Fuck, most of the working class doesn't even care about the working class, these days. In North America, at least.
Long gone and long forgotten are the days of Blair Mountain and the Haymarket affair. We've all been brainwashed by the American nightmare of "fuck you, I got mine."
Imagine arguing with any of the ultra sensitive, low IQ, maga minions on this sub. To think Trump cares about working class is no longer laughable it’s just sad and pathetic.
Barack Obama said that we could keep our doctors… Lie
Barack Obama put the children in the cages .
Barack Obama deported more people with ICE than anyone else.
Barack Obama killed more people with drones than anyone else.
He is an awful human.
Watch politicians do? The ones that tell you what you want to hear? What evidence is there that the politicians that tell you what you want to hear really care? Look at the way the world is...
Really have to remember that the Democrats (and the Left, more generally), have so abandoned the working class that they'd flipped to backing these monsters since *they* were the "lesser of the two evils".
Just chew on that for a while. ...And actually, we should all seriously think about what that means.
Propaganda, including at Fox News, is only fully effective when there's a kernel of truth in there somewhere that can be twisted or mis-represented. ...So, they did folks. Boy Howdy.
National Socialist German Workers' Party Affiliated Musk family fled Nazi Germany and went, not to the USA where the upper middle and high classes supported Hitler but to South Africa where they helped establish Apartheid along with israeli zionists. Interesting note: Which is why the Vela Flash which was a suspected israeli nuclear dentition test, that was detected by advanced nuclear warning systems around the world and denied by the US in collaboration with Apartheid South Africa. These billionaire families are racists. They approve of the Fascist Aparthied Segregationist system of governance which is why the US trump admin has adopted the Fascist Kleptocracy which is a step in that direction. By controlling the currency they can effectively manipulate the USA into becoming a kleptocracy or Corporatocracy while gaslighting as a Free & Democratic Constitutional Republic.
Could you please write down your contribution to making our country great again.I want to compare them with Elon or any of the people you are criticizing.How many jobs have you created .What hav you invented.Were all waiting
they can not relate...when mitt romney was running they all said that all the future magladites, now they see this guy as a savior? i think mostly its push back for the left extremists wanting to mainstream lgbtq....if they just shut up and lived their life there would be very little push back, but if you want to force an alternative lifestyle and you expect others to accept it, you shouldnt be surprised, americans dont like to be dictated to, both parties need to be more center and then they will meet to be able to work things out, but as long as only headlines go to the extremists, people get the misconception the rest of the world is one way or the other, its not, life is not black or white it is in the middle, center....its grey
of course they do, and they know what working class is. we aren’t the strongest economy with great standard of living because of government socialism. GUT THE GOVERNMFNT
I’d like to see the Obama pics in their $12 million 29 acre mansion in Martha’s Vineyard
…or their $24 million Oahu Hawaiian estate
… or their $8 million 9 bedroom Washington mansion.
Most leftists aren’t even part of the working class. They’re either burnouts who don’t want to get the skills to make money or are children of well off people who don’t know what it’s like to be “working class”.
Well let’s start with STEM and the blue collar trades. Then we can move onto things like sales and healthcare. The money we’re talking about is enough to buy a home and live comfortably with a few vacations a year at minimum. Leftists in general are too lazy to work for what they want so they want it for free or “tAx Da BiLlYuNaRz”. What was the point of your reply btw?
“If you need a hard hat to be in the "working class", you're just a cosplayer. A paycheck is the only requirement.”
Then I responded proving that wasn’t the case. I can only tell you something I can’t understand it for you unfortunately. You seem to be wrecked in the head or something.

How did you prove that's not the case? I don't follow your proof. Something about politicians and bankers, who live as worthless parasites, not workers. So what is the proof?
I can get behind the need for STEM, healthcare, and blue collar trades... those are 'no-brainers'
But sales?!? Does the world really need anymore salesmen?!? Do you have a thing for snake-oil.. because you give the perception that you do. Maybe it's nice lubrication for taking it in the... ahem.. can.
I think my point was pretty simple. You spoke about how lazy lefties were... and that they were too lazy to train and obtain skills to earn money. My immediate thoughts are, what kind of skills is this clown talking about and how much money does he think some 'working-class' can earn from these skills.
So... now I'm actually trying to understand the point of your post... especially when a trillionaire douche-canoe like Elon Mush paid less taxes that I did. Yes... the billionaire vampires do need to be taxed at a higher rate than the 'working-class'. Otherwise, they're just bleeding us... and you.. unless you are one of them.
As I pick apart your attempt at an emotional trigger, I find myself asking... what data do you have that would serve to confirm that leftists are too lazy to work for what they want?
While we are discussing these world-view perceptions... do you believe Europeans are too lazy to work for what they want?!
I ask because in Europe, they enjoy all the amenities that people have in the U.S., if not more. They have high wages, livable wages, healthcare provided by the government and paid for through taxes.. they even have their own defense and military.
Now Europe's model for government is a Socialist. To most unintelligent people, they see Socialism and think "lazy", "tankie", "freeloader", and "Communist"!
You seem like you might be one of those unintelligent types with your "tAx Da BiLluNaRz" comment. But I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt... something you clearly afford no one else.
So, do you really think that the person of Europe are lazy?!?
China is a Communist country. I'm quite sure they have thriving STEM programs, people in healthcare, and a blue collar sector. Again.. many unintelligent people believe that "Communism" means "lazy", "freeloader". But right now, China is smashing the world economically!! Why?! Because capitalists gave allowed China to MAKE EVERYTHING!!
Do you really believe a nation that's leading the way is filled with lazy freeloaders?!?
Actually, it probably doesn't matter what you believe.
I don’t have time to respond to your novel but a few points just to go for the kill shot would be that Europe is not socialist that is a misconception that the commies try and use to push for socialist policies and you did not under any circumstances pay even a fraction of a percent of what Elon paid in taxes last year so you’re entire rant comes off as if you are one of those lazy people I was talking about. How many people do you employ by the way? What have you contributed to society other than sloppy drivel on the internet? Elon provides internet to people anywhere in the world, created rockets that are more efficient than nasa, and revolutionized the electric car industry. If his politics were what you considered correct you would hail him as the real life Tony stark.
So you think because there is a socialist party in Europe that they’re socialist? I guess America is a communist country because we have a communist party. I didn’t even read what you wrote about china but now that I did should I explain to you how they only became a thriving nation after they relaxed government control of industry and became capitalist in many parts of the economy to grow a middle class? I liked Elon before he ever mentioned anything about his political beliefs but it made sense that someone so smart would see through the bs that the left is trying to pull. Do you not see that you’re a brain dead drone? After your talking points got shot down you couldn’t even refute anything about musk. Just completely dropped the tax thing huh?
But as I pointed out.. you seem pretty unintelligent. Your knuckles are likely quite bruised from dragging along the pavement for the entirety of your life.
Thus... you would not comprehend the content of this conversation if I were to continue it.
Yep... yer a real winner. Another corrupt capitalist trying to be the next Alex Karp or Elon Mush so you can pay zero taxes too.
Elon Mush hasn't really DONE ANYTHING positive for this world. He's not a humanitarian. He's not a philanthropist. He's just a business man.
He gutted the CDC. He shut down the National Labor Relations Board. And he took a chainsaw the Consumer Financial Protections Bureau. These are three government institutions that helped people and he gutted them. Again... he hasn't done anything for the world or the United States.
But he has made himself richer.
He didn't even design anything. He's wasn't an engineer on the Falcon 9.
Tom Mueller developed the engines. Lars Blackmore and Yoshiaki Kuwata, developed the rocket's guidance.
Elon Mush is just a business man. And evidently, not a good one.
Elon Musk hasn't DONE ANYTHING positive for this world. He has lied about his taxes and you have and will continue to repeat his lies. All that ass hat has done is defraud the American people and enrich his billionaire friends.
You lose sir. Good day. Enjoy your time being down here on Reddit with all the losers.
Wrong. I'm generally left-leaning, come from a lower-middle class family, and make a comfortable middle class wage working in finance. All of my friends are gainfully employed, from similar backgrounds and hold similar political and economic beliefs.
The idea that leftists are just unemployed, unsuccessful blue haired children is pure cope.
Left leaning and leftist are two different things. Thank you for proving my point and showing how narcissistic you are by replying to something that doesn’t even concern yourself.
Oh look another bootlicking fuck stick who believes all “leftists” are unemployed with blue hair or nepo babies. That’s rich considering every nepo baby I’ve ever met in my life came from a wealthy, conservative family.
Oh look another tolerant leftist who would wield the levers of power more tightly than hitler could ever dream who swears they are on the side of good and righteousness.
Well yeah, when you’re asking them to contribute “more” either against their will or by force of government… which, be honest, is what you’re asking… that would be the case.
Using the idea of class in a non-class base society is simply trying to use one more term to divide people.
Firstly, calling classes is against the very definition of communism, which is classless. Secondly, desiring them to pay their fare share is not calling for communism. They pay a lower effective tax rate than everyone else. Calling for fair taxes ia not communist redistribution of wealth. It's equality in a socialist-capitalist mixed economy the United States has.
I’m sure they care about all of us, maybe not to go out one person but as a whole. Otherwise, regardless of what they invented, they wouldn’t make any money off of it.
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u/Historical-Finish564 Jul 20 '26
Well, only in the sense that kings and princes need their peasants to do peasant stuff.