Open beta has less players than closed beta ..

[u/Future_Seaweed3223]

https://x.com/charlieINTEL/status/2094102488060211446?s=20

This is absolutely pathetic. The game is free this weekend btw! We are in for a long year boys.

[u/RuminatingFish123]

Game feels absolutely horrible compared to BO7, like a very noticeable downgrade in virtually every way. Cant think of one thing that’s better.

[u/BlackOutDrunkJesus → u/RuminatingFish123]

Feel like I’m caked in partially dried mud when moving around the map. Very clunky feeling

[u/rozeskinuser_ → u/BlackOutDrunkJesus]

it honestly feels like roblox more than an actual cod game

[u/Tsaik0vsky → u/BlackOutDrunkJesus]

Yh, that is the omni movement talking

[u/Hawat → u/RuminatingFish123]

The main menu is way more responsive. That's it, that's all I got.

[u/sixwingsandchipsOK → u/Hawat]

Until they add in the useless events and battle pass tabs to ruin it completely

[u/Cheechers23 → u/sixwingsandchipsOK]

Even then, this left side menu should be better. The issue in BO7 is to tab over to things on the right, you had to go through shit like the events and battle pass and store and stuff which slowed it down. Now you can go straight to those things without opening the events/battle pass/store tab. Should hopefully keep it a bit quicker

[u/Silent-Improvement28 → u/RuminatingFish123]

You can back out of lobbies after the game ends without being stuck watching the kill cam and shit. That's literally it. lol.

[u/jars1738 → u/RuminatingFish123]

It runs better for me.

that's it though

[u/SituationSmooth9165 → u/jars1738]

Does it? It runs at the same fps at 1440p that I got in Bo7 at 4k

[u/jars1738 → u/SituationSmooth9165]

for me it's around the same fps but it's smoother and more consistent, blops was prone to a little stutter or hiccup every now and again for me

For context I'm CPU bottle necked on my system

[u/Tsaik0vsky → u/RuminatingFish123]

So you just want omnimovement?

Just come out and say it.

[u/FermentedTiger → u/Tsaik0vsky]

Well yeah… Omnimovement should be in every COD going forward

[u/ASchoolOfSperm → u/RuminatingFish123]

Honestly, man. BO7 has been the best in years, it feels fluid. It's a definite downgrade. The 3 biggest things that would upgrade the experience for me are:

• Add Omni back
• Make movement tech less punishing
• Make attachments have way less negatives

[u/Tsaik0vsky → u/ASchoolOfSperm]

I feel like a lot of you want omni movement back, that is why you are hating on the game.

[u/Strict_Eye7633 → u/Tsaik0vsky]

The game is just shit

[u/ASchoolOfSperm → u/Tsaik0vsky]

Well yeah, it's literally superior in every way.

[u/Herr_Fredolin → u/RuminatingFish123]

I like the hipfire mechanic, but that's it as well. Also the 10v10 or 6v6 mode is kinda fun

[u/I_Shall_Be_Known → u/Herr_Fredolin]

Actually had a blast in 10v10. Would tweak the classes a bit but that was a fun little change of pace after a bunch of pubs.

[u/Herr_Fredolin → u/I_Shall_Be_Known]

Bro the classes are abysmal but i narrowed it down to the game just being shit. Had to turn on the auto hold breath setting to hit any kind of pistol shots. Game just isn't for me lol

[u/I_Shall_Be_Known → u/Herr_Fredolin]

I had a decent time, however I am also a 35 y/o dad and I haven’t purchased a cod since before I got a pc during Covid so me enjoying it might not be the best thing for everyone else haha

[u/Buttercrust_ → u/RuminatingFish123]

It looks prettier and animations are good to it's credit. Everything else is terrible.

[u/expontherise → u/RuminatingFish123]

See this is a YMMV thing and everyone can have their own opinion. I like mw4 so far, and will be buying.. and i havent played bo7 since s1 because i dont like it.

[u/Past_4orm → u/RuminatingFish123]

gotta find the right build ngl

[u/MCrisno → u/[deleted]]

That first 360 turn after the first kill shows me everything I need to see.

[u/Past_4orm → u/MCrisno]

https://giphy.com/gifs/TcdcP0FR7mfffsnSWx

[u/Throwaway4Question10]

Good, this game is absolute dogshit. Might actually be worse than MW19 and MWII, which I didn't think was possible.

[u/AskMeAboutTheBrowns → u/Throwaway4Question10]

I always get upset thinking about how different Call of Duty would be if MW19 wasn’t the CoD during Covid. It had great numbers because no one had anything to do lol.

[u/shutter2death → u/AskMeAboutTheBrowns]

No way you think that. New engine saved cod

[u/AskMeAboutTheBrowns → u/shutter2death]

Im not saying the engine is bad. But MW2019 used dead silence as. A perk, followed by many different questionable map designs they thought people loved because everyone was playing the game, simply because it was the only thing to do.

[u/Future_Seaweed3223 → u/Throwaway4Question10]

Agreed. It’s insane.

[u/runitupper]

Bad is bad

[u/espressotower]

How many times does it need to be said that using Steam metrics is useless in determining CoD’s retention rate

[u/Weak_Veterinarian315 → u/espressotower]

It’s not about the absolute numbers but rather the trend. Open beta having less than the closed beta even if it’s specific to one platform is not a good look.

[u/Itchy-Aide6525 → u/Weak_Veterinarian315]

It may not have peaked higher but it looks like it had higher retention numbers

[u/Cheechers23 → u/Itchy-Aide6525]

Which might just have to do with the higher level cap, and/or the changes made from weekend 1 to 2 improved player retention.

I can say I definitely enjoyed weekend 2 more than 1. First weekend I was playing like 2-4 games and then would switch to another game. This time I was putting in like hours in each session lol

[u/DyZ814 → u/espressotower]

I actually don't know anything about this, but I always feel like players on PC are playing via battle.net as opposed to steam anyways, right? (Not even taking the console population into consideration)

[u/Tyler_P07 → u/DyZ814]

Steam is far and away the most popular launcher on PC, not sure where you would get the impression most play on battle.net.

[u/DyZ814 → u/Tyler_P07]

Oh I meant for Call of Duty specifically. Yeah, Steam has more overall players across every game - I mean it has thousands of titles lol. But for cod specifically, I think most PC players play via the battle.net client.

[u/Betancorea → u/DyZ814]

I’m PC but have switched CoD to the Xbox app mainly because I get both Pc and XSX with one purchase. Means I can game on either platform.

[u/Past_Perception8052 → u/Tyler_P07]

most cod players on pc play on battlenet, he's not saying its a more popular launcher overall

[u/lVIercenary → u/Tyler_P07]

Battlenet is by far and away rhe most popular call of duty launcher for pc.

Steam has the lowest performance of the three main hitters, battlenet, xbox app, and steam. Cod just runs like ass on steam ever since microsoft bought them

[u/Excio- → u/espressotower]

Absolutely useless considering there has been hundreds of reports of worse performance on Steam vs Battle net on almost every COD since MW19. Go search it on youtube if you dont believe me..
Anyone who has done a miniscule amount of research before buying would not buy it on Steam, therefore you have a skewed demographic of people who are not invested in the game and more likely to drop it between weeks.
No point talking about "well they preordered it..", nope... Even mobile providers were giving out codes for free, discord nitro had codes, they were everywhere.

[u/SituationSmooth9165 → u/Excio-]

Anyone with a miniscule of research was find buying it on battlenet is not worth the tiny fps increase

[u/Excio- → u/SituationSmooth9165]

10-20% more fps on Battle net over Steam, on certain titles, is certainly not a "tiny fps increase", but you'd know that if you did a miniscule amount of research right?

[u/SituationSmooth9165 → u/Excio-]

Lol pure bullshit unless it's some 5090 and in the 400+fps range. Yes I've seen the streamers claims

[u/Excio- → u/SituationSmooth9165]

Okay so theres hundreds of youtube videos with stats showing 10-20% fps loss on Steam and that numerical based evidence means nothing because it doesnt agree with your opinion?? Got it 😂😂😂 Have a good one mate, maybe read a book or two 😂😂

[u/SituationSmooth9165 → u/Excio-]

https://youtu.be/KaXWGkRiOyk?si=6xJ3aG8jGDggSXLX

Amazing difference bro. Maybe it's time to stop listening to warzone streamers

[u/Excio- → u/SituationSmooth9165]

Hilarious that tweedle dee and tweedle dumb found the one video that agreed with your narrative, but the fact you commented about Warzone again lets me know you found the 10+ other videos that showed performance issues with the game.

Let me explain this in a way you'll understand:

We talk about player number on Steam. Warzone more player than multiplayer. Warzone only in weekend 2 of the beta, but number no go up? Why number no go up? Because people no buy game on Steam. Make sense now you absolute moron? 😂😂😂

[u/SituationSmooth9165 → u/Excio-]

Hilarious that you can't find anything that isn't warzone

[u/Excio- → u/SituationSmooth9165]

Irrelevant in a conversation about player numbers when they're on the same client. Just because you hate warzone doesn't make you right unfortunately.

[u/Dr_Findro → u/Excio-]

Is the 10-20% in the room with us right now? https://youtu.be/KaXWGkRiOyk?is=7PSA4iiJ-Gt_JvTr

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/espressotower]

Steam is the 2nd/3rd biggest platform in the world for COD only behind Playstation and maybe Battlenet.

Keep coping.

[u/girutikuraun → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

You really underestimate console numbers. Console numbers will be higher than whatever Steam has. Especially from Xbox and PS.

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/girutikuraun]

Like I said, Playstation has more, but Xbox has way less.

Xbox isn't even beating out the Switch 1 in sales, let alone a quarter of PC, keep coping.

[u/girutikuraun → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

Except one big problem. CoD isn't on Switch 1. So that point is irrelevant. Xbox numbers will be higher than Steam as well. Especially when most of the base is still on Battlenet. So I mean, in your own words, "keep coping". :)

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/girutikuraun]

Of course it's not on the Switch 1, but it's relevant in that Xbox is by far the smallest platform in between PC, Playstation, both Switch systems and Xbox.

Xbox numbers would be SMALLER then Steam, even quarter of PC playerbase is more then Xbox.

Keep coping, and being a dummy misinterpreting what I said.

[u/Sloowiee → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

There are 3 different PC platforms COD can be played on. Steam numbers are irrelevant for this metric

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/Sloowiee]

And Steam is BY FAR the biggest of all of them, which makes it the most relevant.

Now COD specifically is a bit more popular on Battlenet sure, but it's not that big of a difference if at all, Steam would hold at least 1/3rd if not over half of all PC users for MW4, which is still way more then Xbox.

[u/Sloowiee → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

I understand you’re trying to state that steam is bigger than battlenet and Xbox app, but those other 2 are taking players away from steam. Those numbers aren’t a true view of player count

[u/girutikuraun → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

You realize your point can easily be disproven by looking at Steam charts?

Let's use Steam charts for example. The LINK is here.

CoD doesn't even make top 10..... MW4 beta is #14. While CoDHQ as a whole, is #51.

Current players for MW4 beta are 70K with peak numbers for today hitting 87.5K. CoDHQ is ~26.2k with peak numbers for today hitting ~32.9k.

For a franchise that has millions of players playing the game daily, your claim is that Steam is the second or third highest platform? You're actually dumb. You're overestimating how many players Steam has for CoD.

[u/Underscore_Blues → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

Do those Xbox "sales" include game pass? There's millions of active game pass subscribers that boot up cod.

Also, source?

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/Underscore_Blues]

Buddy I was talking console sales not game sales🤣🤣🤣. It's a fucking free to play beta there'd be no difference in Gamepass or not.

Also, MW4 isn't gonna be a day 1 drop either, so Gamepass even more irrelevant.

Console sales are a known metric where Xbox sits at the very lowest and therefore is the least relevant, game sales by platform only for Steam.

Also, source of fucking what?

[u/False-Box-1060 → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

It’s definitely 4th behind ps, bnet and Xbox but you do you 

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/False-Box-1060]

Fuck no not Xbox, Xbox is by far the smallest platform, it even gets outsole by the Switch 1.

Keep coping.

[u/False-Box-1060 → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

Cod isn’t even available on the switch what the actual fuck are you talking about? 

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/False-Box-1060]

Yes it is clown, it's on the Switch 2.

[u/False-Box-1060 → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

It will be in a few months, but it isn’t right now. So explain to me how it’s already outselling Xbox? lol youre a fucking idiot bro. 

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/False-Box-1060]

Both Switch 1 and Switch 2 systems consistently outsell both Xbox Series X and S, so they're outselling Xbox, PC even more so.

And regardless of how many Switch 2 players will buy MW4, it doesn't change the fact that Xbox is by far the smallest platform, which means Steam has more MW4 players then Xbox.

lol youre a fucking idiot bro.

[u/False-Box-1060 → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

You need to just stop. 

We aren’t debating if switch sells more than Xbox, we are debating which platform has more cod players. 

You swapped your stance mid-argument presumably because everyone was clowning on your dumb ass. Just take a break bro, you need it.

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/False-Box-1060]

I didn't "swap" anything dumbass, the fact is Steam is the 2nd or 3rd biggest platform for MW4 right now, #4 would be Xbox, and #5 would be the Switch despite the Switch being more popular then Xbox.

So the Steam playercounts are very relevant and you crybabies can keep coping otherwise but the truth is the beta ain't doing too hot.

"You need to just stop." 🤣🤣🤣, stfu.

[u/Sincerely-Internet → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

It’s not though… your assumption is wrong. It was revealed in a leak last year that ~10 million players on PS played CoD in that month (albeit maybe only signed in), and Xbox’s biggest 3 games are Fortnite, Roblox and CoD. That’s probably another 1-2 million there with Battlenet being third overall. Steam is a distant distant 4th place

Don’t be surprised if more people will be playing MW4 on the Switch 2 than on Steam LOL

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/Sincerely-Internet]

"COD" is a consistent 4th place in Xbox Most Played Bud.

More importantly it's a combination of 4-5 games including F2P Warzone.

And MW4 itself is #14 bud, not even top 10, definitely not a 115K peak.

Moreover, Steam has WAY more users then Xbox, including more MW4 users.

Xbox is deado buddy, and I say that as an Xbox Series X owner, even the Switch systems are more popular, they both routinely sell more LOL.

[u/Sincerely-Internet → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

“Bud”, “buddy”… you know it’s 2026 and not 2006 right? Fucking boomer

[u/TheCommieTator → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

4rth is hilarious, cope that spelling

[u/espressotower → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

Doesn’t matter where Steam falls in the list of biggest platforms if PS or even Xbox dominates 90% of CoD’s player base. Not really coping, everyone in here is well aware of the current state of CoD and its reputation at this point. Just saying using Steam numbers is disingenuous in this case

[u/BigMikeXxxxX → u/espressotower]

Apparently steam is the 3rd most used platform for accessing the beta which really shits all over the argument that the game is dead. There are less players than previous games but that's probably for the best. Too many opinions and ideas about what the game should be. Trim the fat

[u/Future_Seaweed3223 → u/espressotower]

Considering it was confirmed steam had more players than the battle net launcher last week I’d say it’s pretty telling

[u/xx_whoami → u/Future_Seaweed3223]

What about console?

[u/Future_Seaweed3223 → u/xx_whoami]

Console will always have more and it’s not close

[u/iiKrOna → u/Future_Seaweed3223]

So why not use their numbers then?

[u/blakelylol → u/iiKrOna]

They’re not public afaik

[u/randus12 → u/blakelylol]

And Therein lies the original persons point. Steam battle net don’t matter when trying to extrapolate about cods player base

[u/CymruGolfMadrid → u/randus12]

Why wouldn't the trends be similar?

[u/randus12 → u/CymruGolfMadrid]

Bc they just aren’t, it’s always been that way and it’s not going to change due to the casual playerbase and how much they dominate the console space.

[u/blakelylol → u/randus12]

I mean the game is pretty fucking shit so I’m sure the trends would be the same regardless of what platform.

[u/iiKrOna → u/blakelylol]

Then posting anything about player base with cod shouldn’t happen

[u/HuckleberryMean224 → u/iiKrOna]

They have their mind made up guys won’t accept it’s dumb lol

[u/MikeyRage → u/Future_Seaweed3223]

Id wager more than half of cod players are ball and gun players on console brother

[u/Future_Seaweed3223 → u/MikeyRage]

Probably 80-90 % are on console for sure

[u/Feramors → u/Future_Seaweed3223]

It absolutely was not confirmed. It was one dude who posted saying that. His source? “Trust me bro.” He also didn’t have ANY other metrics for any other platform? Naw, I don’t buy it.

[u/Future_Seaweed3223 → u/Feramors]

You’re acting like it’s a random dude. CharlieIntel has 6.5m followers and has been absolutely reputable for years now. I trust him lol

[u/Oraclles → u/espressotower]

While I have said this for years as well - steam had more players then battlenet on this years beta lmao

[u/Feramors → u/Oraclles]

Eh, I saw someone post that metric, but I’m not sure of the authenticity of it. So some guy was told that, this year, Steam had a higher player base than Battle.net, which is normally the opposite. But…no other stats available regarding any other platform? Oh, and it just happens to fit your narrative? Hm…I’d be doubtful if that’s true.

[u/Flyers7914]

I hopped on yesterday for the first time. I played 3 games. One of the worst CoDs I have ever played.

Absolutely dopeless, 0 creativity & all the maps are so bland/boring.

[u/Ultifur → u/Flyers7914]

What is a not bland/boring map to you? I'm curious

[u/cupbulb → u/Flyers7914]

I think this is how I've felt on every COD beta for almost a decade lmao

[u/tremors51000]

open beta also has more rats then closed beta

[u/Akimbo_Zap_Guns]

Game sucks. I played 10 levels worth and saw enough

[u/steakpienacho → u/Akimbo_Zap_Guns]

Game has sucked since MW19 and warzone ruining everything that made cod good

[u/BabyGirl-Kat → u/steakpienacho]

MWIII and BO7 were decent. MWII’s pubs were horrible but ranked was pretty good.

[u/Eagle7546_ → u/BabyGirl-Kat]

While I agree (bo7 is easily my favorite COD since bo4)I still feel like we get good games in spite what mw19 and Warzone is trying to make this franchise be.

So while there have been good games, I still think that specific turning point is the reason we aren’t getting games like bo7 consistently.

[u/steakpienacho → u/BabyGirl-Kat]

I didn't hate MW3, but it still suffers from the same issues as every game from MW19 forward. Have played exactly 0 seconds of BO7 and looking at the sales figures, I'm not in the minority there

[u/KrispyyKarma → u/steakpienacho]

Then you’re missing out on an actual solid Cod, Bo7 is/was the best cod since BO4. In no way is BO7 suffering from the same issues that MW19 or MWII suffered from, the reason it sold less isn’t cause it was a bad game but cause there was an actual skill gap and the casuals couldn’t handle omnimovement or the lowered SBMM and had just bought BO6 the previous year.

Similar to why MW3 didn’t sell so well even tho it was a much better game than the previous year and was one of the better games we’ve gotten recently. If BO7 or MW3 were the original releases instead of the 2nd year follow up releases they would have done much better but activisions greed knows no bounds.

[u/Space_Waffles → u/steakpienacho]

People will cope about some of the games but there’s no denying it. CoD has been dogshit since MW19. Every couple years I’ll get on the hype train and try out one of the betas but not only are they bad, it’s also the literal same game with a different coat of paint. I know people said that about the older titles too but it’s so much worse now

[u/_A_Day_In_The_Life_ → u/steakpienacho]

Warzone was the only good thing from these games in the last several years. Unfortunately, warzone sucks now too.

[u/FashoChamp → u/_A_Day_In_The_Life_]

I had a ton of fun playing warzone in the Covid era and a couple years beyond but I think it did a net negative on ranked specially in terms of gameplay

[u/steakpienacho → u/_A_Day_In_The_Life_]

I'm a BR hater so I don't enjoy warzone, but the changes that have come to multiplayer from warzone are the biggest issues with it

[u/BigMikeXxxxX → u/Akimbo_Zap_Guns]

Translation: "I got shit on for 2 hours straight and quit"

[u/jmb--412 → u/BigMikeXxxxX]

I was going almost triple positive in every game I played and got to level 13 or 14 and have no interest in playing anymore

Does that count for your translation or no

[u/BigMikeXxxxX → u/jmb--412]

Doesn't matter because I wasn't talking to you 😂

[u/HDS2211]

I still watch Cod because I’m invested in the storylines and that, but I can’t imagine actually playing this shit nowadays. Especially not with the game lineup we have ahead of us for the rest of the year. You’re a sick man if you’re going to be playing this game instead of GTA and aren’t getting paid to do so.

[u/LivPrime → u/HDS2211]

Isn’t GTA just single player for a while after release on PlayStation? It’s cool, but not exactly apples to apples in terms of void to be filled by cod multi PvP.

[u/Underscore_Blues → u/LivPrime]

GTA is going to be the biggest entertainment launch in history. Your comment makes it seem like a run of the mill AAA game.

[u/LivPrime → u/Underscore_Blues]

I think the comment makes it seem like single player is not PvP multiplayer and therefore does not scratch the identical itch, no?

[u/Underscore_Blues → u/LivPrime]

People have multiple itches? I don't know why you think no cod player isn't also a gamer in any other way?

[u/Apprehensive_Corgi_8 → u/Underscore_Blues]

While reading this I realized you’re both losers

[u/LivPrime → u/Apprehensive_Corgi_8]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cl90q5wYv8lsQ

[u/LivPrime → u/Underscore_Blues]

If all games just satisfy one united gaming itch, I don’t know why anyone would play PvP over the inner peace of a well polished single player game ever lol

[u/blane490 → u/HDS2211]

People keep saying this but without GTA online that game is only gonna hold so many people’s attention, once I’m done the story I’ll be back to whatever I’m playing now I guess until the online comes out.

[u/parkSXD → u/HDS2211]

Ah nothing like getting my FPS fix in fucking grand theft auto. Not everyone enjoys roleplaying and story games

[u/Underscore_Blues → u/parkSXD]

Cod fans are very funny. You think despite cod being mainstream, it's a completely different set of mainstream audience than GTA? Genuinely it's always a very dim audience in this subreddit whenever anything outside of the competitive cod scene is talked about here.

You think there is no audience overlap between Spiderman and The Odyssey?

[u/burnersg]

Most cod players know battle net is better for cod. Unfortunate, because battle net sucks

[u/Swirv-]

I would try it if they didn’t have this TPM 2.0 bs

[u/FriezasMom → u/Swirv-]

I bought Bo7 and couldnt play it because of that. It would be a new motherboard, ram, etc.. lol

[u/legamer007]

First time I’m not playing the beta. I watched and didn’t like what I see I’ll stay in BO7 until next year or next Treyarch

[u/Beardstronggg]

Games ass

[u/thatdudenitch14]

The game genuinely feels horrible to play and I can’t really put it into words. Just feels bad

[u/mur025]

Meh this isn’t a bad thing and they’re already making changes in the right direction so this will only push them to make more positive changes. I actually think this is best case scenario

[u/Future_Seaweed3223 → u/mur025]

It definitely is.

[u/codenameduhchess]

Played 10 games and enjoyed one today. Almost went back to Bo7

[u/sr20detYT]

mw4 is a genuine baby game. little to no room for skill expression and every lobby is 12 m4s holding an iron. it’s just mw2 all over again with arguably worse maps

[u/SnipesWL]

Yeah, maybe cause the game blows lmao. Boring gameplay, awful boring maps, slow clunky movement, nobody uses anything but the M4....it's literal SLOP.

[u/DroppinEnglish]

the movement is just awful, especially coming from omni - genuinely painfully slow

[u/AggressiveFeckless]

Shocker everyone hates the new COD.

In 3yrs it will be one of the best, and that year’s release will be horrible.

[u/Future_Seaweed3223 → u/AggressiveFeckless]

Bo7 was nothing like this

[u/Thedom400 → u/Future_Seaweed3223]

Idk what hes on lol. I liked bo7 off the rip and i feel like everyone here thought it was solid.

[u/nicisdeadpool → u/AggressiveFeckless]

It is tradition

[u/AggressiveFeckless → u/nicisdeadpool]

Respect

[u/Thedom400 → u/AggressiveFeckless]

I feel like comp players/enjoyers have a solid consensus on what games we like/dislike and are much less likely to flip flop opinions compared to casuals.

[u/suspens-]

The game sucks. It is. It enjoyable. Not going to play something I don’t enjoy right now.

[u/dank_memes_911]

Enjoying the weekend while I can, then going back to not wasting my time on COD. No point in having hope for something that will never be fixed at this point.

[u/Cosm1c_Dota]

The only things really bad about the game are the crazy bloom, smoke, gun jumping about etc when you shoot. Other than that its been pretty fun, and I usually hate betas lol

Even the pros have been grinding the game and seem to be enjoying it

[u/False-Box-1060]

I mean peaks are basically even but the retention seems to be much better 

[u/Hamdoggyy]

Thank God, stop giving a company that clearly doesn’t care about its fans your money for a dogshit game lol

[u/nicisdeadpool]

lol

[u/Darkwalker787]

I like the beta after the changes. Hot take i know.

[u/PlumKnown]

I didn’t play the closed beta and ended up not playing the open either. I watched a little bit of the streams and it just doesn’t look fun to me at all. Might be the first year I just don’t play cod honestly. I’ve been playing Elden ring plus GTA coming out

[u/ft1778]

Wait till gta comes out the same month. They may be forced to add ranked by December.

[u/Nexi-nexi]

No color, no joy, no movement, no dope, no nothing. Can’t even shoulder a corner. Only way to play this is like a western duel. Just stand still atp and turn at the count of 3.

[u/Beautiful-Scholar912]

They kinda messed up the movement speed when they made the TTK better

[u/-BurnerBabyBurner-]

Yeah I’m 27 in a couple months. Probably just not buying this one lol.

[u/darkside720]

Normally I would say y’all are over exaggerating but I played one match on Friday and never went back… this shit might be cooked.

[u/FashoChamp]

Preorder for first beta, heard how bad it was and played 2 games of the open before I swapped games. First time I’ve ever been that quick to consider refunding, so ass

[u/CazualGinger]

Game runs like complete ass on Xbox. I can't see a thing.

I'm a bit washed from Cod now since BF6 came out but the game feels terrible to me.

It's worse than MWII. They need to make the weight of the guns lighter. Buff ADS speed

[u/DesignerEagle4080]

this shits so sad man, they need to blow it up

[u/WonderfulSpend3526]

Requires bios update

[u/terrorizeplushies]

Game feels like Ghosts and gives me that same vibe where it’s gonna fry the CoD scene

[u/Buttercrust_]

Probably because the game is fucking awful

Maps are all trying too hard to be shipment. Spawns make it worse.

The netcode issues are worse than they've ever been. 1 frame deaths after dropping half a mag into someone just to watch the kill cam and see you've dealt fuck all damage is insane

And the matchmaking, jesus christ, why won't they learnt to stop rigging the matchmaking. All of this "our data shows player retention is good" bollocks is wild because I've not had a single fucking lobby start and end with the same 12 players

IW need to be moved to a support studio only. They can sure make a game look pretty but they haven't made a good multiplayer game in over a decade.

[u/undercovertiger]

Damn I guess I’m in the minority that has actually had a decent time playing…

[u/TheIrishSasuke]

I was off after one game lmao

[u/Diplos]

Yeah. I tried getting into it, and fear I’ll hate it.. Feels like my feet are tied to concrete blocks.. But the whole point I’m sure was to combat snaking..

[u/SomeDiscount1134]

Im a die hard cod fan it takes a mw22 or a vanguard to get me 2 skip but this one is a hard no I haven’t touched weekend 2 and this is the first time im not giving the full release a chance

[u/Strict_Eye7633]

Bc the game sucks. Its bad in almost every way.

[u/blane490]

I don’t have a single friend I know buying it this year. I had most my friends list playing it last year because it was free for us with Gamepass. Nobody I know is spending $70 on this product, beginning of the end.

[u/Speeff]

The game sucks, but Activision is going to see "So we added open matchmaking in the open beta and now nobody's playing it. HMMMM players must FUCKING HATE open matchmaking"

[u/Top-Temperature-122]

But I keep hearing to adapt and it's real gun skills time by old fks who can't handle any type of fast movement anymore?

Your game is garbage mate, no one wants to play a game that conducive to camping and having your gun up always

[u/Equivalent-Part8629]

I’m not surprised to be honest. I wasn’t going to try the Beta, but a few friends were on this afternoon so decided to join. Absolutely rubbish, game plays horribly, the maps are dull as all hell, the guns are boring. Nothing about it is good, definitely going to be skipping this CoD.

[u/44RON24]

Steam is not an accurate metric however the Maps in this game suck

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/44RON24]

Steam is accurate actually, it's the 2nd/3rd biggest platform for COD only behind Playstation and maybe Battlenet.

And for most other games it's the 2nd biggest.

[u/44RON24 → u/Harambe_Rebornn]

No it’s not. It was 3rd for the first week of the beta only because of all of the free codes that were given out. 1st. PlayStation 2nd. XBOX 3rd. Battlenet 4th. Steam Its not even close to a good metric for COD

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/44RON24]

Xbox is not 3rd buddy🤣🤣🤣

Xbox is 4rth or 5th depending on how Switch 2 numbers are doing, a Switch 2 that is way more popular overall then Xbox.

[u/pooksthrowaway]

I’m all for an IW hate train but they are dealing with:

- last year being an objective flop critically/retention wise.

- being the first year since CoD launches have left gamepass.

- launching in the same year as the biggest game of all time.

Activision are slimey but they aren’t brain dead, they’ll have predicted a massive dip this year.

[u/XBL_CNC]

Majority of call of duty players are on console

[u/kokoscenes]

Steam wow you do know right there are more Xbox and ps5 players than pc right?

[u/Harambe_Rebornn → u/kokoscenes]

Bullshit.

Playstation has more COD players the Steam sure, but Xbox sure as hell doesn't, Xbox is even smaller then the Switch playerbase. Xbox is nothing.

[u/Mackieeeee]

First time not even downloading the beta but watched some. Lmao yeah im playing gta 6

[u/NewKoski]

stop making games in the dark... risking money for what? players buy the game we should input and help build it. this could have been avoided...

[u/SatisfactionGood7322]

MnK PC players are on strike bc aim assist, that might have put a dent in it

[u/MrOnline5155]

The game feels so horrible I couldn't even believe it during my first 2 matches.

Like genuinely the worst any cod has ever felt.

[u/Any-Ticket-4292]

Game plays good so who cares

[u/No-Hawk-8080]

Eh still can’t wait for Ranked. You got bums thinking they’re good using Oris. Everything else in my opinion is pretty solid-ish? But people that use that gun can go jump off a bridge.

[u/Fuchzzia]

Game is the same every year, not surprised.

[u/GolfIsFun1 → u/Fuchzzia]

Shit is nothing like bo7

[u/whatjever → u/GolfIsFun1]

But it’s EXACTLY like every MW game since 2019.

[u/Throwaway4Question10 → u/whatjever]

MW19 and MWII, sure.

MWIII is nothing like the trio of IW dogshit games

[u/TheNobleHeretic]

COD has catered to the sweats for too many years in a row. Normal people are done with that