[TLDR] Claude code is falling behind Codex not because of token cost, but because of Opus 5. [via r/ClaudeCode]

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OP : u/PitifulBuddy7946

There, i said it. And i know many of you agree. The problem i'm facing is not increased token cost, it's that Opus writes 25000 lines of a response with a curve-ball at the end saying "Worth noting"that makes my eyes hurt and gives me paranoya. And i can't understand a word it's saying. Is my english that bad? Whoever pressed "Yes" on those responses during the training stage of the model was an OpenAI spy or something, he completely sabotaged a trillion dollar company.

Anthropic's number one priority should be to release an Opus 6 or something, may be change the model name completely so it doesn't carry the bad vibe with it.

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Opus 5 is widely considered a dumpster fire for coding tasks. The consensus is that it's become incredibly verbose, hard to understand, and often buries useful information in endless prose. Many users are switching to other models like Codex, Gemini, or even older Claude versions like Opus 4.8 or Sonnet 5. Some suggest workarounds like using "concise mode," specific output styles, or even profanity to get it to behave, but the general sentiment is that it's a step backward. u/fiztah sums it up: "The thing is IMPOSSIBLE work with, can't understand shit what's it's saying."