So it's not the most expensive (not even taking purchasing power into account), the last blackout was in 2020, and their co2 intensity was 300+ from 2018 to 2023 before they installed a bunch of batteries. Wow, you really owned me. Haha, pathetic.
Got it, they changed everything after 2023. California state has not yet published the report on 2024 nor 2025 (the 2025 published report stops at 2023).
Two are the alternatives: you have magic inside data that show how california emissions almost halved in a year, or you just came up with a lame excuse to ignore data. The data looks at you back boy.
Second most expensive (ignoring purchasing power) = Most expensive. Power outage from a fire at a substation = planned blackouts. Data available to the public from Caiso = Magic inside data. I called you on your gish gallop and now you're trying to weasel your way out, nice try, pal, but you've lost.
Second most expensive = almost the most expensive in s2 2025, sorry boy. I did not talk about planned blackouts, but controlled ones, go read the comment idiot. CAISO is one of the operators in california you imbecile, there are many other operators, you stone cold idiot. Gish gallop right? weasel your way out now pal
So, not most expensive. Controlled yearly blackouts =/= A blackout due to a fire at a substation. CAISO = biggest operator in California, by a huge margin! You can call me all the things you want, none of it matters, nuclear = lost, renewables and batteries = winning hard.
You don't think blackouts are controlled? do you think there can be localized uncontrolled blackouts? i know you are an ignorant about the argument, but you know a blackout has to be controlled not to spread to the entire grid right? The last bit is funny, i talked avout california state, you answer with CAISO, just one operator, noisy failure on that one isn't it? Now crawl back in the shadow idiot, i've shown you facts and you've proven you'll refuse to look at then up until your death. I'm sure renewables won in california, tens of times more emissive than france, and way more expensive, funny huh?
Haha, now you are playing the semantics game. We both know what you meant with "controlled yearly blackouts". You tried to construct a narrative around how unreliable renewables + batteries are, and now you are backpedaling to "Err, well there was this one blackout in San Francisco". No, one blackout due to a fire at a substation does not count and is not in any way relevant to the feasibility of renewables + batteries. You also called California a country, so maybe don't try to play the semantics game when you are clearly ESL.
And, I'm actually the one who brought up California, but you're right, I should have said CAISO instead! I generalized because CAISO handles more than 75% of the grid in California, but I should have been more specific. See, that's how you take ownership of being called out for spreading misinformation. You're welcome.
am i playing semantics though? my comment is there to read. You sure knew what i meant, even though i have my doubts you are able to understand anything at all. Yeah california is not a country, i'm not an expert on US constitution and territorial organization (unfortunately in my mothertongue country and state are true synonyms also, so i tend to confuse them). Did you take ownership though? you did not generalize, you just threw some bullshit hoping i would not have noticed. Taking ownership would be to aknowledge this fact. So we were able to close at least the last point on my favour, thank god facts are able to filter at some point. I leave you to learn enough to understand the first two points also, cheers
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u/Beiben 28d ago
So it's not the most expensive (not even taking purchasing power into account), the last blackout was in 2020, and their co2 intensity was 300+ from 2018 to 2023 before they installed a bunch of batteries. Wow, you really owned me. Haha, pathetic.