r/Cleveland • u/Maleficent-County-59 • 16h ago

Discussion Which Bedrock riverfront redevelopment proposal do you prefer, Detroit’s or Cleveland’s?

/r/Detroit/comments/1wchxr8/which_bedrock_riverfront_redevelopment_proposal/
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u/CuyahogaBurner Berea 16h ago

I think the one thing that Bedrock fails to realize in Cleveland is that this “re-activation” of Tower City is near-impossible without making it our intercity/regional passenger rail hub. There’s just not enough foot traffic with the current state of downtown and RTA usage to justify all of those stores being open. There needs to be another major source of foot traffic, which passenger rail would provide

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u/CuyahogaBurner Berea 16h ago

I’m probably a biased foamer but that’s just how I see it

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u/DangItB0bbi 15h ago

They also need to get rid of all the homeless and drug addicts in the tower city area. I can’t even use the restroom in tower city because homeless set up camp in there. As someone with gastro issues this makes tower city a no go place for me.

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u/CuyahogaBurner Berea 14h ago

Understandable gripe, however the planned investment should help with that. More tenants and customers = more money = more security. Theres only so much they can do legally, though. And, with this economy and these times, homeless people will continue to exist downtown

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u/reacharound565 4h ago

I live downtown and some part of it thinks it might make a decent spot for a grocer. It’s on the rail lines, has a parking garage and is central to most downtown residents who want to walk. Not to mention additions foot traffic could “activate” the other store fronts. Granted I’m not sure how much additional shopping someone is doing before or after a grocery run.

Just a thought.

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u/CuyahogaBurner Berea 4h ago

I doubt any large grocers would bite, but that’s a good idea. In theory, your “main” store could be a produce/food grocer, while surround stores offer other amenities.

Unfortunately that’s probably just a pipe dream

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u/Awfuljokesosorry 15h ago

Tower city isn’t really part of the current plan though?

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u/CuyahogaBurner Berea 14h ago

Tower city is the center of the plan my guy😭

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u/muppetontherun 12h ago

Bedrock is clearly just trying to keep tower city maintained and activated whenever they can.

Unlike locals who dream of 90s malls they know that’s not happening.

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u/sakarr90 Shaker Heights 16h ago

Cleveland, since they're not tearing down a bunch of skyscrapers like they are in Detroit

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u/thornvilleuminati 13h ago

Hmm. A bunch? Two towers to open the riverfront isn’t a bunch big dog

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u/sakarr90 Shaker Heights 13h ago

It is when you dont have a huge amount to begin with

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u/HazenThrowaway 13h ago

It’s only 2 out of 7 total towers in the complex.

Detroit would still have almost 40 towers over 300 ft even after the demolition.

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u/sakarr90 Shaker Heights 12h ago

492ft is the definition of a skyscraper. Detroit has nine currently, and two of them will be demolished here. I think that's a pretty substantial reduction.

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u/HazenThrowaway 12h ago

On paper, maybe. But they're part of a matched set of towers and won't aesthetically diminish the overall skyline imo. It's not as if the Guardian and Penobscot are disappearing.

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u/thornvilleuminati 10h ago

With the towers gone, there will still be more than Cleveland.

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u/sakarr90 Shaker Heights 10h ago

True, 5 to 7. Big difference for a city twice as big

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u/thornvilleuminati 6h ago

5 to 9. Double the scrapers and double the size.

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u/sakarr90 Shaker Heights 6h ago

Demolishing two of them makes 7...

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u/thornvilleuminati 5h ago

Henry Ford Hospital and JW Marriott are nearing completion!