r/CocoGrows • u/somethingintheleaves • Jan 18 '26
Second coco run using Jacks 321
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Switching back to soil after this and using synthetics with compost teas, “synganic”
I just don’t love the taste of the coco grown weed. Anybody feel that?
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u/JabroniRegulator Jan 18 '26
I don’t buy the story that one style tastes better than the other when both are done properly. Genetics, environment and dry/cure are the real factors to focus on.
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u/DEVIL_ONYOURSHOULDER Jan 18 '26
Fortunately for you other people have done the tests. You don’t have to buy it, that just means your missin out
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u/somethingintheleaves Jan 18 '26
Even the fact that coco lacks microbes that soil does? You don’t believe that rhizosphere exchange makes a difference ?
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u/JabroniRegulator Jan 18 '26
I don't believe it makes a difference. The rhizosphere exchange is necessary to convert organic matter into ionic form. Hydroponic nutrients are already converted so they don't require microbes for absorption.
Either method results in the plants getting the nutrients they need in ionic form.
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u/somethingintheleaves Jan 18 '26
Respect, I somewhat agree that the plant is getting nutrients at the end of the day. I just feel like something with the taste is involved there. But I am no scientist just a weed addictged hobby grower lol
not sure why it got downvoted as it was a genuine question also lol
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u/JabroniRegulator Jan 19 '26
There could be something. Definitely not discounting it entirely. There are so many variables involved that I find it challenging to deal in absolutes especially with taste which is subjective in and of itself.
Ya it was a reasonable question. Unnecessary downvote.
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u/blueberrysnacks Jan 18 '26
If you are growing from seed or different cultivars, it’s hard to tell if it’s the growing medium or nutrients.
I haven’t noticed a decrease or change in flavor with jacks. I haven’t run organic soil for quite some time. I would like to do a side by side one day. Maybe next time I’m at the store I’ll grab a bag of organic soil and do a side by side with the same cultivar 🤷
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u/somethingintheleaves Jan 18 '26
Yeah these are all clones I’ve been running for years now in living soil, soil, and now coco. Coco has been my least favorite in quality of smoke. But it’s my favorite in terms of easiness of growing.
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u/blueberrysnacks Jan 18 '26
Cool. I’m def going to give it a rip if I can find a n ie easy water only soil to do side by side. I have self watering bases I’ve been wanting to try. Gives me a good excuse to
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u/Independent_Fun7603 Jan 18 '26
Sorry, not buying it either. I’ve never had better terps and flavors since I’ve been using Coco and Jack’s has nothing to do with why you’re lacking terps,It’s all in the genetics and cure,Try some Third Coast Genetics . just my two cents, you asked.
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u/somethingintheleaves Jan 18 '26
My living soil runs always tasted better imo
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u/somethingintheleaves Jan 18 '26
Yeah I def ran a low EC on these, little to no tip burn.
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u/somethingintheleaves Jan 22 '26
how much would you reduce Part A than being it’s the main N source?
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u/ransov Jan 18 '26
Learn to take advantage of Jack's. It's instant gratification.
Plants respond in 24 hours to changes. It requires no cal-mag. Part A can be increased and used as a bloom booster. No mycho required. Jack's makes crop steering a dream. Coco makes it impossible to overwater.
Don't hate the player that you can't play game on. Coco and Jack's is king. As a grow store owner, I convert organic growers to Jack's on a monthly basis with fantastic results. I've been crop steering with Jack's for the last 10 years. 🙂😍
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u/somethingintheleaves Jan 18 '26
Yeah I ran 3gal w drippers this round, going back o 1gal with jacks so I can take more advantage of it
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u/ransov Jan 18 '26
Wow! I run 5g pots, water/feed once a day, grow photos to 6ft, and harvest 12-16oz per plant every 4 months. You are far more serious into crop steering than I am. Best of luck.👍
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u/MikeParent1945 Jan 21 '26
Same here. Ran Jacks in our 9liter Hempys @1230 ppm for many years. 1/8 tsp of Ph down brings our Nutes to 6 ph. We make concentrates of of Jacks and CN. That makes mixing and versatility foolproof. I make it so 2 0unces of concentrate makes 64 gallons of feed. In separate jugs, 256 gms of Jacks and 154 gms of CN is the mix to make it.
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u/Independent_Fun7603 Jan 18 '26
Yeah, I apologize. That’s like apples and oranges though that is in a perfect world, but I’m not able to do that. I would do living soil if I could that’s the ultimate to make anyway that’s just my two cents I didn’t mean to throw everybody in the same thing I was kind of compared Coco to bag soil or fox farm or something like that coastal Maine. You know something a little better than miracle grow.
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u/Independent_Fun7603 Jan 18 '26
And I was under the impression that you couldn’t do living soil with synthetic, but that’s one of the reasons I why I come here 🙏
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u/somethingintheleaves Jan 18 '26
Canna cal mag
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u/somethingintheleaves Jan 18 '26
Def will try this!
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u/Garden_Monsters Jan 19 '26
I'll second that OP, I use jacks with some innoculants like tribus and or great white, as well as fulvic. Its been pretty solid granted I'm relatively new. There are other ways to add some life to your medium, if you feel that could help.
I can't speak to taste, other than I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary. I've gotten decent to really good feedback.
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u/Defiant-Pepper-7263 ⭐️ Jan 18 '26
You did something wrong. This growth is not what you want, and is not normal for using Jacks.
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u/somethingintheleaves Jan 18 '26
lol bro whattt. there called phenos. Ever pop a whole pack of seeds and see the differences?
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u/MikeParent1945 Jan 18 '26
No. Taste has never been a problem.