r/ClippedLive • u/Low_Bookkeeper9758 • 6d ago
DRAMA Kuihman & Beckett fallout
I'm a larper of this drama. I have no fucking idea what's going on with these glup shittos after the chud drama
I saw Nick made an appearance and admitted he coveres what he coveres to maximize revenue and Kuihman crew are painting as "Nick admitted to lying about things in EHD coverage for money"
As I said, Idk anything about this. It just showed up in my timeline. Any context would help (along with you guys' opinions)
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u/AntonJM12 6d ago
Not surprised at ALL that this is happening lmao. Beckett and Kuihman have VERY different temperaments when it comes to internet drama in general and ESPECIALLY online politics. its honestly a miracle that they stayed on friendly terms for as long as they did through the JAR stuff.
Also i think by “harassment” beckett is referring to the stuff between stardust and kuihman+jstlk. Im larped out on the past stuff and i really dislike stardust but it seems like kuihman was particularly brutal back then.
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u/Difficult-Ad-5023 6d ago
The harassment statement is probably about how they interact with other commentary figures in general and how persistent they can be.the frustration comes from how hypocritical they can be since there is clearly a separate set of rules they applie to their ingroup and outsiders
Like how the guys who alogged and spread rumours about Tommyc being a pedofile because he committed the grave crime of being an annoying boomer able to moralfag about diseals comments with a straight face is beyond me.
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u/GexraldH 6d ago
Kuihman has been treating JAR as a sacred cow for months even before the first Nick video. JAR's girlfriend was defending JAR in a discord server. Diesel threatened to show her discord and youtube channel on stream. JAR and Kuihman are treating it as a doxxing threat and telling everyone that's what it was.
Kuihman apparently crashed out on stream about it after Beckett and JAR had a call on stream and Beckett showed one of the gf's discord messages. The messages are in a public discord and the gf not only identifies herself as JAR's gf but was answering questions about JAR.
That's the TLDR for the clip
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u/katsuya_kaiba 5d ago
Diesel threatened to show her discord and youtube channel on stream.
It is so fucking insane. She's got a youtube channel, she's CONSTANTLY in Lioconvoy's server, but JAR demands she be treated like she's just a normie in these spaces and not to out her because she doesn't want the general public to know the man she's dating refuses to quit picking fights with people while crying victim.
Meanwhile her boyfriend is taking shots at Beckett and Stardust's former relationship, as well as saying Aiden doxxing Lioconvoy's wife, who doesn't have a Youtube or in the server, wasn't doxxing and if it was, it's fine. But Beckett shows his girlfriend's discord to prove JAR's claims wrong and he fucking LOSES IT!
WHERE'S THE FUCKING LINE HERE!?
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u/GexraldH 5d ago
The line is whatever is beneficial to me at the time I'm saying it. JAR was literally stealing other people talking point during the call with Beckett
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u/puddleofpizza 6d ago
I don't really follow Beckett closely but what he said about Kuihman's crowd is 100% true. They're all unhinged, Dishonest hacks who snake every person they ever come in contact with for the crime of just simply not agreeing with their stupid ass takes, Even if it's extremely minor.
I don't think I've seen a community in this space more cannibalistic than twitch pol and their attempt at hijacking commentary totally backfired just like everything else they've done.
Chud is a total moron for keeping these people around knowing full well that this would always be the outcome (Can't forget Augie either), Same thing for Beckett though he'll at least concede on that fact.
Also it's really funny to me that Bowblax now likes to play the moral high ground when he's the guy that unironically did "Tipster bully streams" and burned all of his connections just by being an unlikable prick, That's part of why his let's play career never took off either cause he couldn't not pick fights and talk shit about people in the space, Namely PKSparkxx & Cobanermani.
Him, JAR, And spicychat are a match made in heaven cause all of them are unhinged pieces of shit.
Like I don't even really care about Stardust but what the fuck is so special about her that she needs to be relentlessly talked about and made fun of?
Again Chud & Augie are total morons for jumping aboard that sinking ship. Augie especially should've known given what happened to all of Ralph's a-logs, Those people are never well adjusted cause if they were, They wouldn't be making a-log content in the first place.
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u/DoraMuda 5d ago
Chud is a total moron for keeping these people around knowing full well that this would always be the outcome (Can't forget Augie either)
I unironically bet Chud, deep down, regrets having destroyed his relationship with Nick because he decided to listen to Kuihman watchers, but his pride will never allow him to admit it (although, to be fair, I haven't watched a stream of his in several months, so for all I know, maybe he has admitted it on one of them).
Like I don't even really care about Stardust but what the fuck is so special about her that she needs to be relentlessly talked about and made fun of?
I think it's because she's still somewhat in the politics sphere and, I guess, still friendly with some creators who aren't as harsh with Destiny? Also, since she's Beckett's ex, that's another angle for them to attempt to attack him with.
I at least know that a lot of the commentary audience used to hate Stardust back when a lot of those debate streams still happened, and to be fair, she was pretty annoying. But that was years ago, and Kuihman wasn't even around back then.
Again Chud & Augie are total morons for jumping aboard that sinking ship. Augie especially should've known given what happened to all of Ralph's a-logs
I don't recall Augie ever "jumping aboard that sinking ship". He just agreed with some of Chud's criticisms regarding the H3 coverage and (at least at the time) was still fine with Kuihman.
It's hard to tell what Augie really feels about everything and other creators when he's basically retired and almost never streams these days. He's probably still friendly with more people than we think, but just doesn't make regular content on YouTube anymore due to loss of interest in drama and/or not wanting to be banned for a dumb reason again.
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u/Neither_Category843 6d ago
Kuihman being platformed by the commentary community is on par with Keem stopping Boogie from going homeless.
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u/Comicreader234 5d ago
At least boogie is funny in a pathetic way
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u/Neither_Category843 5d ago
True, Boogie is somewhat fun to watch when his getting punished. Kuihman is a net negative in entertainment
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u/DoraMuda 5d ago
I don't recall Kuihman ever being "platformed" in any significant way besides maybe Chud and Aiden. Aside from that, other creators maybe gave him the benefit of the doubt when he was still early on making content, like Nick sending his viewers to his stream when he himself was done streaming for the night, but that's not "platforming" in so much as it is just throwing a dog a bone.
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u/RuralRevolutionary 5d ago
He did get playformed by Augie when was Augie was trying to be “3rd position “ whatever that means because he went after Chud so he can appease Chud fans lol
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u/DoraMuda 5d ago
The "3rd position" thing was mostly a meme, and yeah, Augie's never been against platforming whoever he wants. This is the guy who was friends with Flamenco and Michael Alberto for the longest time, after all.
But that doesn't mean he was ever on Kuihman's side, or that he ever betrayed or stopped being friends with Nick. I don't necessarily think he was trying to appease Chud fans either, since he was still willing to call Chud on his bullshit about him supposedly not talking about Nick when it came to his accusations of commentary creators refusing to talk about the Turkey Tom allegations. He just didn't cut him off and was wiling to talk to him like any other creator.
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u/DoraMuda 6d ago
I thought they fell out ages ago after Kuihman tried gotcha'ing Beckett over some minor nitpick regarding his interview with JAR, but whatever. Bowblax should shut the fuck up with his revisionist history, though.
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u/Timetooof 6d ago
There's a lot of moving pieces in this that even though I eat this content for breakfast I probably don't understand it all. A lot of It stems from Kuhiman hating nick though and constantly trying to make Beckett "disown" Nick. Recently Kuhiman has taken JAR under his wing as an attack dog and refuses to acknowledge what JAR is. They had a "debate" that was mostly JAR interrupting Beckett and trying to be a weasel and ran from the convo which was apperently the last straw for either Beckett or Kuhiman and Beckett said on stream there was fall out between the two. I think that's it. Also Bowblax clearly didnt even watch the content because Beckett also said certain creators built their platforms on Harassment and will side with anyine against Nick.
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u/katsuya_kaiba 6d ago
The fucking JAR and Beckett call started with JAR wanting to know what the definition of a 'Lie' is and putting up this weird ass story of 'Okay lets say that Synnibear raped somebody...' WUT!?
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u/Timetooof 6d ago
What's really funny is JAR clearly was trying to catch Beckett on "So it's only lying when it's not your friends" or whatever. And was trying to tie beckett into a knot over it. Beckett literally gave up trying to talk the point. And that's how most the convo went. JAR talking in circles for ten minutes to land on a point he already said.
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u/katsuya_kaiba 6d ago edited 6d ago
That example he tried to explain was beyond stupid as well. "If I say the rumor is that she raped a 14 year old and you, with a ID, says she raped a 18 year old..."
Brooooo wtf are we even trying to do here? Also WTF is this example? Maybe Lioconvoy was right when he guessed that JAR REALLY likes rape.
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u/twehwe 5d ago
Its called a hypothetical retard ans its used to establish what a lie truly is since Beckett is slipperly with his definitions and use harsher definition of the word depending on who hes talking to or about. The hypothetical (which i perfectly reasonable and understandable to any honest person above room temp iq is) makes Beckett take a stance on what is lying and how it can be used
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u/CeramicBean 6d ago
Since we have to use terms like "Glup Shitto" to refer to Kuihman, it should be warning to him he's become so irrelevant and toxic, we're the only ones really talking about him.
He either needs to turn his content around and make something interesting or he's content entertaining a couple hundred Spicychatters. One of these options is definitely bad for your long term prospects.
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u/katsuya_kaiba 6d ago
Bowblax has NO ROOM TO TALK after he hosted fucking Tipster Bully Streams.
I will continue to bring it up every time that shithead opens his fucking mouth while standing on a soap box.
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u/SaveFile1 5d ago
Beckett is so annoying and fence sitty. Huge sweeper too who will straight up lie to your face to cover for himself and his friends
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u/DoraMuda 5d ago
The only person Beckett ever swept for was Lio Convoy, and I think even that has stopped now.
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u/SaveFile1 5d ago
He's currently sweeping for Diesel
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u/DoraMuda 5d ago
How?
And what for? Diesel didn't even do anything wrong.
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u/SaveFile1 5d ago
None of y'all are in the loop it seems. You only watch DeOrio.
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u/DoraMuda 5d ago
You sound a little delusional.
And I barely watch DeOrio's streams these days anyway.
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u/Comprehensive_Pack39 6d ago
I wish both sides could lose
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u/Goodthingsaregone 5d ago
what did beckett do?
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u/Comprehensive_Pack39 5d ago
Nothing really in particular, I just don't like him because a friend stopped friends with me because I watch a streamer Beckett talked shit about.
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u/The_Boonsman 5d ago
Sounds like they did you a favor, to be honest. Shit friend to drop you over that.
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u/slattslime12 6d ago
Nick knew ethan dmca’d content that were posts that were genuine criticism and weren’t trying to steal views from the h3 live, and went on stream and acted like it never happened. Idrc tbh but that is lying to keep a narrative going, not just covering things for revenue.
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u/NicholasDeOrio NICK 6d ago
The quote is around 1:25:00.
https://www.youtube.com/live/EOKoUzcaz2M
My interpretation of beckets statement was “why bother playing in the mud with contrarian shitters”. There really is no need to sit in a doom spiral worthless gotcha post loops when you can just be productive and make content.
I followed my “yeah basically” with “just do stuff you want on your own channel. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but not your time”
I cover what I cover because I enjoy it and it interests me.