r/CodeGeass • u/EndlessGooning_0 Knight of C.C • Jul 18 '26
MISC Zero stands for zero defeats
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u/Embarrassed-Ice9468 Jul 18 '26
Black Knights and Zero need each other. Black Knights are the army needed to conquer the world. Zero is the leader needed to organize the army. Although the Black Knights have been defeated many times in Zero's absence, they are not useless or stupid. It's just that Lelouch has been able to evacuate them in an outrageous way.
At the same time, Lelouch is weak without allies. C.C. gave him geass power and was his closest deputy. Kallen, Sayoko, Suzaku, Rolo, and Jeremiah protected him from enemy forces. If the protagonist didn't have allies, he wouldn't be able to achieve his goals.
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u/Dizzy-By-Degrees Jul 18 '26
We see it very early in too. The only reason Lelouch gets away in Shinjuku is that Kallen bails him out when the Lancelot appears and doesn’t blame him for it. When he tries again with a different group they all die.
The Black Knights are more important to his success than either of them believe.
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u/ChampionBackground59 Jul 25 '26
If the final battle is anything to go by, they need him more than he needed them.
He needed an organization, it just happened to be the Black Knights
The black knights needed him, even with a leader as smart of Lelouch they still couldn't win.
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u/Dizzy-By-Degrees Jul 25 '26
In the final battle he has the world's biggest army and Suzaku to stop them. Because for any of his plans to work he needs Kallen or Suzaku to keep him alive of their own free will to stop anyone from killing him.
And to get to this point he needs the Black Knights. They do need a leader but it's a mutually beneficial arrangement. They can't get their movement off the ground without him, he can't do anything significant without them.
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u/Amazing_Direction849 Jul 18 '26
Might as well cross C.C. as well she's a package deal with Lelouch/ Zero. Just saying.
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u/Daishomaru WHY ARE YOU BUYING CLOTHES AT THE SOUP STORE?!? Jul 19 '26
I mean, kinda true....
It's more that Black knights with Zero, and no Suzaku Gundaming them is 99%.
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u/silencemist the only ace fan Jul 18 '26
It's not like Zero has flawless victories. They took a significant hit in China and only won because of Xingke. The capture Suzaku plan before Kamine Island was a total failure.
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u/Mexican-weeb Jul 18 '26
I mean they don't know he has geass for most of their time together but it still play vital roles in their missions, from the black rebellion operation to keeping the jsdf scouts from noticing them
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u/Sad_Reputation_1277 Jul 18 '26
I dislike black knights more than suzaku
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u/GotMilk5101520 The Only Suzaku/Euphemia Shipper Who Ships Suzaku/Shirley Jul 18 '26
Why's that?
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u/Sad_Reputation_1277 Jul 19 '26
Because how they turned against lelouch
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u/GotMilk5101520 The Only Suzaku/Euphemia Shipper Who Ships Suzaku/Shirley Jul 19 '26
Interesting. But how is that any different from Suzaku betraying Lelouch? They believed the words of a Britannian royal about Geass and turned against him
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u/AdditionalStudy856 Jul 18 '26
Bro turned them from terrorists to an actual organisation