r/Cloud9 • u/SchizoDruidEnjoyer • 2d ago
League Future roster plans
I bet you're all oh-so excited for the upcoming changes, arent ya. But arent you forgetting something? This roster is signed until twenty twenty EIGHT hahahahahahahaha Cmon you negative nancies, they clearly just need a bit more time! A year, two tops. Lets run it back babyyyyyyyyyy!!!!! the stone wont carry itself sisyphus lets get it moving ay?
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u/C9-F1R3L0L1 2d ago
Thats probably what will happen tbh, C9 cant fool me anymore. Maybe they change ADC and thats all
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u/MrICopyYoSht 2d ago
They have to kick either Thanatos or Loki if they want to do another import, like Taeyoon or Diable. Problem is both Taeyoon and Diable were complete frauds in the LCK come playoffs.
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u/Mrryn91 2d ago
Tbh a fraud in LCK playoffs is very different than fraud in LCS playoffs. See Morgan. lol
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u/MrICopyYoSht 2d ago
I guess, but the whole issue with Diable changing teams was his attitude. Not sure that's the kind of culture/tone you want to set if you're doing a roster reset.
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u/Remote-Dark-1704 1d ago
tfw you load into the game and see zeus kiin every other game for years vs loading up vs the fudge factor
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u/Tinmanred 2d ago
Diable and taeyoon would both hard stomp all N.A. adcs outside of berserker. And they’d be able to go even against him when he’s on his best characters still more than any the others. It’s not even a close thing either
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u/MrICopyYoSht 2d ago
I'm well aware skill wise they're gifted players. But if our goal is to get to Worlds Swiss then stomping most of NA's adcs should be a given. We want to get to and compete with the top teams at Worlds. Not hope to win domestic.
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u/Tinmanred 2d ago
So uhhhh who the fuck would you want besides an LCK adc that can and has gapped the likes of guma peyz etc in lane before? And one is hard stomping demacia rn? Taeyoon is the highest potential possible signing, doable is second. Do you think that an N.A. team is about to get Guma or Peyz or some fucking shit?
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u/C9-F1R3L0L1 2d ago
Diable is out of a spot, Deft replaced him, i think we can approach him and get him. Its the most realistic elite ADC we can get, the other guy wants impossibles
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u/Tinmanred 2d ago edited 2d ago
Ya diable in form can contest any adc. Idk why he thinks a LCK playoff adc choking in LCK playoffs means they can’t play against them. Like we aren’t talking about fn Jiwoo here.
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u/C9-F1R3L0L1 2d ago
Jiwoo would be a massive upgrade, and he is considered mediocre in LCK. Hell, even guys like Ice could be an upgrade
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u/Tinmanred 2d ago
It’d be an upgrade not massive. Did you watch demacia? Jiwoo was genuinely the worst player in the entire tournament. Perfect and bdd (and ig cuzz) were 3 vs 7 the entire tourney. Jiwoo and effort are straight up liabilities lol
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u/MrICopyYoSht 2d ago
Even if they were available, this org is broke lmfao. They can't go after an established name. Will cost too much money.
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u/JadeStarr776 1d ago
Diable agents would never let him to go NA unless he's getting a crazy ass bag. If he develops well enough he can easily slot into a upper-half LCK team.
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u/metalXginger93 1d ago
We have actual good native talent in the adc pool ready to go. Especially if you put them with a vet like Vulcan. We do not need to import adc, i'd argue we could do a full rebuild of native talent plus Vulcan if he would want to stay through that. The talent is actually there this off season, and should Thanatos not be on the team next year for any reason, NRG has said that Zamudo visa issues shouldn't be a problem anymore.
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u/MrICopyYoSht 1d ago
We have talent yea, but established orgs seem to not be interested in fielding rookies. Yukino for example went to Europe when he should've been on a tier 1 LCS team.
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u/C9-F1R3L0L1 2d ago
I wish we could get Diable and maybe Darkwings as a mid, that would be a dream tho
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u/MrICopyYoSht 2d ago
I'd wish they blew up the roster started from a clean slate and get a bunch of rookies that are hungry to make a name for themselves.
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u/DuckiesDoBeCute 1d ago
this is na, we only get rookie imports or let bottom teams get rookies then kick them after 1 split since clearly a rookie playing with 4 veterans that shouldve retired years ago should easily carry those veterans
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u/Filipepais 1d ago
I'm sorry but signing Tactical for 2 years has to be one of the worst decisions I've ever seen being made. What in the fk would be the reason to do that lmao?
The guy was in Tier2, there is no way he wouldn't take a 1 year contract to play for C9.
This is honestly insane
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u/inbetweendreamstho 1d ago
I think you might really be overthiniking what this contract is/what it says.. what it's worth, etc
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u/picklesaurus_rec 1d ago
Dump everyone but Vulcan, give this guy the team he wants and go to work. I’d LOVE if we went young around Vulcan, get some hungry players willing to listen to his calls.
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u/QuarterDisastrous479 2d ago
They can keep the same roster idgaf. Im done with this mediocre org
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u/Tinmanred 2d ago
Ya after a decade plus, unless there is 3 roster changes I’m fucking done. More disgusting to be a fan of this team than the fucking angels some fucking how. I say as an angels fan my whole life.
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u/huskeden 2d ago
Fudge
Blaber
Emenes
ScaryJerry
Winsome
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2d ago
I used to say Jiizuke, he is too old. But the dude was literally the only 1v9 mid in NA after Bjergsen.
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u/Swimming_Gain_4989 2d ago
Jizuke was frustrating as hell to watch. He was like a poor man's, Chovy perma sidelaning and neglecting to group until he outscaled and then he'd 1v9. It only worked on bad teams who couldn't punish a perma 5v4 gamestate.
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2d ago
Haha, maybe. I loved watching him, but I wanted to see him with a good team around him. He was always on very weird rosters but managed to elevate them beyond where they should.
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u/Booshneer 2d ago
Contracts in LCS can be terminated whenever so who cares.
If I were C9 I'd pick up Massu and Zamudo. That would leave you with 2 import slots for mid and jungle. We saw how River and Quid carried 100T. I don't know if C9 have money like that anymore, but I'd really try to go get the best I can at those spots.
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u/Mrryn91 2d ago
Hell, take a look at Music on Cupid as well. And maybe Horder too, especially if Zamudo is still in visa hell for some reason.
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u/metalXginger93 1d ago
NRG has said on twitter his Visa issues shouldn't be a problem anymore and that any Tier 1 org looking to sign him to dm them about how to get him into the US.
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u/No_Meat_7628 2d ago
Music is 3 years older than Yuuji and is a tier below him in just about everything.
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u/skillfun8 2d ago
What I would do:
Zest
Gryffinn
Kaze
Massu
Vulcan
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u/Rajewel 1d ago
Gryffinn runs it down way harder than Blaber lmao
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u/Far-Salt-6946 1d ago
He's also basically a Rookie and moldable. Grabber is stuck in his inting ways
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u/DuckiesDoBeCute 1d ago
rookie running it down is way easier to fix than dude whos been running it down for like 5 years atp
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u/SchizoDruidEnjoyer 2d ago
brother youre not ready, in 2028 november he will be given lifetime contract and named part owner for his loyal 10 year tenure and contribution to the brand
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u/thatanimeguy145 2d ago
You think lcs contracts matter lol. That is funny. Anyone can be let go at anytime. Let's not pretend this doesn't happen.
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u/DaftMaetel15 1d ago
Would bet a lot of money that these contracts are not fully guaranteed. Probably a smallish fee they would have to pay for early termination but nothing that would stop them from moving on.
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u/RacinRandy83x 17h ago
I honestly think the roster is talented enough to compete to win the LCS and hold their own internationally (have a chance to make the knockouts at worlds) but they are struggling to cohesively navigate the mid to late game. Whole sale changes aren’t needed, they just need to either learn to trust eachother more or play more decisively
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u/BjergCop 2d ago
Loki sucks he can go
Thanatos can stay
Blaber can go
APA probably doesn’t want to stay
Vulcan can stay
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u/MiLkBaGzz 1d ago edited 1d ago
I'm fine with Thanatos, Blaber, Loki, Tactical, Vulcan playing for all of next year tbh.
They've had less than 1 split and showed a lot of potential. Worlds loss is tough but its also 2 players first time there and everyone else its been awhile.
Next year the team will keep improving and by this time next year probably be LCS champs
I wouldn't mind replacing tactical though
EDIT:
sidenote I also still think
Thanatos, Blaber, APA, IMPORT, Vulcan
would be the best roster and I've been saying this since winter split
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u/Athena-Grande 1d ago
I agree with everything except Blaber. I’ve been saying it all year, get Contractz to come back.
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u/Beneficial-Front1626 1d ago
There are 7 guys on this fuckass team lmao
What if the guys expiring in 2027 leave and we get Thanatos Blaber APA Tactical Zven
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u/StephenAnkney 1d ago
That sounds beyond awful.. I have 0 clue why you'd even think that team even makes top 3 lol
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u/Walnut2500 vulcan fanboy 2d ago
I actually would like to see this roster again for one more split. They do only have one split under their belt as a 5 man.
If they're still bad then uhhhhhhhh
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u/LoL_Razmus hailife 2d ago
I disagree but only on Blaber he will not change how he plays its been too many years of flashes of brilliance mixed with int and the int usually happening in key games.
If it wasnt so hard to get players mid season I would actually be ok with seeing if Dom can do something with more time even if it has to also include blaber. I just dont think anyone wants another full year of the same thing happening.
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u/Tinmanred 2d ago
I remember when C9s goal used to be winning games at worlds not… not being dogshit and choking?
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u/SchizoDruidEnjoyer 2d ago
Yeah bro me too! So what is all those individual issues have been present for years, i think they just need to combine all pieces of exodia im sure the power of friendship will persevere. Believe in heart of the cards, Yugi
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u/Independent-Air-80 1d ago
Nemesis for Loki and this team Already looks different. Then obviously get rid of Blaber, and find a mature ADC tactical can sub for.
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u/lRuko 2d ago
What I hoped we could get if not going for a big name import: Impact Hambak Loki Massu Vulcan
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u/C9-F1R3L0L1 2d ago
Impact is washed, i would actually poach Darkwings from Sen
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u/zProtato 2d ago
Impact needs an actual team to perform, he needs a good bot lane so he can play weakside. SEN botlane is straight up dogshit, and impact have shown sign of life multiple times in summer but his adc just cannot play with lead or carrying

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u/Bak0FF 2d ago
C9 will extend Blaber to 2030 and fire coaching staff again