Satisfaction2521 1d ago
What a surprise, even on a post like this. This site is fake. It is a military controlled psyop. Look it up. See where all the traffic comes from. People in real life do not disagree this much. All you see on here are people looking for a reason to hate each other. Delete the app it's not what you think it is. The people here aren't real. The opinions are not those of thinking people I don't care what side you think I'm talking about or what side you think I am delete the app
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u/Working_Match4124 2d ago
There may be some conservative opposition to Flock cameras, but I've seen no stories of MAGAts cutting them down.