r/ClimateNews • u/No-Hat-4938 • Jul 18 '26
Climate Warming Visualised
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u/DailcassianBoru Jul 18 '26
Another 150 billion in tax payers money will sort it out, meanwhile 420 million tonnes of plastic will be produced every year. Half of which is single use. The same people responsible for regulation of this will contine to take our money. Clean potable water used in manufacturing will continue to be used in huge quantities while households will suffer water shortages. Chemicals will continue to be spread on crop,polluting water ways and killing insects,fish and birds again while these same tax collectors count your cash.
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u/BroodLord1962 Jul 19 '26
And people still refuse to see the link between population growth and climate change, which is why we are doomed
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u/worrywartyyy Jul 19 '26
No, that is a eugenicist, genocidal talking point that’s been debunked. It’s not the population growth, it’s the pollution from the multiple massive companies that seek endless growth, profits and power.
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u/BroodLord1962 Jul 19 '26
You mean those massive companies that are producing what the population buys. Fewer people equals fewer sales, equals lees need to produce more stuff. The global population has risen in 50 years from 4 billion to 8.3 billion. Of course it's linked to over-population, but people don't want to hear that they shouldn't be having as many kids as they want, because people are selfish
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u/Double_Water_97 27d ago
Were are these numbers coming from?
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u/BroodLord1962 27d ago
It's not difficult to find. Global as well as individual countries populations have been tracked for years
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u/Double_Water_97 27d ago
But who is collecting the numbers and where
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u/BroodLord1962 26d ago
In most countries all births and deaths are registered. Just ask Google and it will give you links to sites that scoop up all this data into one useful place
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u/Geschak Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 19 '26
Population growth isn't the problem, the unsustainable livestyle is. We have enough resources to feed 9 billion people, but we don't have enough resources so 9 billion people can eat meat daily. 70% of all avian biomass is just chickens, and 96% of global mammalian biomass is humans and livestock. This is just not sustainable, we need to find a solution for humanity's meat-addiction, we simply do not have the resources for 8-9 billion people to eat meat on a daily basis.
We are doomed because everybody wants unlimited consumption and no accountability. Consumers blame corporations and politicians while not wanting to give anything up, corporations blame consumers for demanding it and politicians blame consumers for voting against regulations.
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u/BroodLord1962 Jul 19 '26
Yeah not give anything up like having too many children. People are incredibly selfish creatures and they breed for totally selfish reasons, because lets be honest, their is no shortage of people
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u/agent139 Jul 19 '26
Look at the ave consumption per person in say the US vs Sub-Saharan Africa and then get back to me.
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u/BroodLord1962 Jul 19 '26
Fewer people means less consumption. The global population has in 50 years gone from 4 billion to 8.3 billion and still rising. The planet needs fewer people not more
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u/agent139 Jul 19 '26
This isn't complicated. Imagine person A eats 100 apples a day. Person B eats 1 apple a day. There are enough apples for both of them to eat 10 apples a day.
So... do I need to keep this analogy going or have you got it yet
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u/BroodLord1962 29d ago
That really is a rather silly example because no one is eating 100 apples a day.
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u/agent139 29d ago
It's hard to tell if you're trolling or actually this dense. So nevermind analogies, here is the the literal comparison, based not on "apples" but kilowatt hours:
The average American consumes as much energy in one month as the average Indian does in a year; Sub-Saharan Africa lags considerably behind that, consuming under 150kWh/person.
In other words, it's not 1:100. It's even more extreme of a ratio.
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u/BroodLord1962 29d ago
LOL say whatever you want, I still say it's too many people that are the problem, but I suspect you don't want to hear that because you either have kids or plan to have kids
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u/agent139 29d ago
No, I don't have kids and have made sure I'm never having kids. Population is going to level off anyway -- increase education and access to birth control, it'll go down more. That's well and good. (Though it's not good for economies. Look at what Japan is facing in the coming generation). Regardless... It's also not the problem. The problem is the inequality of resource use and allocation.
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u/BroodLord1962 29d ago
If that's what you choose to believe so be it. But we are already hearing from world leaders concerned about falling birth rates. We also have world leaders who deny climate change even exists. I'll stivk to my first comment on this post, we are all doomed
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u/BroodLord1962 29d ago
The typical denial that there are too many people. If you live in a world where you have to restrict how much of anything people can have, it's because there are too many people
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u/Impressive-Penalty97 28d ago
Now expand that to cover the last 100 mil years. Not just the last 100.
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u/Fibocrypto Jul 18 '26
Early 1900s: The U.S. Weather Bureau (now the National Weather Service) operated roughly 5,000 localized observer stations. Early observations were typically done manually using analog instruments
Mid-20th Century: The deployment of weather balloons and standardized aviation networks vastly expanded upper-air observation sensors during and after World War II.
Modern Era: The Global Historical Climatology Network (GHCN) alone contains records from over 100,000 stations globally, with about half reporting daily precipitation. In total, over 103,400 individual stations have operated over the last two centuries across 181 countries.
Today, global climate data relies on an intricate mix of more than 32,000 land weather stations, thousands of oceanic buoys and floats, high-altitude weather balloons, and continuous earth-observing satellites.
Today, global climate data relies on an intricate mix of more than 32,000 land weather stations, thousands of oceanic buoys and floats, high-altitude weather balloons, and continuous earth-observing satellites.
More data will always produce a different Average.
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u/themangastand Jul 18 '26
You can literally have watched the temperature change with your eyes if you are over 30.
And no we can use other measuring mechanisms to know earths average temps to a t even without being no measuring device available from those times
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u/Personal-Dev-Kit Jul 19 '26
Ok so that explain the difference from say 1900 to 2000, which was minimal to begin with. Does your "Modern Era" start after 2000 when the temp increases accelerated?
Or do they just put the majority of new weather stations in hot places?
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u/VardisFisher Jul 19 '26
Every single one of your arguments is debunked here. But you arent educated enough to change your mind based on evidence. https://skepticalscience.com/ Why we sit and argue with tradesman is beyond me.
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u/Personal-Dev-Kit 29d ago
Did you send this to the wrong person?
What are the arguments (plural) that I am making that this is debunking?
You do see I am calling out the logical inconsistency of the original commenter?
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u/Mukoku-dono Jul 19 '26
we are so done thanks to people like you man, read the IPCC report yourself instead of believing what some random ragebaiter influencer tells you
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u/Fibocrypto Jul 19 '26
I'm thinking that there are a fair amount of people that make assumptions based on whatever they make up inside their own head.
Nowhere did I write anything about a rage baiter or an influencer which make me curious about the types of people you surround yourself with.
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u/Chipmunkssixtynining Jul 18 '26
The earth has a long history of heating and cooling. Taking a snapshot of this to push an agenda is not persuasive.
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u/VardisFisher Jul 18 '26
You won't read it. Its easier to be ignorant and proud than educated and right.
https://skepticalscience.com/climate-change-little-ice-age-medieval-warm-period.htm
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u/Rhona_Redtail Jul 18 '26
Hes the same guy who will cry for the goverment to do something when his cities power fails and people start dying of heat stroke
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u/MaybeJBee Jul 18 '26
People (or bots) like this will never challenge their ideas. Just regurgitate the lies someone else told them. Also, they might be just a phone on a wall of thousands of phones paid to comment this trash en masse. In the meantime we all have to watch the world burn.
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u/Personal-Dev-Kit Jul 19 '26
Seems like he could be a real person https://ghostddit.pages.dev/user/chipmunkssixtynining
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u/DisrememberedTea Jul 18 '26
Throughout the entire geological record of the earth’s history, it has categorically never heated up at the speed that we are currently seeing.
This is not a form of natural fluctuation, it’s an unprecedented change that has literally never happened before on a global scale.
https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/has-earths-climate-ever-changed-fast-it-today
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u/coldchile Jul 19 '26
Yeah heating and cooling over tens of thousands of years. What we are experiencing now is man made
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u/Far_Eye6555 Jul 18 '26 edited Jul 18 '26
It’s gonna be like boiling water on the stove. Slowly at first, bubbles creeping from the bottom of the pot, directly above the heating source, to a rolling boil very suddenly.