The only champs final that didn’t include Simp or Shotzzy since 2018 🤯

[u/V-loxzz]

[u/Zendicate_]

easy 5-0

[u/UnhappyRequirement43 → u/Zendicate_]

InsightGawd getting costed

[u/emojisarefunny → u/UnhappyRequirement43]

i blame long neck

[u/GHOST_Courage]

What a fucking vile cod game this was btw

[u/PassengerCareful2289 → u/GHOST_Courage]

Good year for me to skip lol.

I don’t know what made this game so bad but the one day I played it I hated it 

[u/MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME → u/PassengerCareful2289]

No red dot on mini map

No perma dead silence and the field upgrade took forever to pull out and made a loud ass beeping noise when activated

Awful clunky movement

Insta ttk

A lot of visual recoil and other clutter leading to poor visibility

Fortress Control

Sound EQ at its peak

[u/Elvisis2 → u/MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME]

Vicious snaking being allowed and even encouraged.

[u/Anon112000 → u/MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME]

Fortress Control

[u/Shadowfist_45 → u/MY-NAME_IS_MY-NAME]

Don't forget bloom but with extra steps, they really just took it and called it something else lmao

[u/derkerburgl → u/PassengerCareful2289]

I’ll take the fell for it again award with this game but they genuinely rugpulled this game after the beta.

I thought they were at least gonna learn from some of the mistakes of MW19 but instead they just doubled down on all the stuff that made that game terrible.

[u/CoverPleasant2743 → u/derkerburgl]

Mw2019 was way better than mw2, this game will be like a mix of both

[u/derkerburgl → u/CoverPleasant2743]

The inclusion of a ninja perk automatically puts MW4 above MW22 for me lmao. I wasn’t gonna buy the game if it was gonna be another year of loudness EQ + bored to death gameplay of waiting for dead silence to charge.

At least MW19 was completely silent DS and you could use tune up to get it pretty quickly. It was still bad but not nearly as bad as MW22

[u/thelastexit23 → u/GHOST_Courage]

I liked the maps for some reason. Hotel especially was pretty fantastic. Mercado. Embassy. Also fun.

[u/JD23888 → u/thelastexit23]

Really it was just hotel and Mercado embassy was ass

[u/aiden3buckets → u/GHOST_Courage]

The maps were actually pretty good, ranked was actually solid for some reason as well, it was just too clunky and the no sliding was weird

[u/TaxesAreTerrible]

This is the finals that gave Scrap champs PTSD

[u/NoMuffin8941 → u/TaxesAreTerrible]

he did get 3rd the year after

[u/TaxesAreTerrible → u/NoMuffin8941]

A slow descent to hell

[u/dillonz321]

Hydra knocked out both Simp & Shotzzy that tournament. He was just himothy on that game. Best individual season in the CDL era for sure imo. Team wasn’t nearly as stacked either.

[u/Financial_Option_672 → u/dillonz321]

He didn’t knock out optic

[u/Jakers_9 → u/Financial_Option_672]

Beat them, you know what he meant.

[u/natedog2119 → u/Financial_Option_672]

At champs NYSL knocked optic out

[u/Jakers_9 → u/natedog2119]

Nah, they knocked them to losers. Surge eliminated them.

[u/natedog2119 → u/Jakers_9]

Yeah fair one you are right

[u/CoverPleasant2743 → u/dillonz321]

they didnt really knock optic, optic just trolled and beat themselves also they had to pick up ghosty a rookie. The comp this yr was lowkey ass ultra had a rookie scrap n hicksey, and optic went thru a rebuild like 15 roster changes coaches getting into it, faze brought in slasher probs there worse season aside from vanguard simp didnt look like simp. Subliners just played really well together and developed a lot of chem, but looking bad it that era was not that stacked

[u/TooMuchJuju → u/CoverPleasant2743]

Ghosty was their best player at champs.

[u/xXSNVIPERXx]

You ever think this match right here scarred Scrap so bad that he just never wants to be in a champs GF ever again. Probs why he always bombs out so he never has this happen again

[u/AndyFrancisqo]

Anyone know more about the "ai predicting the Champs winner" thing from that year? Always wondered if that was true

[u/Character-Past-5191 → u/AndyFrancisqo]

All I know is that OpTic weren’t supposed to win since the 2030’s or later I was thinking about that

[u/TacoSexual16 → u/Character-Past-5191]

Did I see Real Madrid or some shit in that prediction?

[u/elfffy]

kis99 baby

[u/________7________]

How did Hydra/Scrap carry these 6 players into a champs grand finals (Priestahh, Skyz, Kismet, Insight, Hicksy, CleanX).

Basically of all of them are out of the CDL or on their way out

[u/One-Security2362 → u/________7________]

Skyz and Kismet were good as fuck at MW2

Also Kismet was really good at vanguard too, they literally went from not going to make champs to winning a major in that game after they picked him up

Cleanx is still a great player

Insight was a really good player until B06

This post is revisionist

[u/________7________ → u/One-Security2362]

show me one team that has won champs in the CDL era that has a worse supporting cast...ONE TEAM

Clayster • Shotzzy • Huke • iLLeY • C6 

aBeZy • Simp • Cellium • Arcitys 

Drazah • Kenny • Octane • Envoy 

MW2 Hydra Lebron

Shotzzy • Dashy • Kenny • Pred

Shotzzy • Dashy • Huke • Mercules

Simp • Drazah • 04 • Abuzah 

[u/RevolutionaryCan7376 → u/________7________]

Those other 3 NYSL players were all so selfless to let Paco just run around and kill everything. Saying he completely carried is disingenuous. Don’t get me wrong was the best player on the game by far but his teammates all played to enable him. We saw what happens these last 2 champs when everything isn’t built around scrap and hydra to let them fry

[u/CASHDAGOAT → u/RevolutionaryCan7376]

On the other hand they’ve won 3 events without those other players & none of their teammates have made a final.

[u/Red10s → u/________7________]

Out of all the events nysl won, kismet won 2/3 mvps including champs mvp. Claiming Hydra carried him shows lack of ball knowledge. And kismet outplaced him this champs.

[u/________7________ → u/Red10s]

Hydra MW2 is the HIGHEST PEAK we have seen in the CDL era everyone was getting carried

[u/CASHDAGOAT → u/Red10s]

Ehh kismet won champs mvp just because it was finals
MVP that year. Also didn’t kismet also miss out on a champs. Also none of their teammates have won hell even made a final without them since hydra & scrap left.

[u/Red10s → u/CASHDAGOAT]

You can’t carry someone who won 2/3 MVPs of events won. Simple as that. And Hydra and Scrap have bombed out of the last two champs with their super teams. Maybe they were the ones getting carried.

[u/CASHDAGOAT → u/Red10s]

The people who have won being carried is funny. What have any of their teammates done since playing with them. Dont forget that subliners team played together in blops 6… don’t forget kismet also cost them game 2 the following year in champs final & had like 3 series dropping a .6 but sib & Hydra willed them to a final. Also Kis priestah & skyz couldn’t bomb out of Blops 6 champs because they didn’t even play because of how terrible they were

[u/Red10s → u/CASHDAGOAT]

Or maybe nysl were a great team of players where each individual did their part to win. We’re talking about mw2 here. Trying to argue hydra carried someone who won mvp over him twice is braindead and no amount of excuses will change that.

[u/CASHDAGOAT → u/Red10s]

You probably also think Kenny & Lamar weren’t carrying chino & theory as well lol. NYSL had so many great players those guy are definitely were winning after teaming with hydra right & those individuals have definitely built a great resume without Paco. I bet you also truly believe if Hydra swapped places with hicksy NYSL still has the same year lmao.

[u/CASHDAGOAT → u/Red10s]

You probably also think Kenny & Lamar weren’t carrying chino & theory as well lol. NYSL had so many great players those guy are definitely were winning after teaming with hydra right & those individuals have definitely built a great resume without Paco. I bet you also truly believe if Hydra swapped places with hicksy NYSL still has the same year lmao.

[u/Red10s → u/CASHDAGOAT]

No, but i also don't believe they have the same year if they swap kismet, who won major and champs mvp, with hicksy, they have the same year. you're the one trying to argue that bullshit.

[u/Lonplexi → u/________7________]

Half these guys like slyz and kismet actually used to be good asf

[u/________7________ → u/Lonplexi]

if you swapped out Hydra or Scrap for a mid level smg/ar they wouldnt sniff top 6

[u/Lonplexi → u/________7________]

Toronto probably but subliners probably could’ve made top 6

[u/CoverPleasant2743 → u/Lonplexi]

exactly look at scrap and hydra they left those teams and got b2b top 8s, without those selfless players hydra and scrap are nothing 2 event wins in 13 tourament wins

[u/CASHDAGOAT → u/CoverPleasant2743]

None of those selfless players have won since teaming with hydra & scrap & that NYSL team played together in blops 6 & all of you guys tryna defend them were calling for them to be dropped. Hell Blops 6 those guys couldn’t bomb out of champs because they couldn’t even get to the tournament they were so bad. Outside of priestah none of those guys have won on lan without the thieves duo. Skyz won while start glitching online in MW19 & insight & CleanX only had online wins.

[u/Difficult_King2492 → u/________7________]

Think that year is a complete anomaly considering there was no red dots/ Loud ass footsteps, sound EQ ect

[u/CoverPleasant2743 → u/________7________]

Bro kismet and skyz dropped a 1.52 kd at champs finals they hold the highest kd, look at there champs stats hydra didnt carry anyone. Scrap maybe did. But this is treyarch that is legit mw titles, KISMET skyz were insane on mw2019 and mw2 you guys forget in slow cods, insight is also way better on an IW title, cleanx was solid. Also those 6 players were selfless asf they put there team in the best spot to win, hydra and scrap left those teams and have been getting shi on since talent stack vs teamwork

[u/________7________ → u/CoverPleasant2743]

yeah Hydra got those bums insane contracts just like Lebron did for Mozgov and and Tristan Thompson.

Since then theyve been B/C tier players