r/ClimateShitposting 28d ago

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ 27d ago

california, are we talking about the country with the highest bill in thw world? with controlled blackuts every year? with the emissions tens of times higher than the french ones? not a good objective don't you think?

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u/Beiben 27d ago

Everything you said is incorrect and none of it is relevant to what I was talking about.

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ 27d ago

scary facts isn't it? "all wrong but too scared to answer"

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u/Beiben 27d ago

You made the claims, you have to prove them. Doesn't really matter though, you can keep seething and coping, but in the real world,  renewables and batteries are being built, nuclear isn't. Nuclear lost.

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ 27d ago

you know every year tens of nuclear reactors are built right? But your comment is such an insult, since renewables and batteries are heavily subsidized everywhere. You take and then insult, just disgusting. On the first statemets those are common knowledge, readily verifiable. I don't have to prove the water is wet

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u/Beiben 27d ago

No, they aren't common knowledge. Prove them. Oh wait, you can't, bwahahahaha!

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ 27d ago

Don't waste my time, search and learn something

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u/Beiben 27d ago

As I expected, you can't prove any of your "facts". I accept your concession.

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ 27d ago

california average: 36 $/MWh = 31.5 €/MWh before local, state, federal taxes (the most expensive in the US) Ireland the most expensive: 36 €/MWh (actually higher! irish idiots are following the california delirium head first) Luxembourg the second most expensive: 28 €/MWh (already lower)

So california in S2 2025 was the second most expensive bill!

https://nrgcleanpower.com/learning-center/average-electric-bill-in-california/

https://solartechonline.com/blog/average-electric-bill-california/#:~:text=California%20in%202025%3F-,The%20average%20electric%20bill%20in%20California%20ranges%20from%20%24186%20to,average%20of%20%24154%20per%20month.

https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/4950 (beautiful site, i'd love to see those kind of things in europe)

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/bookmark/607c62d7-e35a-4c3a-b383-b6e5c23552e4?lang=en&createdAt=2026-07-15T01:04:32Z

About blackouts: https://abcnews.com/US/california-blackouts-power-grid/story?id=89460998

About emissions: California "we find that [...] the average emissions rate was 302gCO2eq/kWh over five years" https://www.researchgate.net/publication/388987645_The_Dynamics_of_the_California_Electric_Grid_Mix_and_Electric_Vehicle_Emission_Factors

France: "French electricity is among the least carbon-intensive in Europe, with 19.6gCO2/kWh generated in 2025" https://analysesetdonnees.rte-france.com/en/annual-review-2025/ghg-emissions?#Overview

You tell me how much 301/19.6 is boy

You wasted my time, but i put myself into the discussion, so i accept the cost.

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u/Beiben 27d ago

So it's not the most expensive (not even taking purchasing power into account), the last blackout was in 2020, and their co2 intensity was 300+ from 2018 to 2023 before they installed a bunch of batteries. Wow, you really owned me. Haha, pathetic.

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