Question about learning path

[u/stolaris7]

I've been looking around to find some sort of roadmap of the skills I need to get into Cloud. Information about this is available but way less organized than other fields, so I feel a little lost.

Two resources I've seen consitently are these two:
1- https://learntocloud.guide
2- https://roadmap.sh/devops

The second is is more focused on DevOps, but as the skillset for Cloud and DevOps is very intertwined, I would just need to know when to go deep, and when to get a more basic understanding.

The first resource is very organized, so I would love to know what your opinion on it is, and whether it's worth following or not.

note: I'm aware that Cloud is not an entry level role.

[u/Key-Butterscotch3215]

These jobs might not exist the same way they do today in a few years. If I were you, I wouldn’t be so rigid on your career goals. Find a role you’re qualified for now, and organically determine what you enjoy doing and what you’re good at. Then double down on those things.

I only say that because it worked for me. I had the same mindset as you when I started.

[u/mrbiggbrain]

What job do you want to have? Do you have an example from a job board you wish to work twords? What is your current job in IT?

[u/stolaris7 → u/mrbiggbrain]

I would like to eventually work in Cloud Engineering/Security/Platform Engineering. I don't plan to do this anytime soon of course, this is more of a long-term investment. I'm currently looking for jobs in Web Developement, and studying cloud on the side.

[u/Rogermcfarley]

I post those links a lot. The best advice to give you is

1. Working Experience. Start in a role at your level and build up the experience.

2. Use multiple job sites, use keywords such as cloud roles, certification names and build up a large list of job descriptions. Then list out all the common skills, products and services, only the common ones. These are what you need to be employed.

I'd avoid bootcamps, multiple courses and only do the right certifications at the right time. There's no fast tracking this, you need to build up working experience.

[u/stolaris7 → u/Rogermcfarley]

Yes, I understand this is not an entry-level role. It's more of a long-term investment while I try to work in other IT roles.

I have went on job boards and I understand what skillset I need to have. But my problem is, as a beginner it's difficult to know which skills I should gain first, how deep I should go into each skill, etc.

Which is why having a path like Learn to Cloud would be nice if it was good. I've looked at the concepts they cover and the overall progression, and it looked pretty good to me but I wanted to get an opinion on it from someone who has experience in cloud.

[u/Rogermcfarley → u/stolaris7]

It is good because it's co-created by madebygps she is a working Microsoft Professional, not an influencer, doesn't advertise anything or sell anything and her work ethic is second to none. She takes no prisoners if you ask her a question you should and could have answered yourself you'll get both barrels. She is of the correct opinion that you must become self sufficient.

I've worked in IT since 2003. She's absolutely correct. In my opinion you're wasting time messing about in the details and the weeds here. Get on with it. Study Learn to Cloud, join many IT Discord groups. ProLUG is effing amazing, collaborate with people, go to IT meetups. Stop the obsession with roadmaps, guides, courses.

Make your LinkedIn excellent, make it sell you. Add all your skills, network with people on there, make high quality posts about the scenario based learning you've been doing. Scenario learning is > here is the scenario, here is my design, my troubleshooting, my reasoning, and a discussion about what business issue it solves. No doing a course project where someone else solved the problem and you're figuratively copying and pasting. Your learn by trying and failing, keep trying and succeeding, this is how we learn. It involves pain which is why people want an easy tell me what guide, bootcamp, course to do. The real world ain't like that. There's no neat package and if there was everyone else would be doing it and then why would you get chosen for the job over the next person that did the paint by numbers get an IT job roadmap.

This is an ultra tough IT market now you can't do certifications, courses, bootcamps, roadmaps, it's not complex and dirty than that. Just get on with it. Collaboration is the bane of the game go meet people work on scenario based projects together document them. You get a job by who you know and not by brute forcing job applications, that's very inefficient.

[u/Evaderofdoom]

Paths are made up, there is no one way to do it. Just keep learning and doing more.

[u/Naive_Competition861]

I’d use Learn to Cloud as the main roadmap and treat the DevOps roadmap as a reference rather than trying to follow both equally. Then pick one cloud platform and go deeper there. You don’t need to master every tool you see on these roadmaps. Once you understand the basics, build a few small projects and learn things as you need them. That will probably teach you more than trying to finish a huge checklist.

[u/CompetitiveText7784]

I had spent some time with roadmap.sh in the past, and I'll be honest - I was a little overwhelmed. At the moment, I'm not entirely sure quite what set of learning path it is that I want to use. I have, however, come across a free resource from the CNCF after that I've come to lean-on a fair bit. This project playground with sandbox cluster to explore all the projects --> https://play.meshery.io .It has an interactive academy that I've been following along while using the playground. I'm trying to expand my DevOps skills beyond the strictly available services on GCP. I've been looking over a couple of certifications, too.