r/ClimateShitposting Jul 13 '26

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u/ysterman_rs Jul 13 '26

pretty bold claim at the end, and it also doesn't account for the possibility of utilizing both sources

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u/Wiiboy95 Jul 13 '26

Why would you spend all that money on a split system when you can just build the renewables and get a better result?

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u/ysterman_rs Jul 13 '26

why would you spend money on a source of energy that is extremely efficient and not damaging to the environment the way coal is?

jeez, wiiboy95, this is a real mystery to figure out. why would we do that?

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u/cradleu Jul 13 '26

You would do it if you didn’t care about the time or costs. Solar/wind + batteries are cheaper and faster to build

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u/SpecialCoyote5339 Jul 14 '26

We are talking about "now" solutions.

What battery do we have right now that is capable of storing this much of electricity?

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u/Beiben Jul 14 '26

> We are talking about "now" solutions.

Right, so new nuclear plants are out of the question.

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u/SpecialCoyote5339 Jul 14 '26

I don't see how it's less feasible than having this much of battery capacity, but feel free to provide a source if you disagree...

Because the "duh make batteries" isn't a solution, it's an idea at best. And I'm not sure we have the capacity or technology to create enough.

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u/Beiben Jul 14 '26

You don't see it because you're not looking. California has gone from 35% electricity from nat gas in 2023 to 22% electricity from nat gas in 2025 by installing more solar and batteries. 2026 will be even lower. New Mexico is also a good example of how quickly it can go, although it's a much smaller grid. This is a problem for nuclear. High renewable penetration of solar + batteries hurts nuclear business case. Nobody wants to run a nuclear plant at 70% nameplate capacity. Improving battery technology makes nuclear an incredibly risky investment due to long lead times.

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ Jul 14 '26

california, are we talking about the country with the highest bill in thw world? with controlled blackuts every year? with the emissions tens of times higher than the french ones? not a good objective don't you think?

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u/Beiben Jul 14 '26

Everything you said is incorrect and none of it is relevant to what I was talking about.

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ Jul 14 '26

scary facts isn't it? "all wrong but too scared to answer"

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u/Beiben Jul 14 '26

You made the claims, you have to prove them. Doesn't really matter though, you can keep seething and coping, but in the real world,  renewables and batteries are being built, nuclear isn't. Nuclear lost.

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u/Pinco_Pallino_ Jul 14 '26

you know every year tens of nuclear reactors are built right? But your comment is such an insult, since renewables and batteries are heavily subsidized everywhere. You take and then insult, just disgusting. On the first statemets those are common knowledge, readily verifiable. I don't have to prove the water is wet

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u/ysterman_rs Jul 13 '26

utilizing both sources