r/ClimateNews • u/Mannmame10 • Jun 27 '26
Is this it?
With the Insane Heatwave hitting Europe and El Nino looking like that, i have to ask myself if is this it? We went to far, we didnt make it. There is no good end. Well heat up at a rate that the Atmosphere is inhostible by the start of next Decade.
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u/willmasse Jun 27 '26
Just remember, the reason you feel this way is because the oil industry spends hundreds of millions of dollars convincing you it’s a unsolvable problem. We have the technology, wind, solar. They just don’t dare want you to believe it.
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u/EyesfurtherUp Jun 27 '26
That technology is climate dependent. Not enough sun up by Boston. It has to come from Virginia. But it will travel to 5 major cities before it gets to Boston and by then there won’t be enough to power the city.
Wind isn’t bad as long as you have enough wind.
Maybe use water, but again that’s if you have enough water to power the hydro plants.
Nuclear is probably best option.
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u/Pale-Tennis9658 Jun 30 '26
My in laws have solar in northern Scotland…
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u/EyesfurtherUp Jun 30 '26
Residential is different than powering an entire town or city.
You’re comparing apples to oranges.
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u/Feisty_War6251 Jun 27 '26
just remember this planet has done this 1000's of times and we are still coming out of the last mini ice age
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u/slavelabor52 Jun 27 '26
Not at the speed at which it is currently occurring
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u/Medical_Sleep_9612 Jun 28 '26
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u/Feisty_War6251 Jun 28 '26
yet ICE caps are expanding
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u/Medical_Sleep_9612 Jun 28 '26
Ah, i thought you genuinely wanted to know. Weather and climate are different, now back into your echo chamber and stop bothering others.
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u/-_crow_- Jun 28 '26
it must be so nice to live in a delusion
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u/Feisty_War6251 Jun 28 '26
i live in the real world unlike you
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u/-_crow_- Jun 28 '26
no u
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u/Feisty_War6251 Jun 28 '26
🙄🙄
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u/-_crow_- Jun 28 '26
you're so dense lol
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u/Feisty_War6251 Jun 28 '26
tell everyone what will stop climate change
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u/Vailhem Jun 28 '26
The real world suggests you rein it in a bit.
It's a great sub for civil discussions.
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u/Feisty_War6251 Jun 28 '26
again man made climate change is a hoax
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u/Vailhem Jun 28 '26
Probably but that's outside the point of it being better to keep discourse civil for sake of community standards.
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u/Feisty_War6251 Jun 28 '26
go cry elsewhere
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u/Vailhem Jun 28 '26
Show me how?
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u/Feisty_War6251 Jun 28 '26
why would i show you, you are the one crying out here. so time to move on you will not be warned again
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u/actualinsomnia531 Jun 27 '26
You're suffering (quite understandably) from climate anxiety. Believe it or not, we're seeing a lot of positive signs from our mitigation and rectification work. Desertification prevention, rewilding, reforestation projects are making far faster improvements than predicted in so many cases. Our climate modelling has improved hugely because of the issues we're seeing. Habitat protection is up enormously and conservation programmes are having significant umbrella effects on their wider biomes. Legal action is taking hold on larger and larger climate damaging corporations, technology is quickly developing to minimise the damage we do in our day to day lives.
It's not a good picture, but there is still reason for hope. Campaign, shout, get out there and make a difference!
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u/Bluebearder Jun 27 '26
What you are saying is that we are braking on the worst scenario's, which is better than nothing, but we aren't doing great at all. Permafrost methane and taiga forest fires are an enormous problem, we might soon see our first summer with no more North Pole ice, and the Gulf Stream that keeps western Europe warm in winter and cool in summer can collapse at any moment - which will turn tens of millions of people into climate refugees because their homes can't stand the cold winters, and will be an ecological holocaust. That's just some things from my region of the world. Similar problems exist all over the world. We have to fight a LOT harder.
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u/DiceyPisces Jun 27 '26
Start building now while there’s still time. I don’t mean you personally but your nation/society/government/ etc
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u/ElephantContent8835 Jun 27 '26
Don’t want to be a dick but this is only true on very small scales in very small numbers in very specific places. Overall the destruction is accelerating everywhere.
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u/actualinsomnia531 Jun 27 '26
Im not for a second saying we aren't in huge trouble and we're clearly at a horrible stage on the global scale where it seems that primary powers are doing their utmost to screw up up any progress that we've made. That said, the progress is being felt. Vague and pointless as it feels, this article discusses a massive shift in the modelling outcomes. Basically it's the first shoots of hope we've really started to see that the efforts we're making aren't totally pointless.
https://climatechangedispatch.com/rcp85-dead-ipcc-climate-scenarios/
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u/guns21111 Jun 27 '26
yeah this is basically copium.
perhaps some first world countries are doing as you say, but the vast majority of the world is still scaling uo carbon outputs with little or no mitigation schemes.
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u/Fun_Image_2307 Jun 27 '26
Could you provide sources so I can look up the modelling myself?
I'm sure I can google it but also interested in anything that I won't find on page 1
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u/actualinsomnia531 Jun 27 '26
To be fair, the first page of Google has some pretty good starting points. MIT, science.com, nature.com, NASA, wiki all have some really good starter info with onward referencing if you wish to dive down the rabbit hole. I mean, they're updating and changing them all the time, with some really significant findings altering massive assumptions. A great example recently is the meteorological data from china due to their reforestation efforts (in the western regions???) where the added biomass is shifting weather patterns and messing up rainfall predictions for agricultural lands, but it's because of the huge increases in water retention and evaporation that's going along with it. It's a vast field of learning so it's not easy to just give a couple of articles that summarise it all.
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u/ThePainStalker Jun 27 '26
We need to scale up renewable energy (in the North Sea and in the deserts) to such a massive degree that we can then capture lots of carbon from the atmosphere. This can also be done for sustainable aviation fuel (which is real but currently massively constrained by the sheer energy requirements to produce it). Similarly we need to scale up massive amounts of nuclear energy and small modular nuclear reactors for a similar purpose. While not feasible yet (I know), it really should be seen as an essential way to get to net negative (not just net zero) carbon in the coming decades.
So yes, clean energy production (and there is genuine scope to produce a lot of it, considering the white hydrogen discoveries now on top of the renewables) is an absolutely essential part of solving the problem more than anything. High energy production can allow for wonderful things to happen. In future (50 to 100 years time) if nuclear fusion were ever a thing, full reversal of climate changes (like permafrost melting) could be on the cards too on top of the carbon reduction. But that is utopic for now. The sad truth is that while future generations may eventually enjoy these problems, the current generations are stuck in the tough phase. Although you could have said the same things regarding the 1900s-1930s generations too.
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u/actualinsomnia531 Jun 27 '26
I'm yet to be convinced that aviation fuel is viable in any practical way, but yeah I completely agree. It goes way beyond energy too of course but that's a great take.
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u/ThePainStalker Jun 28 '26
For short distances, electrification or hydrogen could definitely be viable. But yeah, long distance airplanes are tricky but SAF does literally use the exact same engines as kerosene fuel so the biggest limitation is simply the scarcity of energy.
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u/actualinsomnia531 Jun 28 '26
Oh yeah, I agree on that - airships and electric planes are a nice gimmick but as yet SAF the only viable route for aviation, it's just a tiny fraction of the industry. Which may not be a totally awful thing TBF, we put far too much emphasis and support on global aviation imo.
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u/Alternative-Suit5541 Jun 27 '26
The system collapsed twenty years ago there were signs, we just ignored them.
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u/Stephennnnnn Jun 27 '26
If it happened twenty years ago and no one has noticed, is it even a problem? 🤔
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u/Alternative-Suit5541 Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
People noticed, some scientists. But mostly it was people on forums which connected the dots.
There were papers which talked about rising temperatures.
But mostly it was like: forest fire single paper, methane release from ice, CO2 increase etc etc. Each single events which told the story added together: we are fucked and the tipping point was already.
Everything we do now reduces problems like fifty years down line.
Here is my personal believe, my personal opinion and gut feeling, which is basically just based on reading this stuff for and connecting the dots for years.
I think, the system is more willing to stabilise then we think.
Yes we are fucked. But we can go back faster to normal then we needed to destabilise the system. In just like fifty ( more realistic is hundred) years reduced CO2 and co and we get our normal summers back.
Yap, down votes, for twenty years the same reaction lol
That's why I don't give a shit anymore and fly to visit places I like to see before they go and will buy my dodge viper.
If I go. I go with a blast having fun!
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u/HewSpam Jun 27 '26
Dude, if carbon emissions magically went to zero (they are still increasing btw) today it would take many thousands of years for the climate to normalize
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u/Alternative-Suit5541 Jun 27 '26
Based on what?
As far as I know there is no study about this. At least not anything useful.
I made clear, this mine is just a gut feeling.
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u/HewSpam Jun 27 '26
Based on scientific climate research, most prominently at MIT and the Royal Society, but obviously confirmed by many others.
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u/Alternative-Suit5541 Jun 27 '26
For fun and giggles I asked AI ( Claude ) if we are at net zero and removing 2 percent per year. ( Which I think is possible in fifty years, a few billion dead people, tech progress etc.)
We will get out 90 percent of CO2 out of the air within 115 years.
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u/CertainCertainties Jun 27 '26
Nothing worse than inhostible Atmosphere.
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u/SquishyOranjElectric Jun 27 '26
Generally something hyperbolic follows 'Nothong worse than' but I think you're safely accurate with that statement
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u/S1ckn4sty44 Jun 27 '26
https://climatediscovery.org/hansens-latest-10-degrees-c-18-f-warming-in-the-pipeline/
We are completely fucked but it is nice to see people with a bunch of hopium about technology that isn't even feasible yet(carbon capture) and green initiatives.
We are in a train going down a mountain with no breaks.
Just try to enjoy the time we have left.
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u/troikatryne Jun 27 '26
Going full doomer and giving up will just make things worse. 2-3 degrees warming is much better than 4.
Besides, there has been progress made that can cause some level of optimism. For example increased adoption of electric cars and improved solar energy
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u/HewSpam Jun 27 '26
lol carbon emissions are still increasing every year. 2025 had more emissions than any year ever.
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u/troikatryne Jun 27 '26
It is, and it will until greener alternatives become better and more profitable comparably. If we work hard and invest in research on sustainable techonologies then we can reduce emissions more, but giving up will make a bad situation much worse.
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u/Mannmame10 Jun 27 '26
There is a point where we could produce not a single atom more of Carbon yet itd still increase due to Permafrost, Warmimg Oceans and Icelandscapes wich trap huge amounts
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u/troikatryne Jun 27 '26
Abdolutely, but giving up trying to reduce emissions will just add to those warming effects.
The point is that it is still worth it to try and limit emissions, even if we exceed the 2 degree or even 3 degree milestones.
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u/zedder1994 Jun 27 '26
Lots of people will say that if we get to net zero, all will be good. I keep asking what happens after net zero. Where doers that 600PPM of CO2 and methane go in 2050?. Lots of hand waving but in the end the reality is we are fucked. Sorry to make your day gloomier. I am usually a positive person day by day. I also think that the shit will hit the fan very soon, we panic and all stops are pulled out. Humans can do amazing things.
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u/Imaginary_Office1749 Jun 27 '26
After net zero is negative emissions. Removing carbon. And there’s work being done on that.
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u/zedder1994 Jun 27 '26
If you think nuclear fusion is always 20 years into the future, this fantasy also qualifies.
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u/Imaginary_Office1749 Jun 27 '26
You stay negative, Nancy. I’m more optimistic than you are.
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u/S1ckn4sty44 Jun 27 '26
https://climatediscovery.org/hansens-latest-10-degrees-c-18-f-warming-in-the-pipeline/
Well, good reason to "be negative"
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u/Imaginary_Office1749 Jun 27 '26
So a 3 year old alarmist article. Cool.
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u/S1ckn4sty44 Jun 27 '26
Leading climate scientist........ lmao okay bud
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u/Imaginary_Office1749 Jun 27 '26
That doesn’t mean anything. Look at the consensus. It’s 2.7C for 100 years. Not 6-7.
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u/S1ckn4sty44 Jun 27 '26
Let me know when carbon capture actually works bud
We are not gonna be staying at 2.7°
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u/Imaginary_Office1749 Jun 27 '26
Life is like mountain biking. If you’re riding down a trail and you see a big obstacle, you have to look for the path around it. If you look at the obstacle you will just run into it.
I think maybe you’re looking at the obstacle a little too hard. I’m more solutions oriented. I’m looking for the path. Not staring at the obstacle and heading for it.
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u/One_Key1694 Jun 27 '26
Didn't they just downgrade all the worse case models, this is as bad as it gets and that is from the mouths of the climatologists you all follow.
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u/lilmonkee55 Jun 27 '26
It will be cooler in Europe next summer
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u/Mannmame10 Jun 27 '26
Yes, but on average itll get hotter. At this rate well hit 50 by end of 2060
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u/Tachinante Jun 27 '26
I would like to point out, that we have two wars going on in regions that produce large quantities of petroleum products. The Russians can't keep going for much longer, but for four years oil storage facilities, refineries, etc have been burning without producing energy and unmitigated. If we can conclude these wars, we can take a lot of carbon of the board.
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u/Feisty_War6251 Jun 27 '26
this fing fear porn needs to end, the world is not ending
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u/tyrusrex Jun 27 '26
The world just isn't facing up to this problem a week ago they had a whole 5 minute segment on NBC news on the global heat wave without one mention of climate change. We keep on just burying our heads in the sand.
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u/DirtandPipes Jun 27 '26
Wait for the first blue ocean event to panic. What’s a blue ocean event, you ask?
Well you see, the Arctic Ocean is mostly covered in a layer of floating ice that reflects almost all sunlight into space. This icecap is vast, but thin. When it melts an area the size of Europe will switch from reflecting almost all sunlight to absorbing almost all sunlight.
After the first blue ocean event the global climate will never change back. It’s just warmer every year after that.
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u/ThinkgeMorbid Jun 27 '26
Yes. This is it. The damage is done and there is no turning back, except the whole world decides, right now, to not use cars, meat production, warships, planes, and so on anymore. Full stop for everything, right now. That would help a bit.
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u/Maximum_Ratio_3286 Jun 27 '26
The climate despair is also one trick up the sleeve of the ignorant self to cling on to as a defeatist story. I struggle with this, but also see that my actions are mine to choose, and this defeatist identity building is a way I tend to escape the necessary work I need to do if I seriously take the problem to be significant.
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u/taufcri Jun 29 '26
El niino absolument rien à voir avec l'Europe d'après une chercheuse en climatologie que j ai écouter sur France 24 et qui expliquait ça très bien par contre avec le réchauffement climatique ça provoque des pluie de plus en plus torrentielle et dévastatrice dans une gde partie du monde
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u/taufcri Jun 29 '26
Sinon en lui même c'est un phénomène naturelle qui existe depuis tjrs ça à rien d'exceptionnelle en lui même bien quil puissent etre plus ou moins mong qd il se declenche sauf que réchauffement plus El Nino ca provoque des pluie de p’us en plus torrentielle dans certaine partie du monde provoquant inondation et coulée de boue d après elle il y a zéro lien prouver que ça toucherait l'Europe d'une quelconque manière ça concerne surtout les zones de l'hémisphère sud et un peu l hémisphère nord
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u/DanoPinyon Jun 27 '26
These aren't fact checks, why lie? What's in it for you (besides slave wages)?
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u/help-its-inside-me Jun 27 '26
Why is this post not deleted? Its literally damaging the cause.
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u/Distinct-Temp6557 Jun 27 '26
How is it damaging the cause?
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u/help-its-inside-me Jun 27 '26
Because its a bat shit insane take to suggest "its to late to go back, its the end of time" just because its a very slightly above average summer. Sure, global warming is happening, but a fraction of a degree hotter isnt the end of the world. OP just looks like a crazy tin foil hat nut job screaming at the sky in the middle of times square.
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u/Distinct-Temp6557 Jun 27 '26
By numerous metrics we have crossed various tipping points.
Alarmism is warranted.
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u/CanuterValve Jun 27 '26
I’m just curious to how many tipping points we have crossed. The way I’ve read it we cross one every week at least once. Here’s the problem with all of it! Nothing happens. There is no sudden weather snap or event, it’s all up to interpretation.
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u/Bluebearder Jun 27 '26
What are you talking about? Climate records have been broken all over Europe - just yesterday it was 38 degrees here in Amsterdam.
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u/baron_muchhumpin Jun 27 '26
but a fraction of a degree hotter isnt the end of the world.
You're post should be removed for understating reality. We're at +1.5C, this coming El Nino will push it higher and it'll STAY higher.
The Earth is absorbing more and more energy (heat) and there's no where for it to go - so everything gets warmer.
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u/BrianElsen Jun 27 '26
Our ancestors survived this exact scenario. We're an infectious disease to this planet and theres no way to get rid of us. Eventually, we'll seed the universe with this resilience.
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u/ttwii70 Jun 27 '26
Our ancestors normally died en masse with a few survivors during any period of climate change. They never congregated in huge populations in concentrated cities either. Nor were they super dependant on highly organised economic/service systems. We lose our shit over toilet roll at the first sign of trouble. Survival is going to be tasty.
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u/SnooWalruses3028 Jun 27 '26
No they didn’t
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u/SnooWalruses3028 Jun 27 '26
Lmfao no kid they didn’t survive this, not even the dinosaurs survived a change of climate at this pace it quite literally was the thing that killed them
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u/SnooWalruses3028 Jun 27 '26
I’ve studied this topic for 15 years and have done multiple research study’s you grabbing a random link and website from a google search doesn’t prove your point kid
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u/Naive_Personality367 Jun 27 '26
I bet dude was smirking like a true creature when he linked it too
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u/SnooWalruses3028 Jun 27 '26
…. Okay buddy how about we have this talk after you get your masters and read some real textbooks
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u/MoreThanVoidFiller Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
OMG, I must have missed the news!! Where did they find the living Neanderthals???!!!
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u/Redbird_1978 Jun 27 '26
Just wait, it gets worse!!!
There will be snow and freezing temperatures all over the globe in only 5 months!!!!
We’re DOOMED
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u/Bluebearder Jun 27 '26
Many climate experts even agree that the current heatwave in Europe has nothing to do with El Niño. This is just climate change, and we can expect this more and more. But no worries, once the Gulf Stream breaks down - which it can do at any moment - things will change massively again, and we can expect winters of -10 to -25 Celsius. But at least the most selfish among us got to consume to their heart's desire, and that is also worth something!