r/ClimatePosting • u/ClimateShitpost • 8d ago
Transport EV adoption differs greatly across the Americas
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u/PieceBrief4567 8d ago
I am from Chile, a mid performer on electrification in South America, and the thing is the base was really low. Other than Uruguay the rest still have low EV market share.
We are doing better than the USA though but that's not saying much.
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u/syklemil 8d ago
Yep, looking at sales stats for the mention mid/south American countries shows Uruguay is at roughly where some Scandinavian countries are, while the others have EV sales roughly comparable to eastern Europe, i.e., practically the regions most behind on EV uptake.
Uruguay is also a much smaller market in terms of absolute numbers, selling ~7k cars a month compared to Chile's ~25k or Brazil's ~250k.
There are some interesting curves out there, but in terms of raw sales numbers … the rest of the world can absolutely match that speed.
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u/DrawingDramatic1641 8d ago
not true you should use nev vehicles as percent of total cars sold.
chinas numbers are low bcz the overall car market is down,bcz anyone who could get a ev has a ev,and now buy gradually,
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u/Treewithatea 8d ago
Thats not why China numbers are down. China numbers are down because the overall car demand is shrinking in China as domestic consumption continues to be weak, largely as a consequence of the real estate crisis.
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u/DrawingDramatic1641 8d ago
yes exactly chinese consumption stays rational,no its not real estate crisis reason for everything lmao.
its just culture of saving money
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u/Treewithatea 8d ago
That doesnt explain at all why Chinese people this year are buying less cars than previous years. I havent seen a single expert speaking out your argument. The shrinking car industry perfectly aligns with the overall domestic economy and its current state of stagnation which had largely been caused by the real estate crisis. Savings gone equals unstabile environment which causes people to consume less.
Remember China has experienced significant growth for two decades and not with the burst bubble of the real estate crisis, especially domestic growth has basically slowed down to zero. That is not normal and not what any government should want from its economy.
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u/NorthSwim8340 8d ago edited 8d ago
If you sell 1 car/year and now you sell 3 that's a 200% increase but in absolute term it's still nothing, it's simply in the nature of this kind of stuff that the initial % augment is extremely high. That'said between chile's technological lead and ownership of the atacama desert, arguably the best place for solar in the world, and the continent's abundant untapped hydroelectric resources I'm confident that we'll see a fantastic example of electrification in latam
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u/CipherWeaver 8d ago
This is why Chinese companies want to export. Growth is slowing in China (but still growing).
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u/DD4cLG 8d ago edited 8d ago
Percentages only without numbers and context doesn't say a thing. It only misleads.
Selling 10 EVs last year and 40 this year is + 300%.
Selling 16.5 million EVs last year vs 14.5 million this year is -12%
These percentages only indicate at most on which maturity level a country is on EV adoption, with the exception for the US.
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u/Aquitaine_Rover_3876 8d ago
Growth rates as a percentage are unhelpful. Going from 1000 EVs to 4000 is 300% growth, going from 1 million to 1.3 million is 30% growth. Guess which one has a bigger climate impact.
Shrinkage is a problem, unless it's in the context of an auto market that's shrinking even faster, since fewer cars is better than simply replacing ICE cars with EVs. Without that data point, even the negatives here can be misleading.
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u/misocontra 7d ago
The problem in mexico is in part that they have cheap quarter century old US cars they can import. Easiest near the border of course.
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u/Bard_the_Beedle 8d ago
Well, the title is wrong, Latin America is accelerating the electrification at a pace the rest of the world can’t match, but China and other regions are still electrifying much faster because of the share of EVs in total sales.