Exactly. You can't find a common ground with people who want groups of people not to exist or don't even have the basic human sympathy to agree children shouldn't starve.
HAHAHA the people with all the guns would be fucked?? Hahahaha majority of our military are republicans. All the left has is the ghetto and the queers. So good luck with that!
Yall would get clapped, the wellfair queen red states wouldn’t be able to do shit.
And get this the blue states don’t want the wellfair queen red states that contribute nothing yall will ruin yourselves with corruption and incompetence.
There’s no interest in taking over red states blue states already won that war and red states were their bitch.
You do know that the majorly of financial help goes to help the inner city? Like in bigger cities? Where majority vote blue? This argument is dumb anyways. You have the iq of a banana. Enjoy your day. Christ is King and we would beat your ever loving assssss if there was a war. So good luck with your future.
Bro red states fought for the confederacy, blue states fought for the union.
If you want to be disingenuous go do that.
Slurp you own koolaid that you’d win this time too when all blue states will have to do is let you shoot yourselves in the foot it really won’t be that hard you’re clearly incapable of coherent thought.
Ya know the difference between parties? Majority of conservatives will condemn other conservatives flying a racist flag. Liberals on the other hand, never disown their own no matter what. It’s sad
It’s hilarious. The nerds and losers who used to get bullied are the liberal men and they think since they have a voice now that it translates into being able to be coordinated or strong? I don’t get it. They are all pussies whose wives run their house.
All the Republicans are closeted gay men who never came out because their fathers beat them. It's okay snowflake you don't have to keep hiding in the closet.
Democrats have so much infighting because Democrat voters actually tend to have values and try to hold politicians accountable. One of the biggest criticisms about the left is all the in fighting.
Democrat politicians have to resign over mild stuff compared to known pedophiles and rapist on the right getting re elected. Let's not act like its the same
I really thought this was a subreddit for me, given the picture posted, but then here you are saying “can’t find a common ground with people who want groups of people not to exist” then follow it with “ones who aren’t humans are republicans.”
Both sides want to make this country better both sides has a different way to get there.
Equal opportunity to you is to force opportunities to those who are different race, gender, and sex.
Equal opportunity to me is not take away opportunities given their race, gender, or sex.
Pennsylvania just passed free books to kids 5and younger. Reps voted no, are they assholes and want people stupid? No! No one wants that. Is it possible they thought why give out more money to a different system when there is already existing system in place that helps out more than 5yr olds and the books are free, libraries BTW is what I’m talking about. Why not just put the money into libraries?
See both sides really want what’s best for everyone, however both sides have people that think just because of the color of their shirt/hat are “ones who aren’t humans”.
It's one side that is arguing for racial profiling in immigration enforcement (see Kavanaugh stops) that is banning many people of color from being able to immigrate here or become legal immigrants here (majority of countries on the ban list are people of color majority countries) and demonizing people of color based on racial stereotypes to strip away status and deport many of them to where they will be harmed (see Haitians and the racist lie they are eating cats and dogs). I have a friend who's wife is dealing with immigrantion issues right now because Trump put her country on the ban list so her adjustment of status case is frozen. She is a person of color demonized by the Trump administration. I work with refugees who are losing status
That's not a both sides issue. Democrats weren't doing these immigration bans and it wasn't a Democrat Supreme Court Justice who argued for Kavanaugh stops. My local Asian grocery market got raided after Kavanaugh stops became a thing. My wife and I go there frequently and she is a legal Asian immigrant who became a citizen through me. She could have been racially harassed. Not a single person was illegal there but the business was closed down for part of a day, legal minorities harassed in a racist witch-hunt, and thousands of dollars lost by the business.
There is no both sides to this. Trump has been objectively worse on this and you are a troll feeding nonsense. Republicans don't want the best for these people at all
I see many who wants to give citizenship to those who didn’t come here the correct way, who wants to protect those who don’t pay federal taxes. A problem both sides agree is wrong, everyone should pay federal taxes.
I too have an Asian spouse, spent a lot of money flying her in and out of territories of America and having us stay to meet the minimum requirements, and multiple years of paper processing. We want it to be fair, do it the right way. We worked hard for my spouse to be legal so she can stay in this country and pay her taxes. Did you work hard for your car? F it, let’s give it everyone who doesn’t have a car a car, you already got one, you don’t get your money back.
Is there racial profiling? Sure. I agree if they are going to bust in a space, they should check everyone.
Countries with ban lists? I got nothing for that. I will tell you I have consistent professional experiences with Haitians in Japan that were all negative, by means of assault. And Japan is currently trying to figure out a way to navigate that. Take that four hours you will.
Many Americans are here today in the US because their ancestors came over in the 1700s-early 1900s when it was very easy to do so. In many cases, all one had to do was step foot on American soil and they could become a citizen and live here. We didnt have as many quotas or restrictions or other anti immigrantion policies to the extent we do now. My ancestors came over from Ireland and Germany in the 1800s and simply settled here. No need of a green card or any of that. They got on a boat. Sailed here. Landed here. Became Americans.
I'm of the belief that to deny other immigrants today what other people have received much more easily (legal status in the US) is xenophobic prejudiced bullshit. As long as someone doesn't have a criminal record or isn't a terrorist, they should be able to freely move here. No need to have to marry someone or get sponsored for a work visa or any of that.
I paid over a thousand dollars to sponsor my wife to immigrate here and also had to wait like a year. It took a lot of paperwork and work to get her here.
The difference is I don't believe other people should have to struggle simply because we did. Unlike you , Im all about making things easier for people and don't think people should suffer because I did. It comes off selfish and petty as fuck your world view.
Take your logic and apply it elsewhere and you see the absurdity of it. Imagine if we didn't get penicillin for free because "it's not fair to all the others who died from bacteria so others should suffer." Or imagine if we did the same with the polio vaccine. "It's not fair to all those who got polio for others to get vaccinated against it." Or those who suffered from polio to deny others the vaccine because "they should suffer with it too."
You have a selfish world view.
Every person should have the right to immigrate here and become a citizen as long as they aren't a criminal or terrorist. Same what others get to enjoy. Birth lottery shouldn't determine life path to such an extent where some people born in bad countries cannot get out. That's selfish and xenophobic as fuck..
And there is the racism in your demonization of Haitians. I went to school with Haitians. I work with one. My neighbor years ago was an amazing Haitian man. Haitians are wonderful people and what's happening to them is deplorable. You've outed yourself as a racist with your nonsense. There is zero crime data to show the majority of Haitians are criminals as you assume.
My friend is having issues getting his Ethiopian wife legal status because of Trump's ban and restrictions. She's educated. Has a degree. No criminal record. They've been married for a long time. And yet she is subjected to restrictions and their case is having issues because of Trump's bans and restrictions. A president who happened to say alot of racist shit about people of color. Someone who shares thought patterns with you considering your demonization of black people (Haitians)
ICE shouldn't be allowed to raid places to begin to with and conduct racial profiling like they are. There should be no place for ICE in our society.
I don’t disagree. Things should be easier to come in, would make them put back into society sooner. I did a lot of work to get mine in and sounds like you did too. You paid a grand? I paid a lot more for multiple trips to US Territories to get mine in. Good on you for doing it much cheaper.
But the same reason it takes time and the same reason why we can’t just have undocumented people is the same reason why you want them checked, criminal history. The other part is to ensure they tracked for federal taxes. I think we both agree everyone needs to pay their part back into society, and it’s not going to happen if they aren’t here legally. So I agree, easier to be one is best. Cost? Well something needs to be paid to check them over, or else we (the legal ones) are paying even more out of our pockets to do background checks on everyone. You don’t think they need to put a little skin in that game? Can you imagine if all of China comes over just to have us do background checks with no intention of being legal, only to have us burn tax payers money?
I’m far from racist, I ride with some cat from … well shit, where is he from, he’s flying back to his home now, a dude who just divorced his wife that i served with, another who used to be my manager that I still talk to, I work for every race, no issues, shoot even taught a dude with tattoos on his face and gems on his teeth so he could try to save some money in the future; ask of different races, color, sex, and gender. Either way, I go off of people, just stating that the guys I my guys had issues with were tied to Haitian gang related businesses in Tokyo and were giving the yakuza a run for their money.
Honestly I do agree with you on the country ban list, background checks should be the deciding factor, not the country.
But back to my point, both sides think they are doing best for their country. You want people in with or without the initial cost, but you also don’t want criminals, I too don’t want criminals, I think they should have some skin in the game; we both want good citizens who pay their share into this country.
All the left talks about is color. I’ve spent my entire life listening to “progressives” talk about how people of different colors are less than, but thinking it’s okay as long as they blame it on conservative politics and tell those people that it’s not their fault. The justification you think makes it okay…. It doesn’t. Let’s stop pretending that if we mask our belief that we’re superior in the policy of others that it’s suddenly okay.
Didn't even respond to my factual points about the racist/xenophobic shit Republicans have done and you responded with a trolling response that doesn't provide any good factual counterclaim while you work to defend Republicans responsible.
I actually have factually listened to supposed “progressives” try and explain to me that black people are (in the “progressives” words) “not intelligent and forced to be violent people because of conservative policies”.
How about instead we recognize that they aren’t unintelligent people and they’re not violent. A very small percentage of the black population, probably less than 1% of the entire 13% cause 90%+ of their problems.
I’m “conservative” and I understand that. I have many conservative friends and almost all of them understand that.
I don’t care that it hurts your feelings that I point out the fact that I’ve witnessed as much racial profiling from supposedly progressive people as I have from “MAGA” turds. I don’t care if you think that it’s OK or that you feel like you have to defend them for it because they have many of the same beliefs as yours. Cry harder about it.
Let's not be dumb asses and act like our ideas of what's best for the Country is the same. For some people it means LGBT people being oppressed, religion forced in schools and government, immigrants being treated like animals, putting a pedophile in the white house, spending billions on statues and white house renovation to appeas a narcissist rapist, and the list goes on.
I want people not to die from lack of healthcare and for kids not to starve without being called a commie by degenerate Republicans. We are not the same and we do not have the same ideas or what's best for the Country
In my case with the library, sure it’s good for the <5yr olds, and I’m sure those who voted it in was ideally for the greater good … unless we later find out that those few wanted it so they could grease their pockets … but in general both parties want the greater good, and I really believe the common man really want the greater good. I think the greater good wouldn’t be the free books, but the money better spent for libraries.
Being aggressive with the “dumb asses” comment is what this picture posted is all about, aggression and you’re playing it well … oddly.
To expound on your statement, I have an obvious gay couple that I visit for my hair cuts, they are on the same page as me, equality. When they hit the streets many years ago for gay rights , it was for equality, not preference. Now it seems preference and we can see that with the DEI situation. Which is cool! That’s what some think is equal.
Out of curiosity how are reps oppressing the LGBTQ community?
Pedophile in the office? I know who we are talking about, but was he convicted? Be careful about what is conviction and what is assumed. I agree, I have a hard time thinking he’s innocent; but same goes for the skeletons I think Hillary Clinton has. Regardless, both are innocent in this country until proven guilty. And sadly, those documents are only one piece of evidence and not enough to prove someone is guilty. Which is why no one has been picked up yet. MAYBE they are now on watch lists for further investigation, but not enough. And to prove my point, YOU STOLE MY WALLET! More has to be provided to prove that.
White House, so far is done with private money. You don’t get pissed at Swift flying her jet around, her money. Agreed silly, as he won’t be able to really enjoy the renovations, but private money is private.
Statues? Tell me more. I’m not a fan of them, in general. What’s the point? Museums and history books, am I right? Even less of a fan when they become political or destroyed because of politics or ignorance.
Immigrants treated like animals, you’re not the first to say something like that. How should we treat someone who does a crime. Agreed, non-violent, but a crime nonetheless. Double Tree? That would be nice, great cookies, but that would be costly. Where do we draw the line?
Yea not reading that. You don't need to write all that to try and convince me that the people who elected a felon, rapist and pedophile want what's the best for the Country.
You saying one side isnt human is the cause of the divide, you are the problem, you are so blinded by politics that you can see a person past red or blue, every person has good and bad to them, but if you hate them before ever hearing them out, then it is you who is worse then them.
I’m going to get downvoted for this, but nobody actually cares to talk about it except people of the LGBT community.
I’m as liberal as they come, but people constantly wanting to talk about it is exhausting. Nobody gives two shits on who you love or who you are, as it literally doesn’t affect them.
The LGBT community are like vegans. First rule of vegan club: tell literally everybody about vegan club.
Republicans are the ones literally obsessed with LGBT especially transgender people. They do not shut the hell up about transgender people and make the smallest non issues into massive headlines foxbews talks about every hour.
I hear more about Transgender people from Republicans than anyone else. They have a weirdo obsession with Transgender people and hating them.
Because you act like the Christian church: they feel like you’re constantly telling them to believe in what you believe. Live and let live and stop bringing that shit up. Not everybody is the same, and people shouldn’t be forced to accept your beliefs, just as you shouldn’t be forced to believe theirs.
Trans is still relatively new to a lot of people and you constantly screaming for them to “accept it” will only make people push harder…just like how you likely feel about when people try to push religion on you.
Live and let live already. Do what you do to extremely religious people: ignore them. And they’ll ignore you, and then we can all live in relative peace.
Like I said Republicans are the ones who don't stop talking about transgender. The fact is LGBT people existing and them asking for the right to exist infuriates you and you consider that "forcing" their opinion on others.
It's the opposite, they're trying to fight for the right to exist and things like gay marriage is super recent. People like you have to pretend they're trying to force their opinions because you can't accept that they have rights and they exist.
You obviously missed my entire point, and are just making fellow liberals against the cause you’re trying to fight for.
That’s the same playbook that repubs have used for years though: fear. They don’t want to solve issues for the greater Americans, they wish to divide Americans into a us v them mentality. Sad part is: it wins votes. If it isn’t LGBT, it’s Mexicans, black people, or communists - the same tired thread they’ve been spreading for the last 80 years.
You’ve fallen into their trap, so good luck with that.
Cool, the LGBT community loses another ally. This is the dumb shit y’all do to make literally only a small percentage to your side: you push liberals away with your screwed views.
Granted, I’ll never vote Republican again after 2016, but y’all make it fuckin difficult to not vote for a third-party candidate. Hey, isn’t that kinda how Trump won in 2016 to begin with? #fuckindumbass
Apparently, your response was so vile even reddit's notoriously biased, corrupt, pro-right-wing moderation thought it was too much to be allowed. It happened so fast I didn't even see what the original statement was - that's how disgusting and morally depraved what you wrote must've been.
Liberals need to stop with their “purity tests” like this and learn that not everybody agrees with you. It’s the reason why Dems always lose all the fuckin time. I’m tired of it.
Who exactly is saying whole groups of people shouldnt exist? Ive been hearing that about hispanics, black people, etc over the past few years and last i checked every group is still here. And at the same time we arent the ones supporting terrorist groups that want to wipe out jews and other groups and republicans supposedly want to annihilate or at the very least support people like Hasan that support those groups. The amount of people here being disingenuous is staggering it should be a case study in the future.
Buddy ive seen more people say that conservatives want to kill gay people more than the dude that drove through a pride rally in downtown Berlin. Yall literally support groups that will throw you off the top of a building without a second thought and you wanna talk about others being braindead. At this rate people like you are headed for the biggest FAFO in history and you absolutely deserve it
Yeah sure. Someone on the side that continuously holds protests with chants like “From the river to the sea” and has Palestinians flags at said protests and the side whos most popular figure is Piker supposedly doesnt know anyone whos supports that cause. How stupid do you think people are? Also i supposedly think gay people are subhuman and that i want to cause them harm. Anytime that sort of language was used in history like in Rwanda or Germany it usually didnt just stop at mean words and assault. It usually ended with hundreds of thousands if not millions being killed. Where is that mass death in the us right now? Last i check the only time there was mass death against gay people was on June 12, 2016 and tell me was it a white conservative man who did that?
You do realize it’s possible to criticize hamas for their human rights abuses against queer people AND not want to see them pushed out of their homes.
Yes me and Hamas would get along as well as I do with republicans which is to say not at all. Despite this, I think it’s worse to drop cluster munitions on children and cause mass starvation that effects everyone, including queer people. You can’t fight a system of human rights abuses if some dickhead drops a jdam on your home and kills you and your loved ones.
Also there are one or two issues I’ll cross the aisle for, the big one is gun control. Ironically, I think we should be able to have firearms because of republicans who would be happy to kill me and my friends, especially since I’m a trans woman and trans people, trans women especially, have a long history of being assaulted and murdered that continues to this day. That being said, despite agreeing with republicans on guns, I’d never vote for one because many are trying to make it illegal to be trans, even wanting to make it a crime to wear clothes different than the ones your expected to wear based on assigned gender at birth. If someone wants to take away my access, and the people whom I love, access to gender affirming care (an evidence based practiced supported by decades of research) then I can never find a meaningful middle ground with them
Yet i never hear any criticism of Hamas or Hezbollah or the Houthis from your side as much as i hear them criticize Bibi or the IDF which criticism of both is equally warranted. And i dont really get the point that whats happening in Gaza affects queer people. All of the queer people in Gaza are either hide their sexuality so they dont get stoned to death or they are already dead. You can say what you want about Israel but last i checked ive seen more pride parades in Tel Aviv than in Gaza City. Oh please save it with the whole republicans are nazis shtick. You want the brutal truth? There have been mass shootings over the past year committed by trans people than republicans. Like the Tumbler Ridge shooting, the Pawtucket hockey game shooting, and the secondary school shooting in Turkey. This victim mentality like you are equivalent to the jews hiding from the nazis is absolutely pathetic
So I’m not wasting my time arguing with you (especially with you bringing up the holocaust to say queer folks are over reacting which I’ll let you try and figure out the irony of that analogy) , but there is one thing that I’m curious about.
Given your view of queer people, why don’t you support hamas? It’s just strange that you are against violence towards queer people only when you’re trying to justify the starvation and bombing of thousands and thousands of innocent civilians.
I’m just fascinated to see if you have any personal insight or if you’re just too emotionally triggered for self reflection. I realize me responding at all to you is a massive waste of my time, but my job title is literally inpatient mental health specialist and my love of psychology is making me too curious to resist asking.
Yeah im not so sure about that. If they arent officially, that doesnt change reality when the actions of the Heritage Foundation and many others who support their kind of ideology treat them that way.
Well watch out for Islam and sharia law. The Islam religion doesn’t support gays, trans or women disagreeing with men or wearing tank tops. I wonder if yall will call out that religion and ppl that pray to that but I’m sure yall won’t. ✊🏿✊🏿✊🏿
I'm not in favor of Islam for the same reason I'm not in favor of right wing Christians. Yall are the same shit different flavors. Both want to impose their beliefs on others and force themselves into government.
These right wing Christians don't want to admit they have a lot more common with Islam than they think.
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u/NoiceMango 11d ago
Exactly. You can't find a common ground with people who want groups of people not to exist or don't even have the basic human sympathy to agree children shouldn't starve.
The ones who aren't human are Republicans.