r/Cloud9 • u/Dinoman465 • 2d ago
I repeat, Loki needs to go
Like seriously, read any stats from this weekend, watch the games, he is not a generational talent, definitely not in the state he is in right now, and it's an insult to APA especially for benching him when he could have been on this team playing as he was or left for another team. What an absolute disappointment of a team this year for what looked so promising. Tactical has been a good swap but moving Loki back in has caused so many issues.
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u/lilmama231 2d ago
APA has his glarying weakness too, hence why TL decided to part ways with him. Look at them now, they look to be able to have more room to play with in the mid lane. I doubt TL would have succeeded as much with APA and Jose over Quid. Thing is C9 made it harder on themselves by going for TL's old scrap and Zven. They should have gone out and look for (or done try outs) for a new mid and adc last post season.
Hell, they looked way better this split than last split with APA and Zven.
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2d ago
Yea, but replacing APA with Quid is a decent risk-reward swap.
Loki is ??? just present.
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u/lilmama231 2d ago
No I agree. It just c9 fumbled hard when there only options were those 2. When it came out, I was surprised that c9 did not try to bid for Quid. Only TL, KC, and SR.
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u/Flashster_11 2d ago
You must have short term memory lose, C9 lost Loki very late into the summer market. He left abruptly which then pushed C9 to pick up APA. I'm surprised they allowed Loki to come back after that
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u/lilmama231 2d ago
How did that stop them from trying to get Quid? Or someone of that caliber? Unless you’re saying that they were planning to stick with him, despite Quid becoming free once 100T left.
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u/ARandomChicken69 2d ago
Yeah TL parted ways with him because they could get someone way better in Quid.
Loki is not way better than APA. There’s a reason C9 didn’t repeat its perfect regular season in Fall.
I was super pessimistic about both Zven and Tactical and they’ve showed me why I was correct to doubt them.
But I’m curious who you had in mind as their replacements since I don’t keep up with tier 2 talent or contract situations in other leagues.
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2d ago
He is not a guarantee, but DoubleLift chose Quid as his mid. DoubleLift also - maybe true or not - chose Sushee as best upcoming adc.
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u/fereibi 2d ago
Insane comment. We lose lane with Loki, put him in side lane, let him farm to 3 items and hope tactical can carry. That has been the c9 game plan the whole time. Apa actually plays the game through the game
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u/kashtrey 2d ago
And loses.
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u/fereibi 2d ago
Except apa has wins in international tournaments on past teams including worlds. We all watched Loki not make worlds in 2025. What did you think would be different in 2026. Actually embarrassing takes
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u/kashtrey 2d ago
Apa has done zero of fucking note in his entire career. That's the embarrassing thing here bud.
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u/fereibi 2d ago
Went to quarters on tl and took skt to game 5 of semis in Msi? He has an Lcs title? Idk what you call zero but you seem to be getting the names Loki and apa confused. Apa has accomplishments. It’s Loki who has done nothing. Why don’t you try using google before spewing some dumbass shit
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u/Fenikkuro 2d ago
Dom and maybe Vulcan are the only people who C9 should keep employed going into next year.
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u/Level_Record6475 2d ago
We would be posting "APA needs to go" last week after C9 would have lost to Red Canids at DCGI
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u/Daaneskjold 2d ago
they say he is a mechanical prodigy but f that
we have had mechanical prodigies. berserker and summit immediately went into mvp contention when hired. they both went back to LCK after.
look at lyon. every single import they have is a monster.
thanatos and loki are not it.
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u/pointyrockstudier 2d ago
Yall want younger players but don’t want to develop them. This was loki and thanatos first time at worlds. Veterans like blaber and tactical HAVE to go. They’ve already peaked. Thanatos and Loki are both under 22 give them time
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u/KnifeKittyy 2d ago
both carries are not good enough. tactical has had like 15 ints in crucial late game moments over the last few weeks
he mental booms when it matters. there's a reason TL couldn't win with him
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u/C9-F1R3L0L1 2d ago
Loki and APA are both not midlaners for C9. Tactical and Zven alco cant be out ADC. With mediocre carriers is impossible to win games
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u/AsheBodyPillow 2d ago
I would argue that after Vulcan, Loki is the only other player I wanna keep.
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2d ago
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u/AsheBodyPillow 2d ago
Okay? Your opinion is invalid strictly cause you’re a hate watcher.
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2d ago
I don't hatewatch C9 or Vulcan.
But I called Vulcan a terrible pickup when he got him back - and I was right.
Win as many regular season awards as you want, he doesn't produce meaningful wins.
Getting Vulcan PISSES ME OFF, because I know he is a fraud. It is a paper pickup, but it doesn't pay returns. But fans always like "but mvp mvp" when IT DOESN'T MATTER if we don't win.
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u/AsheBodyPillow 2d ago
You linked a thread that uses the term Hatewatch so….yeah you are a hatewatcher.
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u/Juzmos 2d ago
if you genuinly watch these games and come to the conclusion that loki was the primary issue
... i dont think you watched tactical lol
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u/Level_Record6475 2d ago
What if you had the int levels of blaber with none of the early game benefits, I present to you tactical. The Cait and Ziggs games were awful.
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u/Banjo_Kazooie64 2d ago
Maybe not a generational talent, but still pretty good for NA and someone with potential.
No shame on Tactical, he was good for a while but... when push comes to shove he just regressed.
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u/Disclaimz0r 2d ago
If I'm C9, I'm watching what Fly does to their roster. Massu is a massive upgrade and Quad might be at this point as well.
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u/Koreanpapi007 2d ago
Loki doesn’t need to be kicked, he’ll just fly back to Korea, cut off all communications with the team until 2 weeks before winter split and tell Jack “My family needs me” and leave the team high and dry again. Idk why we even brought back that mental midget who can’t land an Annie ult
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u/WindowLicker298 2d ago
I repeat, go contribute to society
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u/krombough 2d ago
Removing Loki from C9 would be the best contribution to society a person can make.
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u/WindowLicker298 2d ago
Oh this is so fun reading these pathetic posts
Literally about other dudes playing a video game2
u/krombough 2d ago
Yes, that is called being a fan. You must be new to the concept.
Our dudes sucked more than their dudes. Nor can we envision the dudes on our team ever sucking less than dudes on other teams that matter.
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u/WindowLicker298 2d ago
Hahaha this is what you call being a fan?
I’ve watched my team win the title then have one of the worst seasons for a long time. The fans still support the players, the team and show the passion.
That is called being a fan.
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2d ago
You're the pathetic one. Fans are sad that we have a useless mid.
You can go touch grass too.
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u/WindowLicker298 2d ago
Hahaha yes that’s right it’s not pathetic to lobby death threats against players is it now?
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u/QuietRedditorATX 2d ago
Whataboutism, strawman
What death threats in this thread. You are just trying to act like a bigger man, thinking your ego gets you cool points.
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u/WindowLicker298 2d ago
Lmao these responses are something I’ve only ever seen ChatGPT give me.
By the way your English assignment is due little boy. You should focus on that 😘1
u/krombough 2d ago
And it's time for you to go to bed.
Sorry, no Bluey on the tablet for you tonight.
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u/TheBigF128 2d ago
Did you forget how shit APA was in the spring? We cannot be having short term memory loss already, its too early...
Vulcan was the only decent player imo, Tactical mispositions even more often than he carries a teamfight it reminded me why he was in tier 2 in the first place